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    Two polio vaccination workers have been killed in north-western Pakistan in the latest of a spate of deadly attacks.

    The shootings in the Peshawar region left a vaccination supervisor and her driver dead, and injured a volunteer.

    The deaths brought to eight the number of health workers killed in this week's anti-polio drive. The three-day drive is now over.

    No group has claimed responsibility, but the Taliban have issued threats against the UN's anti-polio efforts.

    The militants have accused health workers of working as US spies and say the vaccine makes children sterile.

    Pakistan is one of just three countries where the disease is still endemic.

    Coming after five deaths on Tuesday, and one on Monday, the UN children's agency Unicef and the World Health Organisation halted work in Sindh province in the south and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the north-west on Tuesday. The suspension was extended nationwide on Wednesday.
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    My father contracted polio as a young man and remained wheelchair dependent for the rest of his life. We are so close to eradicating the polio virus completely, so this is a real set-back!
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    I read at this morning from my local newspaper this same news. Also from that newspaper I read that last year polio paralyzed at least 200 children in Pakistan.

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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    Hmmm.....this is going to be interesting - a topic on vaccinations and the taliban in one, on this forum...... Oh boy!

    Im sitting this one out.

    Thanks for sharing Glo : )
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    I was gonna share this myself. What a shame... media is to be blamed too for sensationalizing the CIA vaccination method and making this already brainwashed scum of a people even more paranoid.
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    Now more lives will be scarred as we can't agree on how to deal with these Jihadis
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    Were they same whose shoot a girl to head because she wanted to study? And now same whose think it is better that children (and adults too) die or paralyze by polio than get vaccination by some strange conspiracy theory from CIA?

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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    Were they the same who shot a girl in the head because she wanted to study?
    Most likely..
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    There are pros and cons in the Muslim communities for halal status of polio vaccine. This is because of the Trypsin (enzyme pig) used in the vaccine manufacturing process.

    This is explanation of polio vaccine making process by dr.Novilia Sjafri Bachtiar from Biofarma[*]

    1. Trypsin is not material for the vaccine, but for cell harvest used for viral media. Trypsin is material to release cells from the media where virus attached.

    2. Trypsin removed, there is also a washing process, and then the process of dissolution with water in very large numbers.

    3. In the final product was not found elements of trypsin.

    So, is polio vaccine halal? or haram?.

    Regarding to this matter, Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) has issued a fatwa that polio vaccine is allowed to be used because currently there is no other vaccine which does not use material from pig. (with note: when "Trypsin-free" polio vaccine has been invented, this "trypsin-use" vaccine becomes haram).

    MUI allow this polio vaccine using based on "law of emergency situation", which this vaccination program is very important to save the children from polio.

    Ulema in other Muslim-majority countries have issued similar fatwa too, including ulema in Saudi Arabia. But unfortunately, there are local mullah in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nigeria who refuse those fatawa and forbid people to receive polio vaccination.

    [*]Biofarma is Indonesian government-own vaccine manufacturer, located in Bandung city. This is one of only 28 vaccines manufacturers in the world that listed in WHO prequalified list. Biofarma is the only polio vaccines manufacturers (in WHO prequalified list) which located in Muslim-majority country.
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    World Polio Map 1988-2012

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    Look at the 2012 Map. There are only three countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nigeria.
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    World Polio Map 1988-2012

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    Look at the 2012 Map. There are only three countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nigeria.
    The Polio Programme achieved all that in the space of 24 years? That's amazing!
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    There are pros and cons in the Muslim communities
    It isn't a question of Halal or Haram, many of the harmful material are removed out of vaccines or at least an effort is made to do so. Also even in the rare cases of egg allergies and the likes it is recommended that the vaccine is given anyway & watchful waiting to any side effects that ensue as it is better to treat an allergy than a disease as a result of a missed vaccine ..
    That being said, this is a political issue not a health related one. I think Pakistan best answers that question as to why they've to import foreign vaccines and foreign workers to administer them many who aren't health care workers at all. Please read the 'stealth crusade' ..
    I'll go so far to say to Sr. Zaria that the first successful heart transplant took place in south Africa and if she knows of the reasons why it would shed some light as to why some folks are hesitant to have their children be the subject of such vaccines.

    A country that doesn't make its own weapons, plant its own food and fosters its own industry will unfortunately sacrifice its children and its dignity and always kowtow and be dependent on foreign nations who haven't the best intentions.

    Already evil is spewed from their tongues and what their hearts hide is even worse!

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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    I support vaccinations but this is one incident where I am happy. I have empathies for the children paralyzed by polio but that has nothing to do with vaccine, they would have been paralyzed anyway because vaccine was not available then and such was God's will.

    The fact US was able to run a fake vaccination program to attack a country, some sort of repercussions should be experienced by its citizens. It is sad that children have to be the ones experiencing these repercussions but so be it.
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos View Post
    IThe fact US was able to run a fake vaccination program to attack a country, some sort of repercussions should be experienced by its citizens. It is sad that children have to be the ones experiencing these repercussions but so be it.
    One more conspiracy theory? USA wants to kill äll muslims by false vaccination?

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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

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    One more conspiracy theory? USA wants to kill äll muslims by false vaccination?

    I don't think that USA wants to kill all Muslims by false vaccination. But in fact CIA ran fake vaccination program to search Bin Laden. They were success, but innocent health workers bear the consequence. Now there are people in pakistan who see this polio vaccination program with suspicion and suspect that health workers are working for CIA.
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    But in fact CIA ran fake vaccination program to search Bin Laden. They were success, but innocent health workers bear the consequence. Now there are people in pakistan who see this polio vaccination program with suspicion and suspect that health workers are working for CIA.
    That was a very damaging thing to do! It has completely undermined the good work this health programme is trying to achieve. Stupid and infuriating!!
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    Another thing might be interesting for you to know that the quality of the vaccine is corrupt and most people dont trust it.Only those who can't afford private vaccination,allow them to vaccinate their kid with this.The vaccines require a specific temperature to keep in and there are workers having vaccines in bottles full of water,unaware of health requirements,vaccinate tiny creatures.My niece got this vaccination and she fall ill and we spent thousands of rupees on her health.Polio took 200 lives last year and other diseases specially Pneumonia took thousands of lives here but nobody gave any importance to such issues before.Thanks to Taliban who kill people in such a fashion that raise important issues on International level and people killing is not a big deal here,hundreds get killed daily and no one feel their pain or even notice they were humans or animals.
    Leaving aside conspiracy theory,this vaccine is itself a reason of so many diseases.Took several lives in India as well and Doctors are suspicious about this oral polio vaccine used in SA.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion View Post
    about this oral polio vaccine used in SA.
    Polio is supposed to be oral since polio affects the Gi tract and is an oral/fecal type transmission.. they changed it to accommodate HIV patients obviously, it is meant for IgA type immunity not IgG, but that is a story for another day and another time. Not many people know about microbio nor immunology especially those mouthing about conspiracy theories or display expertise on foreign countries socio/economic and geopolitical plights- but what can we do?
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    Yup,i dearly wish people have have some knowledge about the condition here and have a unbiased,media free view using their heads and then speak about Pakistan.This Taliban behind everything bad even Ehsanullah Ehsan responsible for my over spiced curry made me sick now.I always thought of staying away from such topics but then i thought i better give them the correct knowledge and then everyone is free to decide where to go.Sigh
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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion View Post
    Leaving aside conspiracy theory,this vaccine is itself a reason of so many diseases.Took several lives in India as well and Doctors are suspicious about this oral polio vaccine used in SA.
    Oral polio vaccine (OPV) that used in India actually were coming from Indonesia, at least until early of 2012. However, different than OPV that used in Indonesia which processed by Biofarma since first stage until finish, OPV that exported to India were in half-finished condition. It's because Indian govt wanted finishing process done by Indian companies. But problem happen after two Indian companies failed to fulfill standard of processing. WHO has ordered Biofarma to stop half-finished polio vaccine export to India.

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    Re: Polio programme put on hold in Pakistan

    It comes from USA.
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