unbelievable, as the person speaks there are deaths and wounded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9OQ-_6_ROI
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unbelievable, as the person speaks there are deaths and wounded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9OQ-_6_ROI
I can not believe this headline. Does any person with over 1/4 a brain believe this:
Netanyahu: Flotilla raid was made in self defense
SOURCE
Still, the Israelis claim that the first Israeli soldiers to enter the ship were attacked with knives and clubs ... and there is video evidence to support the claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by aadil77
(BTW, I am not saying that the Israeli action was justified - neither the way they entered the ship in the first place, nor the force with which they reacted to being attacked. But the initial physical attacks appear to have come from those on the ship ... :hmm:)
I pray that day will come, sister harb.Quote:
Originally Posted by sister harb
I saw pictures of people protesting in London. There were many non-Muslims and even some Jews amongst them!
Of course people on the ship wouldn't wait soldiers with the roses in their hands...... because they have told them that they are going to help people and soldiers had said that they'll attack....
We wish soldiers would got on the ship at least with the guns which has bluff... but they have used real bullet to those people who have just sticks....
Allah will deal with that filth and we'll get the last laughQuote:
Originally Posted by An33za
Quran 83:34-83:36 But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers, On high couches, gazing. Are not the disbelievers paid for what they used to do?
I agree that the reaction of the Israeli forces was totally disproportionate to the threat they encountered from the occupants of the ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by shev
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Originally Posted by glo
That ship was in international waters not in Israeli waters
so i believe people on the ship has a right to attack as armed men of Israel army jumped on the ship
for what they went on the ship ??
Israeli army just acted like Pirates
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pygoscelis
That westerners love to hide their heads in the sands and ignore the reality that the western governments especially the US totally support the terrorist state of Israel does not surprise me. Hypocrisy helps no one.
That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. If that's the case, it certainly puts the actions of the Israelis in an even worse light!Quote:
Originally Posted by waji
If a robber enters your house forcefully carrying guns and clearly intend to incapacitate you, would you:Quote:
Originally Posted by glo
a. serve him tea and biscuits
or
b. defend yourself and attack him with whatever weapon you have at hand?
A raid in self defense ?? what he is talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodrow
The Ship was in International Waters
The people on board were in due right to attack the pirates (Israeli Army)
After reading the comments, it seems people actually support what they did. Don't even ask :heated:Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodrow
uncle ive long since held the belief that the general population actually has no intelectual capacity of its own and will follow based on ignorance quite happily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodrow
Actually , Allah will deal with them here on earth itself before Judgement days when we Muslims will give these Jews another a holocaust which they so rightfully deserveQuote:
Originally Posted by aadil77
Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Last Hour will not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews and the Muslims will kill them until the Jews will hide themselves behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the Gharqad tree will not say this, for it is the tree of the Jews.
Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]: 5203
According to this video it seemed to be pretty bad for the IDF soldiers. Mob of guys beating soldiers as they board one by one, one of them is even thrown overboard or to a lower deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by glo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkL...has_verified=1
I know its Israeli video by idfnadesk but parts of it has been seen on different angles on videos recorded by people on board the freedom flotilla, like on the video on the following link starting around 30 seconds when they attack the IDF members coming from up.
http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...ml#post1333048
Im not entirely sure I can judge it so easily what would have been appropriate response to such violence but I can understand why overwhelmed soldiers could open fire in such situation.
According to international humanitarian law it doesnt seem to. Courtesy of Red Cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by glo
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082...25641f002d49ce
First quote is to show that this law is valid in the high seas aka international watersQuote:
Originally Posted by ICRC
The people on the flotilla clearly declared they were going to go to and later journeyed towards and approached the Gaza strip. I dont think its unreasonable for Israel to believe that they are going to breach the blockade.Quote:
67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:
(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;
May Allah make it come true very soon! Ameen. I am just annoyed that BBC and CNN reports are still confirming 9 deaths.:heated:Quote:
Originally Posted by Airforce
Israeli PM 'regrets' deaths as troops storm aid ships
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed regret after at least nine people died when troops stormed ships trying to break the Gaza blockade.
But he said soldiers had been defending themselves after they were "clubbed, beaten and stabbed".
Pro-Palestinian campaigners say the soldiers opened fire unprovoked when they landed on the aid-carrying ships.
There has been international condemnation of the loss of life, and the UN is holding an emergency session.
As the meeting of the UN Security Council got under way in New York, diplomats said the draft text of a resolution called for condemnation of the operation, the immediate release of the impounded ships and for an international inquiry.
Mr Netanyahu cut short a visit to Canada to deal with the growing crisis and cancelled a scheduled meeting in Washington with US President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
'Defend themselves'
Israel imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip after the Islamist movement Hamas took power there in 2007.
The six-ship convoy had set out to carry 10,000 tonnes of aid from Cyprus to Gaza, despite repeated Israeli warnings that it would not be allowed to reach the territory.
In a statement, Mr Netanyahu defended the Israeli operation, saying troops were attacked when they landed on the largest of the six ships in the flotilla.
"They were mobbed. They were clubbed, they were beaten, stabbed," he said.
"There was even a report of gunfire and our soldiers had to defend themselves, defend their lives or they would have been killed.
"Regrettably, in this exchange... people died. We regret this loss of life. We regret any of the violence."
Organisers of the convoy have strongly denied the Israeli account.
Contact with activists on the ships was lost after the raids and no first-hand accounts from them have yet emerged.
Arafat Shoukri, of the Free Gaza Movement (FGM) which helped organise the convoy, said those on board one ship had told them by telephone that Israeli helicopters had arrived.
"Then we started to hear screams, shouting, shooting everywhere," he said. "We heard some of them shouting 'We are raising the white flag, stop shooting at us'."
He said Israeli claims that activists had pistols and other weapons were "cheap propaganda".
Audrey Bomse, also of the FGM, told the BBC that the activists were "not going to pose any violent resistance".
The flotilla left the coast of Cyprus on Sunday and had been due to arrive in Gaza on Monday.
Reports say troops boarded the ship about 40 miles (64 km) out to sea in international waters.
Organisers of the flotilla said at least 30 people were wounded in the incident. Israel says 10 of its soldiers were injured, one seriously.
There has been widespread condemnation of the violence, with several countries summoning their Israeli ambassadors.
UN chief Ban Ki-moon said he was "shocked" and called for a "full investigation" into what happened.
The White House said the US "deeply regrets the loss of life" and was "currently working to understand the circumstances surrounding this tragedy".
There was a particularly strong response from Turkey, where many of the activists on the ships are from.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel of state terrorism and violation of international law.
In Istanbul, thousands of protesters took part in an angry demonstration against Israel.
Turkey was Israel's closest Muslim ally but relations have deteriorated in recent years.
Greece has withdrawn from joint military exercises with Israel in protest at the raid on the flotilla.
The office of French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he condemned "the disproportionate use of force", while UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said there was "a clear need for Israel to act with restraint and in line with international obligations".
Israel has escorted the ships to the port of Ashdod and says it will deport the passengers from there.
Israel says it allows about 15,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid into Gaza every week.
But the UN says this is less than a quarter of what is needed.
I can't believe what I am hearing... These Pigs have gone so low to the point where they would beat up Al Jazeera reporter?
What else can you expect from BBC, CNN and FOXNEWS media who are all controlled by those Zionist Pigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by shuraimfan4lyf
Seems like this is new for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nájlá
Unfortunately they've stooped that low many times before.
Israel has killed in the past cameramen, reporters, civilians, peace activists, in fact anyone within firing/bulldozing range that tries to portray the truth of their atrocities.
eg see THIS link as just one example.
And THIS one.