first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil (OP)
[FONT="Verdana"][SIZE="2"]i think she is sooo amazing to stick to her guns and leave it on..allah will reward her for this..
32 mother , set to become first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil
Refused to accept court sentence that she spend 15 days learning her civic duties
'Judges need citizenship lessons - not me'
Taking case to court of human rights
By PETER ALLEN
A 32-year-old mother from France is set to become the first woman ever to be sent to prison for wearing an Islamic veil.
Hind Ahmas refuses to accept the legitimacy of a Paris court which has ordered her to spend 15 days learning her civic duties.
She was sentenced by magistrates in Meaux, a Paris suburb, yesterday - after being arrested wearing an outlawed veil outside the Elysee Palace in the French capital on April 11.
Facing jail: Hind Ahmas, left, could be sentenced to two years in prison for wearing a banned Islamic head covering in France
That was shortly after Nicolas Sarkozy's government introduced a ban on all forms of Islamic head coverings, including the niqab and the burka.
Ahmas was not allowed into the hearing at Meaux Criminal Court because she refused to remove her face covering.
But prosecutors made it clear to her lawyer, Gilles Devers, that Ahmas now faces two years in prison and a £27,000 fine.
'There is no possibility of me removing the veil,' Ahmas said.
'I'm not taking it off. The judge needs citizenship lessons, not me.'
Ahmas, who has already refused to pay a fine of around £100 for wearing a veil on another occasion, intends to take her case to the European Court of Human Rights.
She has launched a pressure group, Do Not Touch My Constitution, along with Kenza Drider, another veil wearer who wants to run for president in the Spring.
New law: Ahmas, 32, pictured with would-be presidential candidate Kenza Drider, is taking her case to the European Court of Human Rights
If Ahmas does become the first woman in the world to go to prison for wearing a veil, then it will be seen as a huge propaganda coup for Islamic-rights campaigners.
Mr Sarkozy said the ban on head coverings was not aimed at persecuting Muslims, but merely to make France a more tolerant, inclusive society.
When it was introduced, he said the ban was aimed at stopping criminals – from terrorists to shoplifters – disguising their faces from security staff and CCTV.
But the sight of a young mother being led away to the cells merely because she refuses to take off her veil will cause outrage around the world.
Mr Devers said the veil ban was 'unconstitutional', while senior police officers have told judges that it is unenforceable without persecuting women.
France became the first country in Europe to outlaw the veil, while similar legislation has since been passed in Belgium and Holland.
One has been mooted in Britain by a number of politicians, including Conservative backbenchers, but there are no immediate plans to introduce one.
Re: first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil
format_quote Originally Posted by onetwo
If you don't like it don't go there. Doesn't Saudi Arabia ban christianity?
Saudi Arabia is honest about its closed minded tribalism. France isn't. That is the difference.
France claims to be multicultural but then pulls garbage like banning women from wearing what they want to wear for no other reason than they are from an unfamiliar culture.
Saying "Sauda Arabia does it too" is no excuse for France or for any other nation. Do we really want to equate ourselves with Saudi Arabia?
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at your jealous rage..just can't stand that there's a portal of the world where the devil you worship isn't gyrating naked with some woman bowing to a man made idol?.. Saudi Arabia isn't as conservative as all that unfortunately.. I know it is defiled everyday by your ilk & surely the mushrikoon and kaffirs are rijis fajtanibooh. I have lived there for four years and seen with my own eyes unfortunately your devil will circumambulate there invited by despots..
Qul man rabbu alssamawati waalardi quli Allahu qul afaittakhathtum min doonihi awliyaa la yamlikoona lianfusihim nafAAan waladarran qul hal yastawee alaAAma waalbaseeru am hal tastawee alththulumatu waalnnooru am jaAAaloo lillahi shurakaa khalaqoo kakhalqihi fatashabaha alkhalqu AAalayhim quli Allahu khaliqu kulli shayin wahuwa alwahidu alqahharu
There are non in the world more intolerant than kaffirs and mushriks, for the unenlightened, unseasoned and unreasoning by their very nature are obtuse, loud, and hypocritical. They profess accolades they don't possess, they proclaim 'freedom of speech' yet imprison and drone others for it, they demand freedom of religion but in truth it is freedom from religion, unless it is the sort of bible thumping dark aged paganism. They claim all men are created equal yet stratify men based on their color, religion, and financial prowess, they proclaim innocent until proven guilty yet bait young men into a frenzy and imprison others without trial.. They maim, they rape, they burn bodies, they steal body part, they urinate on the dead, they pose with dead bodies, they kill civilians, they strip them of their clothes, they unleash dogs on them & for more pictures, they use illegal weapons, they withhold aid & impose sanctions so if they're not directly dying they're slowly dying, they kill thousands upon thousands of children and call them 'collateral damage' so what exactly is there to compare even to a despotic state like Saudi?
Re: first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil
format_quote Originally Posted by Chaajo
Well doesn't Vatican ban Islam?
It probably does. But it doesn't pretend to be open to anything that conflicts with its official dogma. France does. The hypocracy is what strikes me here. France pretends to be more open minded and less tribal than the Vatican or Saudi Arabia (or the artist formerly known as Bluebell), and to welcome all cultures and then it pulls something like this.
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The perspective on hijab is usually very negative in the West. It shows you how much brainwashing has been done to them by the Media. For some it is oppression, for some it is radical Islam, (ironically) for some it does not give women any identity.
On the other hand, throughout history, hijab has been a garb of honour in the practising Muslim society which gives beautiful and proper identity to Muslim women.
Anyway, it seems like that this passionate war between (proper) Muslims and the anti-Hijab non-Muslims will continue for a long time. The day is probably not far away when there will be a literal war for hijab.
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I will not calm down until I will put one cheek of a tyrant on the ground and the other under my feet, and for the poor and weak, I will put my cheek on the ground. - Umar ibn khattab(Ra)
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Alrighty now I know how it is. I'm going to get banned because I'm voicing out my FREE opinion and you muslims hate it because I am a westerner. I am now assumed to be a troll because I have different beliefs, great can't wait to get banned.
It's not your country how would you like it if I came to your society and started drinking alcohol in public? Wouldn't like it would ya?
And we don't steal lands^.
Re: first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil
format_quote Originally Posted by UnitedStates#1
Alrighty now I know how it is. I'm going to get banned because I'm voicing out my FREE opinion and you muslims hate it because I am a westerner. I am now assumed to be a troll because I have different beliefs, great can't wait to get banned.
It's not your country how would you like it if I came to your society and started drinking alcohol in public? Wouldn't like it would ya?
And we don't steal lands^.
Greetings of peace,
Just to clarfiy, many members on board are also westerners and also muslims, not sure exactly where you came up with the 'we muslims hate all westerners'.
It's not your beliefs, perhaps the way you come across, ever taught of that? There will likely be agreement or disagreements but surely we can try keep our calm and inshaa'Allaah speak in a good manner.
lol @the analogy of drinking alcohol, no sane person would think a drunk person is considered okay out in public, perhaps remain in your home?
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
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Ok thanks for the calm approach.
Yes the analogy was bad but my point is that you cannot simply go to a country and try to change the way of life there. If I was to go to a muslim country would you be happy with me trying to voice out my opinion to establish gambling, bars and brothels? of course not!
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If I was to go to a muslim country would you be happy with me trying to voice out my opinion to establish gambling, bars and brothels? of course not!
Again the analogy is wrong . Gambling,bar and brothrels are all forbidden . Gambling squanders away wealths which could have benefited the poor . Brothrels only give you only STDs and the alcohols in the bar destroys your liver and brain. The reason those pleasures are forbidden is because they do more damage than good,which you cannot prove wrong
002.219 They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit."
Looks you are just afraid that if Islam spreads , then you can no longer enjoys those "pleasures" .
When truth is hurled at falsehood , falsehood perishes. because falsehood by its nature is bound to perish [21:18- Holy quran]
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at your jealous rage..just can't stand that there's a portal of the world where the devil you worship isn't gyrating naked with some woman bowing to a man made idol?.. Saudi Arabia isn't as conservative as all that unfortunately.. I know it is defiled everyday by your ilk & surely the mushrikoon and kaffirs are rijis fajtanibooh. I have lived there for four years and seen with my own eyes unfortunately your devil will circumambulate there invited by despots.. 
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