Breaking news: Israel plans to invade gaza officialy now

format_quote Originally Posted by islamica

I try to avoid politics as it gets ugly

The secret I found is that every time it gets really heated and ugly and I gauge it, I come out learning something new and it goes into my armamentarium for the next thing.. for what it is worth I am very glad to have you here

format_quote Originally Posted by islamica

I agree. What I meant was that all these escalations are just the precursors to what will really happen and with the increasing of these events, it seems the kuffar are in a hurry to bring their own demise.

May Allah swt hasten their demise and make us steadfast.. We've been through worse, Shiites inside during the Fatimid, Hulago on one side and the crusades on the other.. we may not have another Salah Ad'din but we should all strive to be that not wait for one brave soul from our midst to unite us. I believe whole heartedly that Allah swt will take care of the rest.. Look how a hurricane crippled us for nearly three weeks.

format_quote Originally Posted by islamica

I agree. What I meant was that all these escalations are just the precursors to what will really happen and with the increasing of these events, it seems the kuffar are in a hurry to bring their own demise.

This is an interesting way to look at it. I guess it means I should stop taking it personally and stop being cynical of Pakistanis! Things are happening in this country exactly as Allah swt wants them to, what is there to be worried/sad/downcast about!

Recently a man was given death penalty by the court and which was carried out. Newspaper in whole country are publishing editorials opining to ban death penalty and calling it a draconian law!

format_quote Originally Posted by شَادِنُ

This will spell the beginning of the end for Israel in shaa Allah- I don't think anyone buys into their bull anymore. Die hard secularists in Egypt are already calling for severing ties and others an actual war against them!
My only concern is how prepared the ummah is but the only thing they can bank on now at least is that Israel has been calling of bluff of late threatening here and there but not able to carry through the attacks they desire, they're given to self-aggrandizement- but the U.S has its own troubles and I doubt very much they'll come to their aid now!
I am glad the U.S funneled all that money there, it will be nice when we inherit it all in shaa Allah.

Al-salam 'alaykum sister,

Are you sure about the secularists calling for severing ties? Last I know that they are very against Brother Mursi (May Allah preserve him) and the whole new government there in Egypt.

Also I heard some rumors about Egypt moving tanks into Sinai desert and Israel warning them to pull them out. In sha Allah this is the beginning of the end of Israel like you said, and it's funny how they bring destruction upon themselves. May Allah accept the dead as Shuhada`a and put terror into hearts of enemies of Islam.

But we have to always remember that Allah Jal wa'ala will not change the state of the Ummah until we change ourselves.

http://electronicintifada.net/conten...cks-gaza/11889

Here is a report from Physicians for Human Rights-Israel:

Out of concern for the repercussions of another military attack and for the wellbeing of numerous potential victims in both Israel and Gaza, we strongly urge you to refrain from further violence, to desist from an attack on the residents of the Gaza strip, and to avoid another operation like "Cast Lead." The safety and welfare of both residents of Gaza and citizens of Israel and Gaza are in your hands.

A sustainable solution to the current conflict rests first and foremost on the understanding that the freedom and safety of the residents of southern Israel are inextricable linked with that of the residents of Gaza.

The past has taught us that military assaults of this kind lead only to further distress. True concern for fate of residents of southern Israel has little to do with another military attack, whose timing, just before elections, raises concern that the lives of residents of Gaza and southern Israel are of little value and have become an empty tool within a cynical political arena. The state's responsibility towards its citizens is not only to embark on a military attack, but also to present a real vision for equality, peace and justice. Sadly, in the absence of such a vision, all that is left is an empty show of force.

Physicians for Human Rights-Israel (PHR-Israel) is a non-profit, non-governmental organization that strives to promote a more fair and inclusive society in which the right to health is applied equally for all. It is PHR-Israel’s view that Israel’s prolonged occupation over Palestinian territory is the basis of human rights violations. For this reason we oppose the occupation and endeavor to put an end to it. PHR-Israel stands at the forefront of the struggle for human rights – the right to health particularly - in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory.

format_quote Originally Posted by islamica

or propaganda like that of malala' shooting will make pak military to attack wazirastan with pressure from the US.

So if this was a propaganda?? Where is the military operation? Has it taken place? The interior ministry has clearly declared that the operation is not an option right now. US will not a favour an operation at this time around as they are trying to pull out in the near future. Any operation in Waziristan will only escalate the insurgency in Afghanistan. When Muslims and Pakistanis open up their eyes and accept that their are INDEED terrorists that claim to be Muslims, that they exist!!! and not everything is a conspiracy, maybe then we will be able to sit down and plan how to get out of this mess that we are in.

format_quote Originally Posted by glo

Here is a report from Physicians for Human Rights-Israel:

yeah that matters- they're bombing homes, schools and mosques and proclaim it's where Hamas hides their weapon - such cowards may Allah swt hasten Israel's demise and bring an end to their tyranny bequeath the land to its rightful owners his righteous servants!

format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed M.

Al-salam 'alaykum sister,

Are you sure about the secularists calling for severing ties? Last I know that they are very against Brother Mursi (May Allah preserve him) and the whole new government there in Egypt.

Also I heard some rumors about Egypt moving tanks into Sinai desert and Israel warning them to pull them out. In sha Allah this is the beginning of the end of Israel like you said, and it's funny how they bring destruction upon themselves. May Allah accept the dead as Shuhada`a and put terror into hearts of enemies of Islam.

But we have to always remember that Allah Jal wa'ala will not change the state of the Ummah until we change ourselves.

Yes akhi,

Even drunks like Amr Musa and brown nosers like el baradi are!
Only person who's upset is the Egyptian ambassador to Israel - he's a disgusting vile piece of crap but no one cares.
The enemies won't slacken inside of Egypt or on the outside but we must stand our ground!
Mursi wouldn't have won if the will of the people wanted differently but as I said liberals and secularists are heavily endorsed and they own much if what matters so they can fashion much if what you read to echo western sensibilities - look at all the change around you and don't be a skeptic just because the khubathaa are loud and vocal doesn't mean they wield any will power they cower under their rocks when push comes to shove!
Now is the time to put your all into du3a for Nasr and fathh in shaa Allah

Salam alaykum

I asked some years ago from Gaza (can´t tell from who) why most your missiles land to empty areas.

Answer was: "We are muslims, we don´t want to kill any innocent civilian. We try to avoid to kill any kid or old or woman. We are not as zionists. We hit only to soldiers. If possible."

Spokesman of Alqassam Brigades told that missiles to "Tel Aviv" Tel-Rabii by its real name were just warning to zionists.

Zionist labels are irrelevant .. as irrelevant as main stream media which is the Zionist mouth piece. Yesterday the 'Israel's warning to terrorists' was the first bit of new so I turned it off!

Al Qasaam brought down an Israeli F-16, no word from the Zionist side yet..

format_quote Originally Posted by شَادِنُ

You're wrong, firstly even though they took hits before it didn't kill them and HizbuAllah even though I despise them engaged in a 21 day war and proved Israel for the non-entity that it is.
Secondly Hamas killed three Israelis with its rockets today, the border with Egypt is now open to them where it was closed before, the Amir of Qatar just gave them a billion, and let's face it, they've been preparing for this for 60+ years.
They're not cowards and martyrdom will happen, but now is the time to rise..

I'm all for patriotism and supporting our fellow brothers and sisters but you also have to be realistic. This resistance is not just about acting on emotion.

I don't question or doubt any of the ayaat of the Qur'aan but let's look at the facts on the ground.

Hizbullaah are much more organized and have better resources than the Palestinians. As a result they were able to inflict much more damage than the Palestinians have done so far.

Ok so Hamas killed 3 Israelis but the Israeli's have killed 25 Palestinians so far including so senior Hamas members?

And how many of the senior Israeli army have they managed to target?

Ok so the Amir of Qatar has pledged his support. That doesn't mean anything. They still need more manpower and support from the other arab countries as well as finances right now. That's one area where they're lacking.

The other area is that they are not very organized. You've got various groups acting independently which are not working together with Hamas. Until they work together they are not going to be a force to be reckoned with.

Strange?

Russia will back Egyptian efforts to end Israeli aggression: Putin

Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country will back Egyptian efforts to put an end to the Israeli aggression in the besieged Gaza Strip.


In a telephone conversation with Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi on Friday, Putin said Russia planned to support Cairo's efforts directed at normalizing the situation in the Palestinian territory, the Kremlin said in a statement.

The remarks come after Egypt’s Prime Minister Hisham Qandil visited the Gaza Strip on Friday, where he urged the world leaders to stop Tel Aviv’s attacks.

Qandil promised to intensify Egypt’s efforts to “stop this aggression and achieve a lasting truce."

On Thursday, President Morsi also condemned the Israeli aggression as "unacceptable" and warned it could lead to instability in the region.

Some 25 people have been killed and more than 160 others injured in the new wave of attacks since November 14.

The Israeli regime frequently carries out airstrikes and other attacks on the Gaza Strip, saying the acts of aggression are being conducted for defensive purposes. However, in violation of international law, disproportionate force is always used and civilians are often killed or injured.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11...-israel-putin/

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa2012

Hizbullaah are much more organized and have better resources than the Palestinians.

They're not, and their heart isn't in the right place. Follow the news now akhi, already they downed an unmanned plane yesterday and an F-16 today. It is time to resit it isn't about who has more what neither is it about 'patriotism' that's nothing to do with it, it is about what is just and right!
You should also read a little about the failed assassination of Mish3il and how the two Zionist pigs were captured. They're full of hot air, enough of this unwarranted fear!

format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset

Strange?

Russia will back Egyptian efforts to end Israeli aggression

Not strange, Russia is fast losing 'allies' in the region it just wants to call dibs on something.. the west is slowly diminishing its grip, Zionists have driven them all to hell mostly in the form of bankruptcy whether ideological or financial!

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa2012

don't have the support of the rest of the Muslim world.

The rest of the Muslim world couldn't care less about Syrian massacres.. let alone this age old conflict. Thousand of fellow Muslims(elderly, women, children) are dead in Syria but do you see any large scale protests in any of the Muslim countries like there were for some stupid cartoons? Nah, screw the killing. We got better things to do like translating some stupid movie into Arabic and then going ape-**** about it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa2012

But right now, they're just not ready for it, not organized enough

True Indeed.

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa2012

Let's see what happens when Israel sends in their ground troops...

They are gonna get a real bad ass whopping, that's what's gonna happen. Primitive rockets vs IDF...it's a no brainer. Yet, there is a side of me hoping for some miracle to happen that these IDFs get a real real bad beat down...Ya Allah, give guidance to both sides and let justice prevail.

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My heart is too broken to send here pictures. I only hope to lay in the darkness!

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa2012

I read about the attempt on Meshaal but that was very close. A bit too close actually. Had it not been for their quick thinking the Israeli's would have been successful.

Wars make men out of boys, you don't know the state of their readiness as I have already stated their rockets reached Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and they downed an F-16 today the only folks who aren't ready are those at home who don't want to be a part of a solution- and I hope you won't join the ranks of the shill cashew!
He can go cower somewhere!