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    How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

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    Asaalamu alaikum everybody,

    A few days ago a non-Muslim friend of mine asked me to explain Eid ul-Adha to her. I tried my best, but she was deeply upset by the idea of sacrificing an animal. I explained the story behind it, but she was greatly disgusted. She called it "barbaric and inhumane." Naturally, I am disappointed about this and I do not want her to see Islam as a barbaric religion. How can I explain this so that she will understand better?

    Jazak Allah Khairan for your help

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    i heard the popular game of spian is bull fighting...dont its seems to be more cruel that u killed a bull in that cruel way, just for the sake of ur enjoyment. but here is a diffrent case, we sacrifice it quickly with very sharp knife so that its pain less and its just for the sake of our GOD. and actually the lessen is we can sacrifice everything for our GOD.
    scholar had wrote too many explantaion and benefits behind this commadment. eg esp in poor countries, poor ppl get some meat to eat bcz one who sacrifice give 1/3 to poors. poor farmers get some money by seeling their animals and etc etc.
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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Check out the following website: I can't type out the address (insufficient .... bla bla bla...) HOwever her eis it

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Jazak Allah Khairan I think we will have to agree to disagree-- I attempted to explain to her that the animal doesn't feel any pain, but she still didn't understand. I believe that she associates sacrificing an animal with pagan-type rituals, but I don't see how I can change her perception at this point.

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Is your friend a complete vegan? Everything is Barbaric from someone's stand point, we're not put on earth to cater to everyone's whims. If she is a complete vegan and it reflects on the products she uses, the shoes she straps on and everything in between up to and including the drugs she uses then kudos to her we wish her more super human powers. Allah swt has blessed us with many things and one of those is dominion over the animals. Not for cruelty or hunting to mount on the walls. But to eat, drink, dress ourselves, and ride. They fulfill their duties and we fulfill ours..

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Well, atleast whatever we sacrifice (which isn't even a mandate) the meat is mainly spread to those poor people around the world. Your friend rather they just starve of hunger or something?

    Anyways show her this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sacrifice#Islam

    Let her see what Christians/Jews/Hindu's see as "Sacrificing" compared to Islam.
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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ View Post
    Is your friend a complete vegan?
    Salaam,

    She is a strict vegetarian. However, I agree with you completely and I will be sure to bring up those points with her. Jazak Allah Khairan to everybody for your answers.

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_A_Girl13 View Post
    Salaam,

    She is a strict vegetarian.

    Peace

    Might be a brahmin . Not too long ago, We had a brahmin member in the forum by the name "vegetarian Soul"and was raising several threads about cruelty to animals and slaughterhouses until we silenced him by posting the below video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KtmbonxBv8
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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Airforce View Post
    Might be a brahmin . Not too long ago, We had a brahmin member in the forum by the name "vegetarian Soul"and was raising several threads about cruelty to animals and slaughterhouses until we silenced him by posting the below video
    Salaam,

    She doesn't really follow any specific religion. You might say she's agnostic.

    Peace

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_A_Girl13 View Post
    Asaalamu alaikum everybody,

    A few days ago a non-Muslim friend of mine asked me to explain Eid ul-Adha to her. I tried my best, but she was deeply upset by the idea of sacrificing an animal. I explained the story behind it, but she was greatly disgusted. She called it "barbaric and inhumane." Naturally, I am disappointed about this and I do not want her to see Islam as a barbaric religion. How can I explain this so that she will understand better?

    Jazak Allah Khairan for your help

    Peace and blessings be with you all

    Well she can be upset but end of the day its better than shooting and animal, as that causes more pain...( I think)

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    She may be unaware that before any of these recent methods, that's how people killed an animal, also in Islam we are forbidden to purposefully eat blood, and the sacrifice is the cleanest way to ensure maximum blood drainage, when they shoot or electrocute those things -all the blood remains.
    I myself have sacrificed cows, goats and chickens, and I have seen with my own eyes how much blood comes out, a cow releases at least a full bucket of blood,
    And also, if you behead the whole thing, the brain doesn't instruct the heart to pump out blood as the nervous system is disconnected.
    Blood is a very harmful item to consume, ask your doctor

    Secondly explain to her that plants and vegetables feel pain and also weep.
    And ask her if she thinks like that she should not to walk in the park as the grass feels pain and she does it for fun, not even for food.

    I don't know of anywhere where you'll get a more in-depth explanation than the following:





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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Salam alaikkum

    I agree with all and Brother tigerkhan made a good points, sacrificing is for the benefits of hangry people, to feed them etc

    Out of topic: I REALLY LIKE DR ZAKIR NAIK, Brother Ahmed Deedat trained him and inspired him too.. Subhannallah May Allah bless them and create many more of them.
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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    I would be interested to hear if a vegetarian, walked past a meat dish, and the smell of the food aroused their taste buds.

    Do they have to fight their natural urge.or just be naturally put off.

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    to be honest i dont think she'll ever understand...she doesnt get they story..all she hears that u slaughter the animals

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    I explained Eid to my stepmom yesterday, and instead of just saying "oh, it's to sacrifice an animal", I first explained to her the historical context with the story of Ibrahim (PBUH) and Ismail and then I also explained that we are required to give a certain portion to feed the poor. I think those two points are more important that the act of sacrificing itself.

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    If she is so logical and "disgust" by the idea of Qurbani then ask her a simple question. About 1 billion animals killed each day by KFC, McDonalds, Burger King etc... to feed the rich and make money. And NO ONE bats an eye? Why? Does that disgust that ever? And does she hate christians (and others) for doing such cruel business. I bet NO.

    Whereas during Eid, Muslims sacrifice them to feed the poor for FREE, yes FREE and everyone loses their mind. Wake up people. How long you want to keep explaining obvious things. She does not qualify to say words like "cruel or disgust" unless she doing something about what i mentioned above.

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    And you said she is a strict veg... i wonder if she also never wear or use any accessory of leather, etc... sigh....

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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_A_Girl13 View Post
    Asaalamu alaikum everybody,

    A few days ago a non-Muslim friend of mine asked me to explain Eid ul-Adha to her. I tried my best, but she was deeply upset by the idea of sacrificing an animal. I explained the story behind it, but she was greatly disgusted. She called it "barbaric and inhumane." Naturally, I am disappointed about this and I do not want her to see Islam as a barbaric religion. How can I explain this so that she will understand better?

    Jazak Allah Khairan for your help

    Peace and blessings be with you all
    Well sister, if she's a strict vegetarian, then I believe she is also a Hindu or Buddhist or similar, Aryan religion follower most probably.

    If she is a Hindu, do tell her that animal sacrifice, specially a cow, or any animal, is not banned in Hinduism. It was taken from the other Aryan religions and added into Hinduism recently.

    The Vedas, highest scripture of Hinduism doesn't speak anything about animal slaughtering being wrong.

    Now the reason why she is a vegetarian and dislikes slaughtering of animals, it is because... ->

    Hindu scholars have a philosophy or they believe in something called Samskara. They believe that every human being, aka, every soul, after they die, they are reborn. If you do good in this life, then you are reborn to a higher level, if bad, then lower level. Human being is the highest level and you are born as a human being 7 times. So if you do wrong, you may sometimes be born as a cockroach, sometimes a rat, sometimes a cat, a dog, a monkey, a donkey, a human being, anything, any living being.
    The reason why they believe it is because, Hindu scholars, they weren't able to answer, why are some people born poor, why some rich, some sick, some with congenital heart disease, and so on. So they made a theory, they themselves discovered, they say, that because you did a mistake in your previous life, so you are born sick, poor, handicapped. And like I said, you do wrong, you become a lower animal, like a cockroach, a cat, a dog or something similar.
    But I find a major flaw in this logic.
    Is the human population increasing or decreasing?
    But natural increasing.
    Is the crime rate increasing or decreasing? It's increasing.
    So the theory says, if more bad things happen, then less human beings, aka, more sins, less humans, more humans, less sin, but this is not the case. It's totally opposite .

    Tell her this.

    Secondly, they talk about universal brotherhood. Like I said, everything is your brother, a cat, a dog, a lion, all, every living creature is your brother.

    If you ask a doctor, he will tell you, if this is the case, then we human beings are killing millions of our brother every second. You know how? When you breathe, in your nostrils, there are cilia which blocks the germs and kills them, and helps you stay alive. So your friend, if she hates killing living things, ask her, why does she kill millions of her brothers to stay alive every second? .

    Now last point, the way slaughtering is done in Islam, the animal doesn't feel pain at all. The swift cutting of the vessels of the neck disconnects flow of blood to the body and the receptors responsible for pain, they stop working and the animal doesn't feel pain. The animal jumps, whirls, and struggles, not because of pain, but because of the muscles of its body starving of oxygen.
    If you understand advanced biology sister, you will come to know, that whenever there is oxygen deficiency to any part of the body, the aerobic respiration changes to anaerobic respiration. When anaerobic respiration, in lack of oxygen takes place, then many reactions such as actin-myosin, tropomyosin, and many reactions take place which stretches and relaxes the muscles. Hence the animal seems like it's struggling in pain, but that's not at all the case.

    I hope this mini lecture helps . God bless.
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    PS - Didn't know this was such an old post, by I hope it helps anyone .
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    Re: How to explain Eid ul-Adha to a non-Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by noorseeker View Post
    Do they have to fight their natural urge.or just be naturally put off.
    Ideological Veganism is Marxist ideology applied to vegetarianism. The main founder of this branch is a Jewish Marxist named Singer. This is were the nonsense concepts of Animal Liberation which is the core of Ideological Veganism which is the granting of universal suffrage to animals and granting them Human rights status based on Animals being People too, come from. This is the application of the abnormal and radical egalitarian base of Marxist ideology. Which is just the mythological premise of Christianity without the supernaturalism. From here with Veganism you get the nonsense like Speciesism, Carnism and such. Its the conflict theory of Marxism applied to Vegetarianism.

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