It is indeed. And it can be very fruitful if it stays in this civil and respectful tone. :)
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It is indeed. And it can be very fruitful if it stays in this civil and respectful tone. :)
Many Zionist groups would be labeled as solely political, but there are many that are soley Religous as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
My name is Yoshiyahu - is Yoshimutu the arabic spelling of my name?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hash
The point I am making is that you are stereotyping all Zionists as murderers just as many Southern Baptists have stereotyped all Muslims as such. Both disregard the fact that there are many Muslims and Zionists who have no wish for bloodshed.
Jews can similarly point to the Mizrahi & Sephardic Jews who had the same done to them after the creation of Israel, thus causing their immigration to Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hash
I would say I am a centrist when it comes to Zionism, with some right-wing tendencies. I do support a permanent Jewish presence in Israel - especially for those Jews who fled to Israel after their lives where endangered in their home countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
I don't support a 100% complete return of the Jewish people to Israel, because that would end in another exile. (One of the prophecies is that the Messiah will gather all Jews to Israel, and he can't do that if all the Jews are already there)
Hi Hash,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hash
Which parts do you agree with?
I think the majority of Christians who support Zionism do so for no other reason then it is seen as a way of helping Jews and Israel. The return of Christ is not being forced in this manner, as some are trying to imply.Quote:
where Zionism is a christian evangelical movement for their own goals rather than simply supporting Jews and Israel.
What you think is irrelevent. This is the reason that pastors have been pushing on their followers since the beginning of Israel's existance. Only in recent times (the last 3 or 4 years) have they begun to not emphisize apocolypse as the reason for their support of Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinner
No, SpaceFalcon is bringing up a valid point, that Christians who support Israel have ulterior motives.
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But why did SpaceFalcon say 'Sinner's' opinion is irrelevant? https://www.islamicboard.com/images/.../brother-1.gif
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If I say "I think President Bush is black" Does that make it relavent? No, so it's irrelevent. What sinner brought forth was his opinion on evangelical christian motives toward Israel. His opinion is contrary to the fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osman
Hash, maybe you should read what sinner said first.
Sinner said Christians support Israel out of genuine concern for the Jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinner
Some Christians have ulterior Motives. Some do not.
It's just like any other political issue.