According to the Daily Mail - so it probably isnt true - Dr. Yaakov Wise from Manchester University has looked into the family history of David Cameron the new Prime Minister and discovered he is Jewish!
David Cameron 'may be directly descended from Moses'
As the fifth cousin once removed of the Queen, David Cameron’s family tree was already looking pretty illustrious.
But Jewish scholars now believe that the Tory leader could also be a direct descendant of the biblical Hebrew prophet, Moses.
It was always known that Cameron’s great-great-grandfather was the Jewish banker Emile Levita, who came to Britain as a German immigrant in the 1850s.
And now Dr Yaakov Wise at the University of Manchester has traced Cameron’s ancestry traced right back to a famous Jewish scholar of the 16th century.
sounds like a stunt to me. so what anyway? how is it even relevant this day and age? just becuase your related to Moses (peace be upon him), it suddenly make you a person of integrity
besides it just describes his family history, not his own
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
Have you read the physical description of Moses (p)? He certainly wouldn't look like an eastern European Ashkenazi Jew..
why do people believe anything that is written? I don't know much about this guy, but anyone related to Moses now a days would probably come out of Yemen, the only purely Semitic population left and on America's crap list. If a Jew looked Yemeni he'd probably be profiled not making it to some big office in the 'free world'
p.s I love how they put charleton heston for a side by side because well he is what Moses really looked like...
Last edited by جوري; 05-14-2010 at 01:42 AM.
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the only interesting thing about this story is that just like many other politicians, cameron's family is linked with bankers. is it just a lovely coincidence that we find the political world filled with politicians who are either direct bankers, or have bankers in their family. and then you still have idiots out there saying ohhhh this is all a conspiracy mumbo jumbo.
even better, go research cameron's university life, and check out which university society he was in.
I don't care if he's jewish, what I can't stand is that he publicly announced that he's a zionist
He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. [Quran {33:43}] www.QuranicAudio.com www.Quran.com
the only interesting thing about this story is that just like many other politicians, cameron's family is linked with bankers. is it just a lovely coincidence that we find the political world filled with politicians who are either direct bankers, or have bankers in their family. and then you still have idiots out there saying ohhhh this is all a conspiracy mumbo jumbo.
even better, go research cameron's university life, and check out which university society he was in.
You mean the Bullingdon Club? Yeah, lots of Tories have been members of that club. Posh toffs.
Does it matter if he is jewish or not..Its not like he is going to make the world a better place. They are all puppets of Zionism, and the disgusting Israelis. May the curse of Allah be upon them.
Then how can you avoid the punishment, if you disbelieve, on a Day that will make the children grey-headed?
Sura Al-Muzzammil 73:17
I think that since XIX century UK is under big influence of jews, lets remember prime minister Beniamin Disraeli. In XIX century UK was influenced by jews just like USA in XX century is.
This country is dying because of a lack of men, not a lack of programs.
Oh NO He's a Jew I'm horrified haha sarcasm people, what really annoys more than having a Conservative/Liberal Government is that some Muslim are complaining about it when they DIDN'T EVEN VOTE, IF U DIDNT VOTE DONT COMPLAIN !
To my Akh's tryin to stay on their deen
It gets mean especially when u stay on the scene
And at the same try to stay out of trouble
But don't forget the blessing's in the struggle...
You gotta stay on your salats, your zakats, your Quran
I HATE the Tories & I HATE their ridiculous policies & therefore I HATE David Cameron & in addition to all the ridiculousness of their ideas and that, he is a Zionist. Blo-ody great (!) The future is looking bleak indeed.
P.S. to OP: There's a difference between between a Jew + Zionist. =)
I HATE the Tories & I HATE their ridiculous policies & therefore I HATE David Cameron & in addition to all the ridiculousness of their ideas and that, he is a Zionist. Blo-ody great (!) The future is looking bleak indeed.
P.S. to OP: There's a difference between between a Jew + Zionist. =)
To be fair though, every major political party in the UK is zionist, and so are their leaders. But zionism is not as big a deal in the UK as it is in the US- we have more problems with regard to Europe then we do a tiny nation hundreds of miles away that poses no threat to our security.
the tories haven't been in power for a week yet, and we are already hearing about tax raises on the way, and this is during an econamic crisis were many middle class and poor people are struggling to keep up, so the help they get is tax increases, oh, not to mention the huge cuts the torries plan to also bring.
Not all Prophets were Jewish. Prophet Hud , Saleh, Ismail and Shuaib (PBUH on all) were Arab Prophets
Can you provide the evidence for your claim?
During prophet Nuh pbuh or even during prophet Ismaail,there is no such thing as Arab.Arab came from prophet Ismail pbuh yet the Arab race didn't exist duirng his time.
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
This proves that brethren of Jews is the Arabs because Jews came from Isaac and Arabs came from Ismail pbuh.and the only prophet who is brethren to jews according to the above mentioend verse in Muhammad pbuh.
as you can see above,hud pbuh and saleh pbuh came before ismail pbuh whereby Arab didn't exist at all time.there were just some arab tribes such as Talmud but as whole they were not an Arab but just tribes.
All prophets originated from Yemen if we are to trace them back to Abraham whose ancestry originated there.. tribes from Yemen used to travel north to haran (Iraq) or south and settle after Yemen ceased being the Eden that it originally was .. the whole 'Jewish/christian' terminology is modern spin! jew= yehudi = man itaba3a alhouda = they who follow guidance.. 'hebrews'= al3abreen = they who crossed the sea.. they are all in fact 'Muslim' = submitters to the will of God' any modern day Arab christian or Muslim from the middle east can trace their roots back to the original Hebrews. Arabs is a term to denote Semitic folks inhabiting the Arabian peninsula it isn't a religion as inferred above.. in fact the only place left in the world of pure Semitic stock is still in Yemen, and they can all trace themselves back to the same common ancestry.
Modern day Jews and Chrisians from Europe and those converting in the 11th c in the khazar regions have nothing to do with the original Semites who became christian then later Muslim and inhabit the area collectively known as the middle east!
and Allah swt knows best
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‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary – peace be upon him) was one of the noble Prophets of Allaah, and one of the Messengers of strong will, whom Allaah sent to the Children of Israel, and taught him the Torah and Gospel, and stated that he had come to confirm what was in the Torah, i.e., to reaffirm what was said in it, except that he abrogated some of its rulings, and permitted to his followers some of what was forbidden in it.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And He (Allaah) will teach him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).
49. And will make him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allaah’s Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allaah’s Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.
50. ‘And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Tawraat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allaah and obey me’”
[Aal –‘Imraan 3:48-50]
“And in their footsteps, We sent ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), confirming the Tawraat (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Tawraat (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqoon (the pious)”
[al-Maa'idah 5:46]
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his Tafseer (2/44):
Tawraat and Injeel: The Tawraat is the Book that Allaah revealed to Moosa ibn ‘Imraan, and the Injeel is the Book that Allaah revealed to ‘Eesa (peace be upon them both). ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) followed them both. End quote.
He also (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
“confirming the Tawraat (Torah) that had come before him” means, following it, not going against what was in it, except in a few matters where he explained to the Children of Israel that concerning which they differed, as Allaah tells us that the Messiah (peace be upon him) said to the Children of Israel: “and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you”. Hence the sounder view among the scholars is that the Injeel abrogated some of the rulings of the Tawraat. End quote.
Tafseer Ibn Katheer (3/126)
Hence it is known that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) believed in the Torah which was revealed to Moosa (peace be upon him) and followed it; he did not go against it except in a few matters.
The religion of Moosa, ‘Eesa and all the Prophets was, generally speaking, Islam, which means believing in the Oneness of Allaah (Tawheed) and worshipping Him alone with no partner or associate, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Truly, the religion with Allaah is Islam”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:19]
“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
And He tells us that Nooh (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):
“and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims (i.e. those who submit to Allaah’s Will)”
[Yoonus 10:72]
And He tells us of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):
“Ibraaheem (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Haneefa (Islamic Monotheism — to worship none but Allaah Alone) and he was not of Al‑Mushrikoon”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:67]
And He tells us that Moosa (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):
“ ‘O my people! If you have believed in Allaah, then put your trust in Him if you are Muslims (those who submit to Allaah’s Will)’”
[Yoonus 10:84]
And He tells us that Yoosuf (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):
“ ‘Cause me to die as a Muslim (the one submitting to Your Will), and join me with the righteous’”
[Yoosuf 12:101]
So it cannot be said of Moosa that his religion was Judaism, rather his religion was Islam, and his followers were called Jews (al-Yahood) because they said Hidna ilayka i.e., we have repented and come back; or because they are called after Yehoodhah (Judah) the oldest of the sons of Ya’qoob (Jacob – peace be upon him). Similarly, the religion of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was Islam, not Christianity. The Christians (al-Nasaarah) are his followers who supported him (nasaruhu).
But he (peace be upon him) was a follower of the Tawraat (Torah), who followed and affirmed it, because he was one of the Children of Israel, to whom Moosa (peace be upon him) had been sent, then Allaah revealed to him the Injeel (Gospel) in which was a confirmation of what was in the Torah, as stated above.
What we have mentioned means that the religion brought by ‘Eesa was Islam, if what the questioner meant was to find out and ask about his religion.
But if he was asking about the lineage of the Messiah (peace be upon him) and the people among whom he was born and to whom he was sent, then the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was indisputably one of the Children of Israel, the Children of Israel who subsequently became known as the Jews, as we have indicated above.
What the scholars state here is that he is to be attributed to his lineage and people, so it may be said that he was one of the Children of Israel. As for the word “Jew”, it is used to refer to a specific religion, so it should be avoided when referring to ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), even though we know that his people were the Children of Israel who used to follow the law of the Torah before him, and he came to confirm what was in it except for a few rulings which he changed.
Ibn al-Atheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
‘Imraan ibn Mathaan [i.e, the grandfather of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and the father of Maryam] was one of the descendants of Sulaymaan ibn Dawood (Solomon son of David). The family of Mathaan were the leaders and priests of the Children of Israel. End quote.
Al-Kaamil fi’l-Tareekh (1/251).
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
There is no dispute that she [Maryam – peace be upon her] was one of the descendents of Dawood (peace be upon him). Her father was ‘Imraan the prayer leader of the Children of Israel of that time. End quote.
Al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (2/52).
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
There is no doubt that the people of Moosa were the Children of Israel, and the Torah was revealed in their language. The Children of Israel were also the people of the Messiah (peace be upon him). The Messiah spoke their language. Neither of these two Messengers addressed anyone in any language other than Hebrew; neither of them spoke Latin, Syriac, Greek or Coptic. End quote.
Al-Jawaab al-Saheeh li man baddala Deen al-Maseeh (2/94).
He also said:
It is known from the consensus of the Christians that the Messiah did not speak anything other than Hebrew, like the other Prophets of the Children of Israel, and that he was circumcised on the seventh day like all the Children of Israel; he prayed facing their “qiblah” or direction of prayer, and he did not pray towards the east or enjoin praying towards the east. End quote.
Op. cit. (3/32).
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