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  • stay in the middle east, it's the right place

    8 30.77%
  • be created in Northern America : USA / Canada

    3 11.54%
  • be created in Southern America

    2 7.69%
  • in a scandinavian country

    1 3.85%
  • in an Asian country

    0 0%
  • in Australia

    0 0%
  • No, Jews don't need a specific country. Israel shouldn't exist

    12 46.15%
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    Question If Israel were not in the middle east ?

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    The zionist country of Israel is the responsible for at least 50% of the wars and conflicts in the middle east. Don't you think the world would be better if Israel were not found in the middle east ?

    Should the country of Israel :

    1) stay in the middle east ?
    2) be created in Northern America : USA / Canada ?
    3) be created in Southern America ?
    4) in a scandinavian country ?
    5) in an Asian country ?
    6) in Australia ?
    7) No, Jews don't need a specific country. Israel shouldn't exist ?

    Make a vote !
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?


    "O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]

    يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِۦ آل عِمرَان - 102




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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    It should stay in the Middle East. There's no sacred Jewish sites, to my knowledge, outside of the current borders of Israel. There is also no other land so steeped in Jewish history.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Whereeva it is....it will...betray the one who saved her.

    part of it in US and part of it in UK...... so that these two realise how gud israel is.

    ^^^ no such option to vote.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Option 7 is the closest answer .
    Last edited by Muezzin; 05-21-2010 at 07:49 PM. Reason: When answering a poll, it is best not to try and start a fight
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    I thought when they were first 'assembling' they had two choices between Palestine and Argentina .. I am not sure if I remember correctly..
    they are meats to be in Palestine for a promised day.. I mean certainly it is a major sign of the end..
    one sometimes wonders if they assembled there to fulfill the sign knowingly or unknowingly .. it is a great mystery but there is no mystery about this:

    [Pickthal 17:4] And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: Ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.
    [Pickthal 17:5] So when the time for the first of the two came, We roused against you slaves of Ours of great might who ravaged (your) country, and it was a threat performed.
    [Pickthal 17:6] Then we gave you once again your turn against them, and We aided you with wealth and children and made you more in soldiery.
    [Pickthal 17:7] (Saying): If ye do good, ye do good for your own souls, and if ye do evil, it is for them (in like manner). So, when the time for the second (of the judgments) came (We roused against you others of Our slaves) to ravage you, and to enter the Temple even as they entered it the first time, and to lay waste all that they conquered with an utter wasting.


    [Pickthal 17:104] And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.



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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul-Raouf View Post
    Whereeva it is....it will...betray the one who saved her.

    part of it in US and part of it in UK...... so that these two realise how gud israel is.

    ^^^ no such option to vote.
    I agree with you.. they should put them in the uk because they're the reason the Zionist are in Palastain right now.. and USA because they continued helping Zionist after the uk..

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Any one of these countries will not accept Israel to be implanted in their land. Why it's unallowable for palestinians to refuse this country on their soil ?
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?


    "O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]

    يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِۦ آل عِمرَان - 102




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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    i dont think she should be in existance at all
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    ...desperate for husnul-khitaam...


    please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.


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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Should be moved to another planet uninhabited by extra terrestrial and away from human civilization.

    That is the best option.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Wow, excellent sources here!

    Jewish terror, massacres, torture:

    http://radioislam.org/islam/english/....htm#terrorism

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    1. Israel should stay in the middle east.

    2. Israel is responsible to more than 50% of world problems.

    3. One has to understand what are the real reasons behind these
    problems, why they occur and what are the cause for them.

    4. These problems should be responsibly solved for the fair
    benefit of everybody.

    5. This could only be done by a responsible union of all
    of humanity dedicated for this purpose, putting all previous
    disputes aside and striving to solve the issue in a matter
    that would be fitting to Allah's will and also serve to relief
    the pain of all people suffering from the condition there
    (I am certain that these two goals do not contradict).

    6. This would only begin by the encouragement of religious
    voices through out the world (be it Muslims, Christians or the different
    branches of Judaisim)

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    By the way. In the last few years we have been used to the following figure of speech

    " Country X is doing that...."

    " Country Y is not ok..."

    From a Muslim point of view - this figure of speech is problematic as it puts us in a wrong mindset.

    A country is not a human being - a country is an institution and an organization. In particular, it has
    no will or soul of its own (although it does have properties which are dictated to it by its citizens)

    One has to remember that. In fact, what I see in most countries today is mainly confusion
    which is caused by the fact that most countries today do not have strong religious voices taking care
    that things would be done in religiously appropriate ways.

    Let me clarify. We (secular communities I mean) think that when Allah's law is not actively followed it is human or secular law that is followed.

    This is stupidity. When Allah's law is not followed directly it is followed covertly - usually through pain
    and suffering because when people are trying to go around things which cannot be walked around they have an invisible leash on their throats taking them on the right path and this leash can be very tight (even if unseen).

    This is my modest understanding on the situation of our relationship with our politcal systems.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    No, Jews don't need a specific country. Israel shouldn't exist = 50 %!!! That is disgusting...

    Last time I checked they are entitled to a land (not talking about current situation) and their own rule according to Islam. So it is completely okay for muslims and Christain to have their own countries but not Jews. I dont get it?

    50% really? Is that how much people "hate" Jews? Not all Jews are bad and there are alot that are against Israel state.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    I'm a pretty big critic of Israeli military policy, and perhaps if Israel never existed, a modern palestinian state would have been formed, but I don't have some time machine that would allow me to see that. All I know is Israel is the most progressive area of the entire Middle East, and is a paradise compared to its neighbors, for Israelis anyway, and that's where the real problem lies. They need to end their aggressive policies towards arabs and the nearby countries, they are complete bullies. But domestically, I admire them a lot.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Life_Is_Short View Post
    Should be moved to another planet uninhabited by extra terrestrial and away from human civilization.

    That is the best option.
    This is absolutely best idea. But what if possible inhabitants (?) in other planet don´t want them also to there?
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    From Occupied Palestine:

    We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.




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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    We are all wasting our time on worthless politics.

    This whole discussion can be summarized like that:

    1. The Nazis did some horrible things but they killed people - Not Jews
    (wether they were Jews or not makes no difference).

    2. The Nazis were secular people and so were most of the people they
    killed.

    3. The problem with the people that live in Israel and take the calls there
    is not that they are Jews (this is debatable) but that they are secular.

    4. The moral of this story is that secularism sucks.

    p.s I never understood what the Nazis had to do with Jews anyway? It sounds so far fetched picking up something from the bible all of a sudden - why didn't they just go against people with weird birth marks or so?
    Last edited by Gabriel Ibn Yus; 05-21-2010 at 11:23 AM.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    It should remain where it is. These are where the sacred Jewish sites are. But Gaza and the West Bank should be all Palestinian. I'm asking honestly now, are there any sacred Islamic sites in Israel other than Masjid al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock?

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boaz View Post
    It should remain where it is. These are where the sacred Jewish sites are. But Gaza and the West Bank should be all Palestinian. I'm asking honestly now, are there any sacred Islamic sites in Israel other than Masjid al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock?
    Very many of the sites Jews and Christians view as sacred are also of importance to us.

    Here it is difficult to explain. Our concept of "Sacred" for some of these sites does differ from "Sacred" in terms of Judaism and Christianity concept. We do not worship these sites or any Prophets(PBUT) but we do have high regard for all of the Prophets(PBUT) and do see importance and our history in many of the same sites Jews and Christians call "Sacred".
    If Israel were not in the middle east ?




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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    True.

    So why don't we have peace?

    This is so confusing.

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    Re: If Israel were not in the middle east ?

    We don't worship the Western Wall or the site of the temple. Think of it as our Kaaba.


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