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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    Ya Allah please protect my brothers and sisters in Palestine, and may your curse be upon those evil zionists. ameen ya rabb al alameen.
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    Ameen, Ameen
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    Problems is not only zionists but also jewish diaspora over the world.
    That's why Israel is strong. They control the world finances....

    Please remember me what Allah SWT said about the jews ???
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tasnym View Post
    Problems is not only zionists but also jewish diaspora over the world.
    That's why Israel is strong. They control the world finances....


    Please learn what zionists mean.

    Not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews (diaspora or not).
    There are many jews who are against the evil practices of the state of Israel and against zionism.
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    You are right then remember me what Allah SWT said about jews.
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    Dominique Gaston André Strauss-Kahn is a French economist, lawyer, politician, and member of the French Socialist Party (PS). Strauss-Kahn became the Managing Director of the IMF on 28 September 2007.

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    He said : Dominique Strauss-Kahn déclarait dans un entretien à Passages en 1991 :

    "Je considère que tout Juif dans la diaspora, et donc c'est vrai en France, doit partout où il le peut apporter son aide à Israël. C'est pour ça d'ailleurs qu'il est important que les Juifs prennent des responsabilités politiques. Tout le monde ne pense pas la même chose dans la Communauté juive, mais je crois que c'est nécessaire. Car, on ne peut pas à la fois se plaindre qu'un pays comme la France, par exemple, ait dans le passé et peut-être encore aujourd'hui, une politique par trop pro-arabe et ne pas essayer de l'infléchir par des individus qui pensent différemment en leur permettant de prendre le plus grand nombre de responsabilités. En somme, dans mes fonctions et dans ma vie de tous les jours, au travers de l'ensemble de mes actions, j'essaie de faire en sorte que ma modeste pierre soit apportée à la construction de la terre d'Israël." (Propos recueillis par Emille Malet, Passages n°35, février-mars 1991).


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    I get up every morning I wonder what I can do to help israel like jewish diaspora.

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tasnym View Post
    You are right then remember me what Allah SWT said about jews.
    Yes, I remember some verses in the Qur'an. Allah says in the Qur'an that some jews will go to hell and some jews will go to jannah (paradise).

    And your point is?
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    I wake up everyday to pray salat, have breakfast, dinner and lunch yet sometimes I am not grateful for what I have. When that happens, I always remind my-self about people who are always suffering in Palestine, Gaza. Then I would be thankful to Allah S.W.T. for giving me such a privilege to live in this world like this.
    O ummah, for how much longer?

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan View Post


    Yes, I remember some verses in the Qur'an. Allah says in the Qur'an that some jews will go to hell and some jews will go to jannah (paradise).

    And your point is?

    Please in which verses ?

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.
    (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    sis, i understand what you are saying, and there is a muddying of the lines when it comes to zionism
    but we must always remember not to push at the jews who are looking at the truth and may come to it some day.

    the hadith you mentioned was not a rule, but a prophecy,
    it was not the case during the time of the Prophet pbuh, and he never commanded such a thing generalizing all jews.
    i believe it may possibly happen as a result of the atrocities they commit and will clarify that this is not a rule,

    we must do our best to give them the guidance, people the world over are waking up,

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tasnym View Post
    Please in which verses ?
    Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (QS. 2:62)

    [1] Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among Pagans, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence.
    [2] A Messenger (Muhammad) from Allâh, reciting (the Qur'ân) purified pages.
    [3] Containing correct and straight laws from Allâh.
    [4] And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not until after there came to them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and whatever was revealed to him).
    [5] And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform Prayers and give Charity: and that is the right religion.
    [6] Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and pagans will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
    [7] Verily, those who believe [in the Oneness of Allâh, and in His Messenger Muhammad (pbuh)) including all obligations ordered by Islâm] and do righteous good deeds, they are the best of creatures.
    [8] Their reward with their Lord is Eden Paradise (Gardens of Eternity), underneath which rivers flow, they will abide therein forever, Allâh Well-Pleased with them, and they with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord.
    (QS. 98)

    "By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, there is no-one of this Ummah, Jew or Christian, who hears of me then dies without believing in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of Hell." (Sahih Muslim, 153).


    So, please tell me directly that you believe that ALL jews now will be going to hell?
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tasnym View Post
    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.
    (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).
    Please tell me if the hadith says "all jews"?
    or if it even says "all muslims"?
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    this is where dislike button is needed... subhnallah amin to all the duas
    O ummah, for how much longer?

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan View Post


    Please tell me if the hadith says "all jews"?
    or if it even says "all muslims"?
    The hadith says " Jews"
    not some jews or this jews, or man or those who live here...

    so you must understand all jews in this period
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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    No one who doesn't accept Islam, Allah SWT and El Rassoul SAWS
    will go to paradis !!!

    It's the first time of my live I hear some jews will go to paradis, until they convert and accept Islam.

    We don't know if we'll go to paradise too but we have more chance than jews.

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    Re: O ummah, for how much longer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan View Post


    Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (QS. 2:62)

    [1] Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among Pagans, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence.
    [2] A Messenger (Muhammad) from Allâh, reciting (the Qur'ân) purified pages.
    [3] Containing correct and straight laws from Allâh.
    [4] And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not until after there came to them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and whatever was revealed to him).
    [5] And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform Prayers and give Charity: and that is the right religion.
    [6] Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and pagans will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
    [7] Verily, those who believe [in the Oneness of Allâh, and in His Messenger Muhammad (pbuh)) including all obligations ordered by Islâm] and do righteous good deeds, they are the best of creatures.
    [8] Their reward with their Lord is Eden Paradise (Gardens of Eternity), underneath which rivers flow, they will abide therein forever, Allâh Well-Pleased with them, and they with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord.
    (QS. 98)

    "By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, there is no-one of this Ummah, Jew or Christian, who hears of me then dies without believing in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of Hell." (Sahih Muslim, 153).


    So, please tell me directly that you believe that ALL jews now will be going to hell?

    I have send this to a Cheikh in University of Sharjah and i'll come back inchallah with the answer. Inchallah.
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    [85] And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will NEVER be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. [86] How shall Allâh guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and after they bore witness that the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) is true and after clear proofs had come unto them? And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrongdoers). [87] They are those whose recompense is that on them (rests) the Curse of Allâh, of the angels, and of all mankind. [88] They will abide therein (Hell). Neither will their torment be lightened, nor will it be delayed or postponed (for a while). (Qur’an 3:85-88)
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    Their is also a hadith that says out of every 1000 person 999 will go to hell. Narrated in Bukhari and Muslim: Allah will say, Send forth those who are destined for hell? Adam (pbuh) will say.Who are those? ...Allah will say Out of every thousand, 999 go to hell and 1 to paradise". - Bukhari 6:60:265
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