Locals turn against Taliban in eastern Afghanistan

''The christian science monitor'' what a reliable source, sorry bro, i must take this article with a pinch of salt without evidence.

format_quote Originally Posted by LauraS

^^From experience, it doesn't matter if there is evidence from Afghani people themselves posted on this board, about the actions of the Taliban, it still won't be believed...

Well said.

format_quote Originally Posted by LauraS

^^From experience, it doesn't matter if there is evidence from Afghani people themselves posted on this board, about the actions of the Taliban, it still won't be believed...

Oh? List out that experience for us...

format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset

''The christian science monitor'' what a reliable source, sorry bro, i must take this article with a pinch of salt without evidence.

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I was just reading a CSM article the other day.. was another hilarious article by half wits.. they were praying that Shafeeq takes head of the presidency otherwise the brotherhood will do away with all Christians in Egypt.. Makes me wonder why we didn't do away with them since Amr ibn il3aas conquered Egypt some millenniums ago.

format_quote Originally Posted by لميس

I was just reading a CSM article the other day.. was another hilarious article by half wits

Yea, let's all attack the source coz this article doesn't go well with our self-painted images of Taliban as angels and saints. They are the most noble of people. Of course, they won't do anything like this because there is clear cut evidence that shows Afghan's celebrate and hug these Taliban everywhere they see them. There is no fear of Taliban in Afghan people at all and they happily offer them residence and food just like Ansars of old.

format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew

Yea, let's all attack the source coz this article doesn't go well with our self-painted images of Taliban as angels and saints. They are the most noble of people. Of course, they won't do anything like this because there is clear cut evidence that shows Afghan's celebrate and hug these Taliban everywhere they see them. There is no fear of Taliban in Afghan people at all and they happily offer them residence and food just like Ansars of old.

Isn't that the aim of your article? To malign the only source of resistance and insurgency in an otherwise subjugated country? The wars in Afghanistan aren't brought upon by the Taliban.. in fact they were borne from a group of students hence the name 'talib' who couldn't take the bullshit much longer. It isn't the taliban that invaded Afghanistan in 327 bc or 1839-42 or recently the Russians or the U.S thereafter nor the taliban responsible for the unending western greed for the region. I don't value your articles or your comments.. they do nothing for me except perhaps inspire a yawn. They work well to expose you as a hypocrite and garner for you the attention of the forum Tartuffes. I am not sure what you were going for there? a little reverse psychology? You've a long way to go greenhorn..

best,

format_quote Originally Posted by Aprender

trying to get into another argument with your brothers and sisters.

Well, they are not brothers and sisters if they don't argue?? Unless my bros and sis clear their heads of prejudices for anything western, there's nothing I can really do that will satisfy them.

format_quote Originally Posted by Aprender

Just find another source for the article. Why is that so hard for you to do?

It's a CMS exclusive if not mistaken.

format_quote Originally Posted by Aprender

I am American born and raised

Not all bros and sis are American born and raised. Otherwise I would have cut off that "BS".

format_quote Originally Posted by لميس

Isn't that the aim of your article? To malign the only source of resistance and insurgency in an otherwise subjugated country?

The purpose was to expose that they do sometimes transgress in their battle for resistance. One can not just hold the banner of resistance and then keep on doing whatever he likes. They have to be accountable for their actions and we HAVE to hold them accountable. Taliban has got so many factions that it is hard to tell which one is still pure in the fight and which will do anything for political and personal gains under the banner of Islamic resistance.

format_quote Originally Posted by لميس

I don't value your articles or your comments

I don't write any of these articles...so I don't care. I do write the comments but I still don't care.

format_quote Originally Posted by لميس

I am not sure what you were going for there? a little reverse psychology? You've a long way to go greenhorn

Considering, I am the newbie here, why was it hard for you to comprehend what was I going for?

format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew

Residents in Andar are rebelling against the Taliban, but that doesn't mean that they are siding with the government.

A group of villagers in eastern Afghanistan took up arms against the Taliban and say they’ve now managed to regain control.

In Ghazni’s Andar district, one of the areas hit hardest by a series of recent Taliban-forced school closures, nearly 400 locals from eight villages in the eastern Afghan province reportedly gathered to confront the Taliban. In the two weeks of fighting, 11 people were reportedly killed; three from the citizens’ militia and eight Taliban fighters, but villagers say they’ve managed to reopen 81 of Andar’s 83 schools.

Though the fighting in Andar may serve as an indication that locals now have less patience for the Taliban’s extremist ideologies than they did almost 11 years ago, it’s not a clear beacon of hope that the tide is turning toward stability in Afghanistan.

The article quoted above is from 4th June 2012.

Yet, according to Reuters, in Andar, the same place mentioned in the article you quoted, even as far back as January 2011, even girls schools were already operating:

Now, schools are said to be operating in all Pashtun (i.e. mainly Taleban-controlled) districts of Ghazni; in Andar, even girls’ schools are also said to be working, he says.

And not due to taking up arms, or fighting, or killing, as some might have you believe:

But basically they have been sending petitions to the Taliban to let schools open in the areas they control and the Taliban could be responding to that pressure, Ruttig says citing local sources.

http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan...ntler-taliban/

format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah

The article quoted above is from 4th June 2012.

Yet, according to Reuters, in Andar, the same place highlighted in the article you quoted, as far back as January 2011, even girls schools were operating:

Appreciate that someone actually bothered to do a little research rather than blindly attacking me or the source. Anyway Sis, I think the CMS article mentions that the schools have been closed again recently because:

format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew

Taliban began threatening schools largely in response to a ban on unregistered motorcycles. Local authorities say the prohibition has severely restricted the insurgents’ movements and the Taliban sought to use school closures as a means to pressure the government to change the policy.

format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew

Taliban began threatening schools largely in response to a ban on unregistered motorcycles. Local authorities say the prohibition has severely restricted the insurgents’ movements and the Taliban sought to use school closures as a means to pressure the government to change the policy.

The motorcycles ban, which is supported by the United States and its NATO allies, has drastically restricted insurgent movements and increased friction between the Taliban and government, Afghan security officials said.

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/a...n-shut-schools

Why is that not surprising? Nothing like a bit of foreign meddling is there, to interfere in Muslims affairs? And nothing like a bit of foreign meddling to make sure that their troops are still needed. Sow a bit of conflict and discord, and then work your way in:

As NATO troops continue to leave Afghanistan, it is the only province that will see a net gain in the number of foreign troops on the ground over coming months.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/talib...#ixzz1x3Rqnt5T

That has been the way of invading/occupying forces from the colonial age and long before.

format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/a...n-shut-schools

Why is that not surprising? Nothing like a bit of foreign meddling is there, to interfere in Muslims affairs? And nothing like a bit of foreign meddling to make sure that their troops are still needed. Sow a bit of conflict and discord, and then work your way in:



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/talib...#ixzz1x3Rqnt5T

That has been the way of invading/occupying forces from the colonial age and long before.

The government bans unregistered motorcycles which hurts insurgents....and they respond by hurting the education of thousands of children. Way to go. Clearly their strategists and military leaders are a bit dumb and short-sighted. If Taliban is so much for education, isn't it kinda funny that they are responding to pressure by going against their own principles?? So education for children is ONLY government's concern?...and of no concern at all for the Taliban? - that they are closing them down? Sis, clearly the enemy is very smart and our insurgents... Yet, I am hopeful and pray that Allah gives us a charismatic, smart, and a noble leader which can lead all these insurgent groups and defeat the enemy.

Thanks for providing other links.