Hindi vs Urdu

format_quote Originally Posted by ridaa_islam

askm sis, me too indian

lol, sorry i don't know many members on here

anyway thanks for the replies every1

is it true that before partition urdu was spoken no where within the borders of present day pakistan?

format_quote Originally Posted by Goku

And Urdu script is also better.

i disagree. i am told that when you read a word in devanagari script you know exactly what it sounds like. (i can't read devanagari) also the arabic script is not all that well suited to an indo-european language.

is it true that before partition urdu was spoken no where within the borders of present day pakistan?

no its not...
i think spoken urdu and hindi are one and the same thing..just with a difference of few words..
the muslims used to write in farsi or maybe arabic script and hindus write it in the devangiri script..thats the basic difference...so thats y urdu is in pak and hindi in india..

wassalam

you probably don't realise it because you've heard urdu all your lives. i am teaching myself and the only urdu i generally get to hear is in music. so if i look at an urdu word, i can't tell for sure how to say it - for example, what the vowels are. i have some audio learning cassettes and they have helped, but often when i encounter a new word, i have no idea what it should sound like. i've heard that devanegari is very specific, that you know exactly how to say the word by looking at it.
i agree wholeheartedly - urdu is a beautiful language. (which is why i'm trying to learn it). i have also read that since partition urdu and hindi are gradually becoming different.
i have another question - the specific version of the arabic script that is used in pakistan - where did it originate? is it used in any other country besides pakistan and india? the farsi i've seen doesn't look like that (but i've only seen it on the web). i think it looks cool, but i have a hard time reading it sometimes, compared to the script used by bbc urdu for example.
hmmm. so it's not true that urdu is not native to the land that is now pakistan? the main languages would've been punjabi, pashto, baluchi sindhi...and urdu? what part of pakistan was urdu native to?
well, i guess that's enough questions! thanks.

The history of Urdu/Hindi

Urdu/Hindi belong to the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European family of languages.

'Urdu' comes from the Persian zaban-e-urdu-e-mu'alla (language of the imperial court), a gloss which gives important clues to its history. Originally it was one of the languages spoken in the Hindi region of India. During the sixteenth century, however, large areas of India fell under the rule of Muslims whose language and culture were predominantly Persian. While the structure of Urdu remained essentially Indian, the vocabulary was greatly influenced by Persian. Urdu spread all over India through administrative structures, army encampments and bazaars.

The linguistic status of Urdu/Hindi has been the subject of fierce debate. Some argue that they be treated as the same language; others that they should be treated separately on the grounds of differences in vocabulary and word order.

source: BBC

and if u can read urdu then here's one more link..has got more detail:
http://www.urdupoint.com/adab/histor...-tareekh.shtml

thanks, sister, for the info and the link!

Asalam u Alikum
app subh nay bilkul teekh khaha lakin shayad app bhol gay kay urdu aik lashkari(means many language) zaban hay mutlab yeh kah urdu buhat see Zabano ka murakab(mixture) hay iss zaban main app ko arabic, persion, sanskirat kay alfaaz kafi miqdar main milain gay yah aik waja hay kay app urdu main kafi aur zabanoo kay alfaz bhi istimal karlaitain hain
yeh aik bardee khubee hay urdu ki
wasay urdu main ju shaiyri hoti hay us ka jawab nahi
Walikum as Salam