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    Another update.

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    Syrian troops have begun moving into Kurdish-held territory in the country's north east, as Turkey and its allies continue their offensive, insisting they are countering an “imminent terrorist threat”.

    In the face of a growing international outcry, Turkey's President Erdogan insisted his troops would “finish what we started”. Dozens of civilians have been killed on both sides and around 160,000 people have fled their homes. These reports contain distressing images.








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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    I have been watching this story closely from the US. Most of those in Congress and the media do not oppose Turkey on this issue, they oppose Trump. Trump made the unilateral decision to withdraw from Syria against the council of his own advisors and his own party.

    My opinion: Turkey is our Ally, and they are not the ones who want to attack us. ISIS does. So as long as Turkey does not allow ISIS terrorists to flourish under their watch, then there is no reason for the US to be there. But, we told the Kurds that we would stay and help them in exchange for them helping us. Trump made us liars Oh Syria the victory is coming.

    And now, Trump is bragging that Saudi Arabia is paying us a lot of money to send them troops and weapons to fight Iran. US soldiers should not be mercenaries.
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    I have been watching this story closely from the US. Most of those in Congress and the media do not oppose Turkey on this issue, they oppose Trump. Trump made the unilateral decision to withdraw from Syria against the council of his own advisors and his own party.

    My opinion: Turkey is our Ally, and they are not the ones who want to attack us. ISIS does. So as long as Turkey does not allow ISIS terrorists to flourish under their watch, then there is no reason for the US to be there. But, we told the Kurds that we would stay and help them in exchange for them helping us. Trump made us liars Oh Syria the victory is coming.

    And now, Trump is bragging that Saudi Arabia is paying us a lot of money to send them troops and weapons to fight Iran. US soldiers should not be mercenaries.
    LOL!!! You know what Saudi soldiers did when Saddams army invaded their border area in 1991?, well they advanced towards the Iraqis, and just as they were about 1000 feet away from the advancing iraqi tanks, they turned around and fled back to their mummies!!!

    Who needs to fight and die when you can just pay America to do it for them eh???
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    Spot the difference!



    A week is a long time in politics and all that.

    Edit - update.







    Now they are being ditched after they have served their purpose cue the articles - 'I never liked them anyway, they are not worth it etc etc'

    Col Kratman on the Kurds

    Long before the recent media campaign on behalf of the Kurds - which of course is nothing more than a pathetic neoclown attempt to put pressure on the God-Emperor Trump - Tom Kratman wrote about why the Kurds are not a people who merit help, much less sympathy, from anyone on the planet:

    My first experience of the Kurds – rather, of how the rest of the area thinks of and feels about them – was before I’d ever met my first one. This was at a majlis, in the town of Judah (or Goodah), Saudi Arabia, sometime in December or so, 1990. Citizenship is kind of an iffy and flexible concept in that part of the world, so there were folk from Saudi, from Oman, from the Emirates. There was even one Arab who insisted he was a citizen of the Gulf Cooperation Council, since he was a fully documented citizen of so many places in the GCC. I had my doubts right up until he pulled out a bilingual ID card which, indeed, did seem to list him as a citizen of the GCC. One of the attendees had brought with him a book detailing the results of the chemical attack on the Kurdish town of Halabja by the army and air force of Saddam Hussein.

    It was really heartbreaking, all those picture of gassed, dead, discolored, and decomposing Kurdish kids, who are, in fact, every bit as cute as the papers and television made them out to be. At least when they’re not dead they are. My team sergeant, Sig, and I were duly appalled and sickened.

    The Arabs, though, didn’t seem to understand. To paraphrase, “What’s the problem? Don’t you understand that these were _Kurds_ who got gassed?”

    At the time, I found that attitude completely inexplicable.

    Fast forward a few months; we’ve incited the Kurds and Shia to rise up and overthrow Saddam. They didn’t, of course, while such an uprising would have looked difficult and might have done us some good. Oh, no; instead the Shia – whose rebellion was spontaneous, anyway – waited until it looked like the Iraqi Army was crushed and such an uprising would be easy. The Kurds – who were organized – waited even longer.

    Sorry, boys, but when we offer you a quid pro quo, that doesn’t translate into “free lunch.” Moreover, when we’ve already offered someone a cease-fire it’s a bit late to try to get us to start hostilities again. In short, we owed them nothing.

    Fast forward, again, to late May, 1991. I’d come home from the Middle East, hung around a while, and been sent back, this time to Operation Provide Comfort, the Kurdish Rescue, there to quasi govern a few towns, run refugee camps, coordinate humanitarian relief, and such like. While we’re waiting in the camp on the Turkish side of the border, not too far from Silopi, overwatched by a Turkish police fort on a hill, some Kurds got in position to fire at the fort such that, should the fort return fire, the Turks will be shooting at us. So much for gratitude from people you’re trying to save, eh?

    Fortunately, Turkish discipline held firm and enlightened Kurdish dreams of advancing the cause of having a homeland of their own by getting their rescuers killed came to naught.
    President Trump's position of not defending the Kurds from our actual allies, the Turks, is legally, militarily, and morally correct. If anything, the US military is treaty-bound to defend the Turks against Kurdish incursions as per its NATO obligations.

    And, of course, those tactics very likely explain this near-incident between Turkish and US forces:

    The Pentagon confirmed Friday that US troops in Syria "came under artillery fire from Turkish positions" and demanded that Turkey halt all operations that could require the US to take "immediate defensive action."
    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/10/c...-on-kurds.html
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    He is the idiot who thinks that any good can come from Amerika..
    Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Or Russia
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    Another update.

    Ankara counts itself a victor after Syria incursion

    Trump administration hands Turkey an outcome it has long pressed Washington to accept


    Days after Turkey defied an international outcry to push ahead with an offensive against Kurdish militants in northern Syria, Ankara was facing pressure on multiple fronts.

    Donald Trump was threatening to “swiftly destroy” the Turkish economy with US sanctions as he faced mounting criticism from within his Republican party for initially clearing the way for the operation. European powers condemned the incursion and suspended arms sales to Ankara. And a sudden deal struck between the Kurds and Damascus meant that Syrian regime forces, supported by Russia, were rapidly advancing north into a region where they had not set foot for years, putting them on a potential collision course with Turkish troops.

    But, on Friday, a day after the US brokered a five-day ceasefire to pause the offensive, Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan cut a relaxed figure as he spoke in Istanbul, hailing a “new page” in Ankara’s relations with Washington and proclaiming a “victory against terrorism”.

    He had reason to be confident. Under the deal reached late on Thursday after nearly five hours of talks between Mr Erdogan and Mike Pence, US vice-president, the Trump administration handed Turkey’s leader an outcome he has long pressed Washington to accept.

    As a result, Ankara can now count itself a victor following a tumultuous week that has underlined the perception that the US is disengaging from the region, while also strengthening Syrian president Bashar al-Assad’s hand and reinforcing Russia’s position as the powerbroker in the country.

    “Turkey got what it wanted from the US,” said Emile Hokayem at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “What happened [with the US-Turkey deal] was a farce, not real negotiation because the US is an exiting power. It was a de facto acceptance of the fait accompli and of the new balance of power in the northern Middle East.”

    Crucially for Mr Erdogan, the so-called safe zone cleared of Kurdish militants that Turkey has long desired along a section of its southern border is set to be created, while the threat of US sanctions on Ankara has been lifted — for now.

    Under the US-Turkey deal, the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces, which had been armed and trained by the US to fight against the jihadis of Isis, has 120 hours to pull back from the border region, give up its heavy weapons and dismantle its fortifications.

    Sinan Ulgen, chairman of the Istanbul-based Edam think-tank, described it as a “win-win” for Turkey and the Trump administration.

    “The failure of an agreement would have brought additional sanctions by the US, a reaction by Turkey and an escalation,” he said. “Also, this [deal] is the strong signal that the US partnership with [Kurdish forces], which has been such an irritant in the bilateral relationship, has come to an end.”

    The US decision to arm the SDF had put a severe strain on relations with Ankara. Turkey considers the group an extension of the Kurdistan Workers’ party [PKK] which has fought a more than three-decade insurgency against Turkey.

    Mr Erdogan saw the opportunity to launch the offensive against the SDF after Mr Trump provided the green light by withdrawing US troops from the border area following a telephone call between the two leaders. The US president then announced that he would pull all 1,000 US troops out of Syria.

    These decisions triggered a rare bipartisan outcry from both Republicans and Democrats who accused Mr Trump of abandoning a US ally, the Kurds, while emboldening the Assad regime and its foreign backers, Russia and Iran.



    Indeed, much will now depend on talks between Mr Erdogan and Mr Putin scheduled for Tuesday, just as the 120-hour deadline agreed under the US deal will expire.

    “Tuesday is important for what we will do in the safe zone. We have no intention of remaining [in Syria],” Mr Erdogan said on Friday. He added that he had no objection to Syrian forces taking over areas previously controlled by the SDF, as long as the border areas were cleared of Kurdish fighters.

    Mr Ulgen at Edam said that such shifting dynamics were likely to accelerate re-engagement between Ankara, which has been the main supporter of the Syrian opposition during the country’s eight-year civil war, and Damascus.

    “Moscow’s game plan is to push Turkey towards recognition of the [Assad] regime, in return of which the regime will undertake responsibility for ensuring that this piece of territory is not to be used for exporting terrorist activities to Turkey,” he said.

    Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the foreign affairs committee in Russia’s upper house of parliament, described the ceasefire deal as “a chance if not to stop, then at least to suspend, the use of force”.

    “While the very fact of the cessation of the military operation, of course, is encouraging, what will happen next is not completely clear yet,” he said. “And it will clearly not be decided by Washington.”

    In north-east Syria on Friday, the ceasefire remained fragile, with the SDF accusing Turkey of continuing to shell Kurdish positions, killing five of its fighters.

    SDF officials had suggested that the group would accept the ceasefire before accusing Turkey of violating it. Kurdish militants have been left weakened and marginalised by the events of the past two weeks.

    Nawaf Xelil, director of the Center for Kurdish Studies, a UK-based think-tank, said the deal that agreed to the creation of a 30km deep buffer zone “legitimises Turkey’s occupation” in northern Syria.

    https://www.ft.com/content/eff21e8c-...e-4367d8281195



    Americans withdrawing.



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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Salaam

    Like to share.





    Perspective from Afghanistan.



    Trump being honest.



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    More tragedy.



    Assad re-establishing his regime.



    The end result.

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Salaam

    Another update.

    Blurb

    War is the continuation of politics by other means, and nowhere is this more evident than in Turkey’s involvement in the Syrian battlespace. Although policymakers in Ankara have genuine interests in Syria and see the ongoing fight as an exercise of geopolitics - the stakes are even higher for the Turkish President. For Erdogan, Syria is also about political survival as it defines his endgame.



    Edit - more analysis.



    https://medium.com/@insightmediaoffi...t-282793a789eb
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Salaam

    Interesting take on the US withdrawal.

    Cutting off the cash

    The Deep State is raging at Trump's persistent attempts to cut off the flow of funding to them:

    High-placed federal law enforcement sources dropped a bombshell, claiming the renewed push to impeach the president is rooted, in part, in President Trump’s move to pull the United States out of the conflict in Syria — and stop untold millions in dirty cash from flowing into the deep state’s pockets.

    “This isn’t about the Kurds, it’s about the cash,” one FBI source said.

    And that cash is no chump change; it’s millions and millions of dollars flowing into the coffers of crooked politicians and deep-state pockets worldwide.

    Federal sources paint a dark picture here, alleging crooked politicians and their benefactors are fuming. For years, it is alleged, deep state players have been raking in millions in illicit profits through the manufacturing and distribution of narcotics in Syria.

    But that profitable network could stop producing its riches for U.S. players if the cease-fire Trump negotiated continues and if Trump’s plan to remove U.S. personnel from Syria commences.
    Well, that and trying to keep themselves off the scaffold for their treason, of course.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/10/c...-off-cash.html

    War is big business particularly for the rich and powerful.

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    Salaam

    Another update.

    Blurb


    The United States has carried out an operation targeting Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL or ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, US officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, have told news agencies. A US official told The Associated Press that the ISIL leader was targeted in Syria's Idlib province. Another US official confirmed to Reuters news agency that the operation took place but did not disclose details and did not say whether it was successful.

    Newsweek, citing a US Army official briefed on the result of the operation, said al-Baghdadi was killed in the raid.





    US reportedly carries out operation against Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

    No details have been released but Donald Trump expected to make statement at 9am Washington time


    The US has carried out a raid in Syria targeting the Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, according to multiple reports.

    A US official told Reuters an operation had taken place targeting the terrorist leader but did not say whether it had succeeded it capturing or killing him.

    Newsweek said it had been told by a US Army official briefed on the raid that Baghdadi, 48, was dead. It said the operation took place in Syria’s north-western Idlib province, and was carried out by special operations forces after receiving actionable intelligence.

    Citing two senior administration officials, the New York Times reported that US special operations commandos had carried out a risky raid in north-western Syria on Saturday against a senior terrorist leader there, but did not name the person targeted.

    Iran was informed by Syrian sources that Baghdadi had been killed, two Iranian officials told Reuters on Sunday.

    “Iran was informed about Baghdadi’s death by Syrian officials who got it from the field,” one of the officials said.

    Reuters was also told by Iraqi security sources that Baghdadi had been killed.

    “Our sources from inside Syria have confirmed to the Iraqi intelligence team tasked with pursuing Baghdadi that he has been killed alongside his personal bodyguard in Idlib, after his hiding place was discovered when he tried to get his family out of Idlib towards the Turkish border,” one of the sources told Reuters.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a Syria war monitor, meanwhile reported that a squadron of eight helicopters accompanied by a warplane belonging to the international coalition attacked positions of the Hurras al-Deen (an al-Qaida affiliated group) where IS operatives were believed to be hiding in the Barisha area north of Idlib city.

    Associated Press reported the observatory as saying nine people had died in the attack, but it was not known whether Baghdadi was one of them.

    Earlier on Saturday the White House spokesman, Hogan Gidley, said Donald Trump planned to make a “major statement” at 9am on Sunday morning (1300GMT).

    Gidley gave no further details, and it was unclear what the topic of the president’s statement might be.

    The New York Times reported that the US defence secretary would appear on the morning shows to discuss developments in Syria, however it also reported that some analysts had expressed skepticism that Baghdadi would be hiding in Idlib.

    The region is held by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, an Islamist group that opposes Isis and routinely executes people thought to be affiliated with the group.

    There was speculation, however, that Trump might have news about al-Baghdadi, who has been the subject of an international manhunt for years.

    The president gave an indication that something was afoot earlier on Saturday night when he tweeted without explanation: “Something very big has just happened!”

    Trump has faced withering criticism from Republicans and Democrats alike for his troop withdrawal from north-eastern Syria, which permitted Turkey to attack the US’s Kurdish allies.

    Many critics of Trump’s Syria pullout have expressed worries that it would allow the Islamic State group to regain strength and pose a threat to US interests. An announcement about Baghdadi’s death could help blunt those concerns.

    Trump was expected to make the statement in the White House diplomatic reception room, which he has used to make a number of major announcements. Last week he used the same room to announce that a ceasefire between Turkey and the Kurds had taken hold.

    For days, US officials had feared that Isis would seek to capitalise on the upheaval in Syria. But they also saw a potential opportunity, in which Isis leaders might break from more secretive routines to communicate with operatives, potentially creating a chance for the US and its allies to detect them.

    Baghdadi, who has $25m bounty on his head, was long thought to hiding somewhere along the Iraq-Syria border. He has led the group since 2010, when it was still an underground al-Qaida offshoot in Iraq.

    On 16 September, Isis’s media network issued a 30-minute audio message purporting to come from Baghdadi, in which he said operations were taking place daily and called on supporters to free women jailed in camps in Iraq and Syria over their alleged links to his group.

    In the audio message, Baghdadi also said the US and its proxies had been defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that the US had been “dragged” into Mali and Niger.

    At the height of its power Isis ruled millions of people in territory running from northern Syria through towns and villages along the Tigris and Euphrates valleys to the outskirts of the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.

    But in 2017, the fall of Mosul and Raqqa, its strongholds in Iraq and Syria respectively, stripped Baghdadi, an Iraqi, of the trappings of a caliph and turned him into a fugitive thought to be moving along the desert border between Iraq and Syria.

    US air strikes killed most of his top lieutenants, and before Isis published a video message of Baghdadi in April there had been conflicting reports over whether he was alive.

    Despite losing its last significant territory, Isis is believed to have sleeper cells around the world, and some fighters operate from the shadows in Syria’s desert and Iraq’s cities.

    The group claimed responsibility for a series of suicide bombings in churches and hotels in Sri Lanka that killed more than 250 people in April, though police in the Indian Ocean island country say they are yet to establish a direct link to the terrorist group.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...kr-al-baghdadi

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Salaam

    Lots of comment after his death.





    Blurb

    US special forces have said that they carried out a mission that led to the death of Abu Bakr Baghdadi in north western Syria. Bilal Abdul Kareem is standing by to answer your questions now!

















    Finally.



    I hate Bush, Blair, Obama and Trump far more than I ever hated Baghdadi. He died a Muslim and now his reckoning is with Allah (swt). Performative acts of cursing to prove that you’re not a terrorist are frankly pathetic.

    Killing Baghdadi won’t kill the idea of Caliphate. That will endure. For however long it takes to re-establish it.

    No doubt Baghdadi was a terrorist. He terrorised Muslims and kuffar alike. His terrorism was nothing compared to the Syrian regime (whom Trump thanked yesterday), the Russians (bombing schools and hospitals) or the Americans (the ravaging of Iraq...

    ...through relentless bombing for years and through swingeing sanctions that killed over 500,000 children, ‘a price worth paying’). And no, I’m not interested in reading your op-ed where you’ve condemned all this.

    If there were justice in this world then Bush, Blair, Putin, Assad, Obama would be scurrying around from cave to cave as wanted men. They would be mercilessly hunted down as terrorists. And the American, British and Russian public would be falling over themselves to curse them...
    ...and utterly disavow any association with them.

    I had no time of day for Baghdadi and his gang. Their ‘Caliphate’ was but a thugocracy garbed in religious clothing. But until the true criminals are brought to book I’m not interested in condemning him. That’s all I have to say.

    https://twitter.com/GleamingRazor/st...52995200188417
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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    Some scepticism over his reported death.

    Abu Bakr al Baghdadi dies… yet again

    Veteran Arab journalist Abdel Bari Atwan says there are good reasons to doubt Donald Trump’s account of his latest “triumph’ – the alleged killing of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi.

    We never knew how good an actor President Donald Trump was until his press conference yesterday announcing that U.S. Special Forces had killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in Syria’s Idlib province.

    He basked in self-awarded triumph and behaved as though he had achieved a monumental victory, as though he had defeated the Soviet Union at the height of its power.

    Each and every one of his utterances and movements, even his facial gestures, were carefully calculated and pre-rehearsed.

    The information Trump provided about the operation – including how Baghdadi “crying, whimpering and screaming” blew himself and several of his wives and children up in an escape tunnel – may have been true. But it may not have been. If we are to believe it, we will need some concrete visual evidence.

    The Russians, who Trump thanked for their cooperation, denied knowing anything about the operation and expressed their doubts about whether Baghdadi had indeed been killed. The Syrians, who Trump also indicated had been cooperative, ridiculed the notion.

    Tracking Baghdadi is the last of their priorities right now, and in any case, the Syrian army exerts no control over Idlib. Perhaps Trump confused the Syrian government with the Syrian opposition, which would not be surprising.

    A professional liar

    Trump is a professional liar. His statements and tweets are replete with untruths. This may be just another of his fabrications – like the purported killing of Hamza Bin Laden, unaccompanied by any evidence or photographs – aimed at crediting him with some “victory” that diverts attention from his overall failure in Syria and projects him as a hero to his electorate.

    And never forget his obsession with one-upping his predecessor Barack Obama. Obama killed Osama bin Laden, so here is Trump killing the even more dreaded ISIS chief.

    When the Americans killed Saddam Hussein’s sons Udai and Qusai, they displayed their corpses for the world’s press to see. They also ensured that video footage of their father’s hanging was leaked to the media.

    They placed the body of Libya’s murdered leader Muammar al Gadhafi’s in a refrigerated container for “viewing” until the stench got too strong. So why haven’t they shown us footage of their three most prized and celebrated trophies – Osama and Hamza bin Laden and Abu Bakr al Baghdadi?

    I have followed Al Qaida and ISIS closely as a journalist for a long time, and one thing they always do is issue official statements confirming the death of their commanders — if only to fulfil their religious obligation to inform the families, facilitate inheritance procedures and permit their wives to remarry if they choose.

    But unlike Bush Jr.’s administration, Obama’s and Trump’s never showed us pictures of their trophies. Their burial places are unknown. This suggests that they have something to hide, and we may not learn the truth about it for decades.

    End of ISIS?

    Even if Baghdadi was indeed killed, that is unlikely to have much effect on ISIS. He was more of a figurehead than a hands-on leader of the organisation, even when it had seven million people, thousands of fighters and 240,000 square kilometres of territory under its control. The destruction of his “Caliphate” and the killing or capture of 13,000 of his troops certainly did not enhance his stature.

    Baghdadi had none of the charisma of his original mentor Osama bin Laden. He only ever made two videotaped appearances – the first when he proclaimed his Caliphate in Mosul in 2014, and the second four years later when he appealed to his followers to fight on against the Americans and their allies after its collapse.

    Baghdadi has been killed four times before, according to official U.S. statements. On each of those occasions, the Russians correctly refuted the claim, so we are inclined to believe them this fifth time.

    Even if Baghdadi indeed met his end in the gruesome way described, that will not be the end of ISIS. The collapse of Al Qaeda led to the emergence of two even more extreme groups: ISIS and the Nusra Front. The same may happen again, given the fertile territory for a re-emergence that exists in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

    If Baghdadi’s killing is confirmed, his followers can be expected to mount revenge attacks in various parts of the world, especially the U.S. and Western Europe. He may also be transformed into a legend, especially if the story of him killing himself to avoid capture takes hold.

    One ISIS follower I interviewed while researching my book Islamic State: The Digital Caliphate told me that if the Caliphate were destroyed, its followers would go underground, from where they could operate more freely and ferociously as they would no longer have to bear the costly burden of looking after a large civilian population.

    He also said that if its leader were killed, the group’s response would resemble an earthquake.

    Could this happen now after Baghdadi’s fifth reported killing? Will the U.S., which many accuse of being behind the establishment of ISIS in the first place, prove to be the engineer of its renaissance?

    https://5pillarsuk.com/2019/10/28/ab...ies-yet-again/



    Russia casts doubt on US version of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's death

    In his announcement, Trump added: "He died like a dog. He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place.”

    However, the Russian Ministry of Defence has reportedly questioned the 'contradictory details' emerging about the operation.

    According to the Daily Star , a ministry statement said: "The increase in the number of direct participants and countries allegedly taking part in this operation, each with completely contradictory details, raises legitimate questions and doubts about its reality and all the more in success.”

    Russian Major General Igor Konashenkov added that there had been no US or coalition air strikes in the area of Syria where the killing apparently took place, the news agency RIA Novosti reports.

    It was only three days ago that Trump became aware of the plans to take out Baghdadi.

    As part of the plan the US had to secure permission from Russia to fly over its airspace.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...-isis-20740219



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    On Turkey, Assad said what many still don’t get: Erdogan is not Turkey

    He said most Turkish parties & many in army/security are against Erdogan’s position on Assad.

    He also said Erdoğan will accept him once he comes under domestic/international pressure. On SDF, which the anchors called ‘dissolved militia’, Assad said they have had ties with them even before Turkish invasion.

    Syrian regime return will be in full eventually but they will gradually do that.

    No armed group, administration will be allowed outside Syrian state. On Kurdish rights, Assad said they are not against cultural rights. He gave ‘patriotic’ Armenians as an example that they have full cultural rights

    He said sensitivity about Kurds is because they talk about ‘Syrian Kurdistan’ and ‘Greater Kurdistan’ and that will not be allowed. On ties with Turkey, he said there have been several meetings b/w security officials with Russian presence inside Syria & in Russia.

    He said a meeting w/ Erdogan or his people won’t honour him but he is ready to do it if it served Syrian interest. On Idlib he said the final solution will be one of three: they either leave to Turkey, surrender or go to war.

    He said that all agreements and steps are temporary and the only solution acceptable is retaining control of all Syrian territory by the Syrian state. On Baghdadi, he said that they had no role in the operation and Trump had thanked them only to make the operation look credible.

    He doubted that the operation has happened and said anything Americans say should not be accepted at face value. When asked if Obama was better than Trump because former rejected Turkish demands for a safe zone but latter allowed, Assad disagree.

    Assad described Trump as least worst American president ‘because he is transparent’. When asked why meet with Turkish invaders but not with Israel, Assad said Turkey is a neighbor and they have ties despite fluctuations in the relationship while they do not recognise Israel’s existence at all.

    On Turkey again, Assad claimed that the Turkish military and intelligence were supporting him until ‘Erdoğan conducted the coup against them’ but he had no doubt that the relations will get better soon either because Erdogan’s end or him changing course under pressure. On Arab League’s decision on reinviting Syria into the League, he said Syria had said nothing when the Arab League decided to suspend their membership and won’t say anything now either.

    Then laughed and said that is enough about Arab League. All in all, Bashar al-Assad came out to declare victory.

    He sees the picture much more clearly than all analysts who have crowded this space.

    The killer of 200,000 civilians is winning thanks to an immoral spineless international order and he knows it.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...192230400.html



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    I want to firstly start of by saying I am not pro pkk/ypg, I believe the pkk have damaged the plight of the kurds more than help it.

    I believe their criminal activities cannot be debated and I believe they are among the many traitors currently present among the kurdish political.

    Spectrum. The fact that they allied with assad and are adamant to kill off any sort of opposition, be it kurd or turk (search pkk aggression on kurds in turkey/iran) who are also pro kurdish independence just proves that they are not interested in defending kurds.

    But to call them communists is just a result of your ignorance or following up what other turks say in order for them to use it as a “muslim vs kuff” argument.

    They’re ideology has shifted from communism to socialism/liberterianism.

    The turks are also secular, so as a muslim, you should neither be supporting turkey nor ypg - the ypg also has many muslim members, so the argument that turkey has many muslims in the army is obsolete when in fact they are fighting for a batil constitution.

    The picture is proven to show that many muslim kurds in syria who took up arms against isis/rebels/assad joined the ranks of the ypg because it was the only group in which it had a common identity with.

    Ypg are not the same as pkk in terms of recruitment.

    While ypg is still as ruthless and terroristic in nature since it’s being governed by heads of the pkk - those who join pkk do so willingly (other than those who are kidnapped and forced - small%) whereas those who join ypg do so as a will to survive and be protected.

    The point of this in conclusion is to state that there are many muslims (be it very ignorant) among the ypg - so one cannot come forward and say “turkey are a muslim army”.

    Those who do need to know the politics of using religion to mobilise and manipulate the masses.

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    President Donald Trump said that the US military would withdrawing from Syria, but then said they would be securing Syria's oil fields. So what exactly are the US doing in Syria?







    Edit - Very insightful.

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    US media and government seems to have turned on #Turkey. A lot of Washington, DC types are expecting a fundamental change in the US-Turkey relationship. Here's why they won't get it.

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    In light of the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi earlier this month, Moazzam explains why the Syrian revolution remains a blessed struggle, and how the resistance has endured a military bombardment and betrayal from global superpowers and their regional proxies.

    Topics of discussion also include Moazzam’s incarceration in February 2014 over “Syria-related terrorism activities” for which he was released without charge, how the Syrian conflict has affected anti-terrorism laws in the UK, and why Muslim scholars in the West have either become silent regarding Syria or are intentionally ignoring the ongoing plight of Syrians.




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