Ya Rasool Allaah Madad ka Aqeedah

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format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

No wonder I used to see letters snuck in through the grill surrounding his grave, does he (pbuh) read them himself or does a secretary read them for him? (Now that the volume is higher).

May Allah s.w.t grant you adab of prophet s.a.w. Ameen

format_quote Originally Posted by azc

May Allah s.w.t grant you adab of prophet s.a.w. Ameen

Equating him with God is be-adab, ulloo, and dushmanee, you know that Prophets who got equated with Allah get pulled up on the day of judgement for questioning too? And I was a watcher over them when I dwelt amongst them, when You took me up YOU was the watcher!

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

Equating him with God is be-adab, ulloo, and dushmanee, you know that Prophets who got equated with Allah get pulled up on the day of judgement for questioning too? And I was a watcher over them when I dwelt amongst them, when You took me up YOU was the watcher!

but what you did ? even the worst Muslim can't dare to mock at RasulAllah s.a.w.

The person claiming that it was ok to call on a dead messenger was mocking the messenger of Allah, the people throwing letters in the grill fence of a grave were mocking the messenger of Allah. I was getting them to probe their own intelligence with logic.





“Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: 'You will indeed follow the ways of those before you, hand span by hand span, and an arms length after another. Even if they enter into a lizard’s hole, you will follow them.’
We (the Sahaba) asked, ‘Is it the Jews and the Christians?’
He replied, ‘Who else!’”

[Bukhari]

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

The person claiming that it was ok to call on a dead messenger was mocking the messenger of Allah, the people throwing letters in the grill fence of a grave were mocking the messenger of Allah. I was getting them to probe their own intelligence with logic. “Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: 'You will indeed follow the ways of those before you, hand span by hand span, and an arms length after another. Even if they enter into a lizard’s hole, you will follow them.’ We (the Sahaba) asked, ‘Is it the Jews and the Christians?’ He replied, ‘Who else!’” [Bukhari]

and the Jews highly haughty and ignorant, were be-adab as well.

I think nobody on IB believe that we should seek help from prophet s.a.w

format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Malik

Yes but the only thing he tell us about us that our salat upon him will be Displays to him But more than this are just new things it wasnt at the time of sahabah or tabiin So .. we can't say things which wasnt befor us And if we do so it will change our deen Sorry for my bad English

several incidents other than paying salam are recorded in books by reliable and famous scholars, can't be denied.

Do you know several incidents of sahaba ikram ra, tabi'in rh and other pious people are found in books. Do you see shirk in them...?

format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Malik

No aouthou billah from saying this We are a follower to them and seekers of Truth We learn and try to do our best And at the end of the day we all ask Allah's guidanceAnd as Allah said : And whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.I don't want to say that Sufism is wrongMay Allah guide us We all here to learn ... Jazak lahu khayran

I think you should believe in this fact that they had better abilities than us to distinguish between haq and batil. We can't imagine of them being involved in shirk, if believed otherwise foundations of Islam will be shattered.

أخبرنا أبو نصر بن قتادة، وأبو بكر الفارسي قالا: حدثنا أبو عمر بن مطر، حدثنا إبراهيم بن علي الذهلي، حدثنا يحيى بن يحيى، حدثنا أبو معاوية، عن الأعمش، عن أبي صالح، عن مالك قال: أصاب الناس قحط في زمن عمر بن الخطاب، فجاء رجل إلى قبر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم. فقال: يا رسول الله استسق الله لأمتك فإنهم قد هلكوا. فأتاه رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في المنام فقال: إيت عمر، فأقرئه مني السلام، وأخبرهم أنه مسقون، وقل له عليك بالكيس الكيس. فأتى الرجل فأخبر عمر، فقال: يا رب ما آلوا إلا ما عجزت عنه.وهذا إسناد صحيح.Malik ad-Dar i.e. treasurer of Umar (RA) relates: The people were gripped by famine during the tenure of Umar (Ibn-ul-Khattab). Then a man walked up to the grave of Prophet and said: O Messenger of Allah! ask for rain from Allah for your Ummah who is in dire straits. Then he saw the Prophet (SAW) in dream. The Prophet (SAW) said to him, Go over to Umar, give him my regards and tell him that the rain will come to you. And tell Umar that he should be on his toes, he should be on his toes (he should remain alert). He went over to see Umar and passed on to him the tidings. On hearing this, Umar broke into a spurt of crying. He said, O Allah, I exert myself to the full until I am completely exhausted.References►Al-Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah Volume 011, Page No. 118, Hadith Number 32538This Hadith is authenticated as **Sahih** by►Imam Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah Wan Nihayah Volume No. 5, Page No. 167►Imam Qastallani in al-Mawahib-ul-laduniyyah (4:276)► Ibn-e-Taymiya in Fi-Iqtida-as-Sirat-il-Mustaqim (Vol.1, Page 373) Imam Ibn Hajr al Asqalani in "Fath ul Bari" وروى ابن أبي شيبة بإسناد صحيح من رواية أبي صالح السمان عن مالك الداري - وكان خازن عمر - قال " أصاب الناس قحط في زمن عمر فجاء رجل إلى قبر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال: يا رسول الله استسق لأمتك فإنهم قد هلكوا، فأتى الرجل في المنام فقيل له: ائت عمر " الحديث.وقد روى سيف في الفتوح أن الذي رأى المنام المذكور هو بلال بن الحارث المزني أحد الصحابة،وظهر بهذا كله مناسبة الترجمة لأصل هذه القصة أيضا والله الموفق Ibn Abu Shaybah transmitted it with a "SOUND CHAIN OF TRANSMISSION" the narration from Abi Salih as Samaan from Malik al Dar the treasurer of Umar (ra) that : The people were gripped by famine during the tenure of 'Umar (Ibn al-Khattab). Then a man walked up to the Prophet's grave and said, "O Messenger of Allah, please ask for rain from Allah for your Ummah who is in dire straits." Then he saw the Prophet (SAW) in dream… till the end of hadith. Sayf narrates in his Fatuh, the one who saw the dream was Bilal bin Harith al Mazni who was one of the sahaba. [Fath ul Bari : Volume No.2, Page No. 495]

format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Malik

I don't say this ... but I said that they didn't do so And as long as we are followers to them we should do what they did without adding in our religionBut I mention shih Hadith and a verse from the Quran You aren't live with the strange shouyoukh of sufism how much things are adding to the religion but the general sufis don't know about it I just asked you to be careful ... but we all Muslims alhamdulillah ... may Allah accept the good and forgive our mistakes

I'm not adhered to any sufi shaykh though but I think tasawwuf is not untouchable, however, some sufis are deviants and propagate their wrong ideology but all shuyookh are not wrong. Sadly, we are indifferent to purification of innerself.

format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Malik

Alhamdulillah May Allah help you and keep us in the best wayWe all need to purify our innerselves May he accept our good deeds and forgive our mistakes Amen !

AmeenI advise you to read surah al shams

format_quote Originally Posted by azc

this is how they prove their aqida: https://makashfa.wordpress.com/2012/...an-and-hadith/

These verses of surah Al-Nisaa (An-Nisaa) were revealed when umar rAa killed a Munaafiq because the munaafiq didn't accept the Judgment passed by Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. He had dispute with a jew on land etc. So the two went to Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam because the jew was right and he wanted the Judgment by the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. The Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam heard the story and decided the case in favor of the Jew. When they came out, the munaafiq refused to accept the judgment of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam and insisted to go to Umar rAa. Umar rAa, after listening to the story, decided the case in favor of the Jew because the Jew was true in his statement. Then right there the Jew said to the munaafiq, "didn't I tell you that Umar's decision shall be the same as that of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam?"


Umar rAa, on hearing this asked, "did you go to Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam before me?" The Jew said, "yes" and then he told him the story. Umar rAa advised them to wait there and he entered his house, and returned with a sword. He then killed the munaafiq right there and then!!!


After that the relatives of the munaafiq went to Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam and complained against Umar rAa that he killed a mo'min!!! Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam became upset on that action of Umar rAa that why he killed a mo'min!!! Allah Azza wa Jall revealed these verses and clearly informed Him and us all that they cannot be believers until they take Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam to be their Judge and then accept His decision with clear/ open heart/mind. I am giving the translation of those verses as follows:


(4:60) (O Messenger!) Have you not seen those who claim to believe in the Book which has been revealed to you and in the Books revealed before you, and yet desire to submit their disputes to the judgement of taghut (the Satanic authorities who decide independently of the Law of Allah), whereas they had been asked to reject it.⁹¹ And Satan seeks to make them drift far away from the right way.



(4:61) When they are told: 'Come to that which Allah has revealed, and come to the Messenger', you will notice the hypocrites turning away from you in aversion.⁹²


(4:62) But what happens when some misfortune visits them because of their own misdeeds? Then, they come to you swearing by Allah,⁹³ saying: 'We wanted nothing but to do good and to bring about conciliation (between the two parties)'.



(4:63) As for them, Allah knows what is in their hearts. Leave them alone, admonish them, and say to them penetrating words about themselves.


(4:64) (And tell them that) We never sent a Messenger but that he should be obeyed by the leave of Allah.⁹⁴ If whenever they wronged themselves they had come to you praying to Allah for forgiveness, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would indeed have found Allah All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.



(4:65) But no, by your Lord, they cannot become true believers until they seek your arbitration in all matters on which they disagree among themselves, and then find not the least vexation in their hearts over what you have decided, and accept it in willing submission.⁹⁵

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Now you all can see the context of the verses. They came down for us to follow the law and judgment given by Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. These verses have no connection with the false story given in the link in the previous post!! The readers should note the following points:


Dreams cannot be used as evidence for Shariyah,

The statement given in the link is completely against the teachings of the Quraan and Sunnah,


When the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam was alive, the sahaabah requested Him to pray for them. But after His death, He is not present everywhere listening to our du'aa. It is only Allah Ta'aala WHO is present everywhere and hears and answers our du'aa. We can pray to Allah to give us the intercession of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam on the Day of Judgment.