Stella Tremblay, New Hampshire Legislator, Says U.S. Government Planned Boston Bombing
A Republican state legislator in New Hampshire is claiming that the United States government is responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing.
State Rep. Stella Tremblay (R-Auburn) posted on conservative talk show host Glenn Beck's Facebook page Friday that the attack and the subsequent search for suspects was playing out how Beck had suggested. She said the bombings were a plot by the federal government, and included a link to a video from another conservative talk show host Alex Jones, in which Jones also claims the federal government planned the bombing. Tremblay's message to Beck was posted Friday morning, before suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was arrested.
Just as you said would happen. Top Down, Bottom UP. The Boston Marathon was a Black Ops "terrorist" attack. One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak. Drones and now "terrorist" attacks by our own Government. Sad day, but a "wake up" to all of us. First there was a "suspect" then there wasnt. Infowars broke the story and they knew they had been "found out".
Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Reportedly Unarmed When Arrested In Boat, Officials Say
WASHINGTON -- Two U.S. officials say the surviving suspect in the Boston bombings was unarmed when police captured him hiding inside a boat in a neighborhood back yard.
Authorities originally said they had exchanged gunfire with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (joh-KHAHR' tsahr-NEYE'-ehv) for more than one hour Friday evening before they were able to subdue him.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation, say investigators recovered a 9 mm handgun believed to have been used by Tsarnaev's brother, Tamerlan, from the site of a gun battle Thursday night, which injured a Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority officer. Dzhokhar was believed to have been shot before he escaped.
An unnamed whistle blower has come out and said the following... "They're going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he's unstable. They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn't be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events."
#FreeJahar Campaign Shows Social Media Support for Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Not everyone believes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a terrorist.
Despite seemingly overwhelming evidence pointing toward his involvement in the Boston Marathon attack a week ago, there is a group of people who know Tsarnaev who are remaining loyal to the 19-year-old. The Internet has expanded that group into those who don't know Tsarnaev but are nonetheless supportive, whether sympathetic or inspired by other messages.
Anzor Tsarnaev, Dzhokhar's father, said in an interview that his sons were "set up" and they are "very nice kids" with no experience with weapons or explosives. Zubeidat Tsarnaev, Dzhokhar's mother, added, "I am really, really, really telling you this is a set-up."
Others who knew Dzhokhar have described him as a "sweet guy," a "lovely kid," and a "wonderful kid." His wrestling coach has said he's "dedicated' and "all the kids loved him." One friend posted a video of Dzhokhar goofing off like any other teenager and writes, "This is the Jahar I knew." Even a look through his tweets show plenty of posts you'd expect from a 19-year-old, with little evidence that he carried out the bombing.
On social media, support has caused #FreeJahar to trend on Twitter and photos of support to be shared on Facebook and Instagram. Wired calls the #FreeJahar campaign "a mix of conspiracy theories, sympathy for Tsarnaev and skepticism of the official narrative surrounding the 19-year-old's arrest." The Verge notes that for every message supporting Dzhokhar, "there's a user expressing vitriolic disgust that Tsarnaev supporters exist."
One tweet, according to The Blaze, but it seems it has since been deleted, reads, "#FreeJahar is trending.. i've been doing research literally all day and i do think there's a big chance he's innocent."
A closer look at who Dzhokhar follows on Twitter is also interesting to get a better picture of his support. First, it must be noted that he was seen following 109 users when his account first surfaced.
It's now following 95, as of this writing, so that means 14 users have blocked him on Twitter or deleted their accounts -- perhaps not wanting to be associated with him after the bombing or to deflect attention that many of those he's following are getting.
Numerous people he follows have been seen switching their accounts from public to private to protect their tweets. Some have indeed deleted their accounts altogether.
Many of those he follows who still have publicly-accessible tweets have been vocal in their support for Dzhokhar on Twitter, including Kid_Wavyy who Dzhohar has interacted with more on Twitter than anybody else (31 replies) per a HuffPost analysis of his tweets:
the only story that will make it, is the story they'll put out and it doesn't matter if it isn't the truth.. what matters is that whatever is right is always marred so much so that no one can tell the difference
As much as I can't help but be skeptical (again this was sheerly inevitable) I must say, I'd much rather this be the public's attitude than, "Kill him, kill the filthy Muslim now and let us watch his blood hit the floor!" Their sympathy, or their distraction, or even as it may be a different kind of prejudice, may do well to divert them from the path of anti-Islamic prejudice against innocent people like us who did not participate in this crime. In any event this might mean that there will largely be a shift of focus in the media from the usual "knock Muslims without coming right out and saying it" routine. As much as I sometimes marvel (perhaps seethe) over how soullessly the media (most namely the news media) will just shift right onto any track they think is marketable I do sometimes forget that almost as often as not this fact turns out by chance to be advantageous.
Peace be to any prophets I may have mentioned above. Praised and exalted be my Maker, if I have mentioned Him. (Come to think of it praise Him anyway.)
There is clearly an agenda going on. Whether or not the suspects are guilty and whether or not this attack was a U.S. government inside job, the portrayal of the attack is being done as a deliberate war on Islam and Muslims. I've come across dozens of news articles now that keep focusing on the fact that the suspect's mother and wife wear hijab, that the wife is a revert, that she changed her name, and that a variety of these people became "radicalized." If it is true that the suspect's wife legally changed her name, why does the media keep referring to her by her previous name? These articles refer to how "normal" she dressed and acted referencing Western clothing and her going to nightclubs and then refer to her being "covered from head to toe" and not drinking, smoking, etc. as if this is somehow not normal. I know exactly why they keep referring to her by her old name. They do not want to accept the legitimacy of someone converting to Islam and adopting an Islamic lifestyle. It is a complete negation of Islam, Islamic culture, religion, and way of life as something that could be seen as valid.
This further confirms what I've been noticing for a long time only that I am concerned it is getting worse. The media, government, employers, schools, the public, etc. in the United States and much of the West have an unhealthy obsession over women wearing headscarves (particularly when the wearer is Muslim) and Islamic values in general. I think there is a cultural war being waged that goes far beyond reporting what criminals have done (if these suspects are guilty). Western capitalism does everything it can to dumb down the public, corrupt women by hypersexualizing their bodies, and secularizing and watering down religion, spirituality, and values because it is easier and farther reaching to market products that way and control people. Perhaps they see Islam as standing in the way. Insha'Allah we can all continue to grow as Muslims and be stronger in imaan and practice including for new reverts such as myself growing by learning as much as we can about Islam, its values, and way of life. This agenda of hatred and bigotry by those wanting to destroy Islam and Muslims only wants to make me become a better Muslimah every day.
It's really strange how the people that tell us we are all stupid to trust mainstream media, and not ask questions, are often the same people who ask no questions at all about nonsense they find on the internet. I think this story is one of the least convincing of all conspiracy theories. This is why:
Qui bono?
A question that is always asked about these events is ‘qui bono’ – who benefits? In most cases there are a wide and totally incompatible set of alternatives offered, depending on your own prejudice or political loyalty. This alone should tell you that the supposed motivations aren’t worth much.
One of the people who always benefits is Alex Jones, source of this latest conspiracy theory. This is his JOB. He is a PROFESSIONAL conspiracy theorist. He will ALWAYS say it’s a conspiracy at every single terrorist incident. In the case of Boston, he began making up theories immediately the story broke, before he knew a thing about it. This is making him WEALTHY.
As it stands, the Boston bomb doesn’t lead to any obvious policy change for anyone. It doesn’t provide an excuse to attack another country. It doesn’t have anything to do with gun control. Islam already has a negative image in this respect so it doesn’t make a material difference to that either. As a false flag op, it doesn’t go anywhere.
Who were the security personnel?
It is said that the pictures of guys wearing hats with a skull work for Craft International, a private security firm. This has been debunked repeatedly in the media but persists. Craft is a training company with only a few trainers on the payroll. It does not provide security personnel to anyone. At the end of the course you get a free hat which people continue to wear afterwards because they think it looks ‘cool’.
Want to be part of the next conspiracy? Just order your own genuine Craft international hat now at http://co-store.com/craftgear. You don’t even have to do the course.
Unnamed whistle blower
The first thing to say here is of course that this is worthless. Anyone can post an anonymous claim like this and say anything. Why waste time posting this? With regard to the specific claim – it’s not even correct. He says there was to be one bomber, but there were two. The details of what they discovered don’t tally. Plainly, this post was invented by someone who thought this would turn out to be a patriot plot, before the Muslim link was discovered, and that the objective was a limitation on firearms. This flatly contradicts what Alex Jones is saying, who you also quote as if he’s for real.
Sandy Hook connection
This claims to be a screengrab of an interview with Dawn Hocksprung, the deceased Principal of Sandy Hook school. Plainly it is the same photograph on either side so I’m not sure what it tells us, apart from someone is using photoshop or it’s a newsroom mistake.
The successor to Dawn at Sandy Hook is a lady called Donna Page. Notice that the name in the picture is also Donna. It’s possible that they mixed up the old picture with the new person.
If this really was the conspiracy it’s supposed to be, they would not be so breath-takingly stupid as to allow one of their Sandy Hook fake victims to be interviewed on tv.
Parents say the bombers were good kids
I’m sorry, but this counts for nothing. They wouldn’t be the first parents in the world that refused to accept their kids had committed a crime.
Stella Tremblay
Her claim is wrong already. The second suspect is not dead, he is in custody and talking (or writing, as he was injured in the neck). So it didn’t happen ‘just as Alex Jones said’.
Perhaps you didn’t read the rest of the Huffington Post link – they obviously think Stella Tremblay is a nutjob: “Last October, Tremblay sent an email to the other 399 state House members with a doctored video she claimed depicted President Barack Obama saying that he was not born in the United States. She said the video was sufficient proof to open an investigation into Obama's citizenship. In February, Tremblay told a legislative committee that former President Woodrow Wilson agree with Adolf Hitler, even though Wilson died before Hitler rose to power”.
Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Reportedly Unarmed When Arrested In Boat, Officials Say
Congratulations, this actually seems to be correct and it’s part of the official account now. One shot was fired and that set everybody else off for an hour. So what?
Conspiracy theories in general
Unfortunately, conspiracy theories are now part of our lives and there will never be another major incident without this kind of rubbish. According to these theories, there has never been a major terrorist incident in the States. Ever. They’re all fake.
With each new incident it becomes more and more incredible that anyone could pull this off without getting caught. Maybe you might just think it’s possible once or twice, but not for all of them.
The real difference in recent years is 24 hour live media. It’s in the nature of this media that they will make any number of mistakes and false leads along the way. They have to find something new to say all day long. They also make mistakes about other non controversial incidents, but nobody’s interested in those so they don’t get mentioned.
The other difference is where we’re talking now – the internet. The internet has brought us many wonderful things. Unfortunately, it has also brought us Alex Jones.
The surviving suspect in the Boston marathon bombings may never be able to speak to the FBI after suffering a gunshot wound to his throat and tongue.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who was also shot in the leg, is under guard and handcuffed to the bed in hospital where he is in a “very serious” condition, sedated and connected to a breathing tube.
Tom Menino, the Boston mayor, said: “We don’t know if we’ll ever be able to question the individual.”
Police are unsure whether they inflicted the throat wound or if Dzhokhar shot himself by putting a gun in his mouth as he hid in a boat in a suburban garden during a day-long manhunt.
Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis said: "It's hard to know how he received that injury. That's being looked into."
Police said that Dzhokhar and his brother 26-year-old brother Tamerlan – who was killed in a shootout a day earlier – had been arming themselves for “further attacks” when they were found.
Chief Deveau also disclosed dramatic details of the shoot-out, in which Tamerlan was killed, and revealed how, in the chaos, his death was caused by Dzhokhar.
[I thought they said he was unarmed? ]
A single officer was first to encounter the fugitives at 12.30am local time on Friday in a residential street in Watertown, a suburb of Boston.
They were in two separate vehicles, including a four-wheel-drive Mercedes they had carjacked.
Chief Deveau said: “They jump out of the cars and unload on our police officer. They both came out shooting. Shooting guns, handguns. He’s under direct fire, very close by.
“He has to jam it in reverse and try to get himself a little distance.”
As five other officers arrived, 200 shots were fired in 10 minutes. One of the brothers threw exploding devices including a pressure cooker bomb which landed on a car.
Tamerlan then broke cover and walked directly at officers firing a gun. The police chief said: “They were having a gunfight 10 feet apart. And then for us, thank God, he ran out of ammunition. He runs out of ammunition, the bad guy, and so one of my police officers comes off the side and tackles him in the street.”
As they tried to handcuff him, Dzhokhar drove the Mercedes straight at them but missed the police, hitting his own brother and dragging him 20ft before racing off.
[Given their credibility, we are going to believe them in that he killed his own brother? ]
Chief Deveau said: “The officers dive out of the way and he (Dzhokhar) drives over his brother and drags him a short distance down the street.”
Doctors said Tamerlan had injuries “head to toe”. There were so many they did not know which one had killed him.
The brothers were found to have had six improvised explosive devices including a satchel bomb, handguns, a rifle, 250 rounds of ammunition, and home-made grenades.
Dzhokhar dumped the Mercedes a few streets away.
Nineteen hours later, he was found bloodied and hiding underneath a tarpaulin in the boat in the back yard of David Henneberry’s home.
Stark images from a thermal imaging camera on a helicopter showed him lying inside the boat. Police used a robot to remove the tarpaulin and threw in flash bombs.
A negotiator on the second floor of the house, looking down on the boat, successfully talked Dzhokhar out after 30 minutes.
When I saw the focus on the radicalized wife whose story isn't convincing btw not sure why she wears a veil even her husband seemed like a party dude whom I personally doubt was able at all to make prayers- girl next door to brain washed terrorist I just turn off the news or switch to something else. So sick of their crap to the point of complete aversion. I suggest you guys do the same bottom line is always a dollar don't boost their rating by watching their manure.
Why are you continuing to post unsubstantiated rumours, some of which are already out of date? Why do you question every detail of the official account but nothing from Alex Jones et al, even though they have contradicted each other and altered their stories in all directions? If the official story contained 10% of the lies that Alex Jones has already put out you would be all over them.
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Tom Menino, the Boston mayor, said: “We don’t know if we’ll ever be able to question the individual.”
This report dates from the 21st. He can't talk, he has a neck wound. But he can write and nod/shake head. He has already answered some questions (including 'can you afford a lawyer').
format_quote Originally Posted by islamica
[I thought they said he was unarmed? ]
This has also been covered in the media. When he was hiding, they assumed he was still armed and that he had shot at them from the boat (a mistake, but hardly a surprising one). When he was arrested they found he had not carried any weapon with him from the car chase. So what? No inconsistency here.
As for the blood, it is impossible to see clearly enough in those pics. We already know he's been through a major shoot out anyway. What would be the point of injuring him later but not enough to kill him? None at all. If they wanted him dead, as many conspiracy theorists incorrectly predicted, he would be dead.
Why are you continuing to post unsubstantiated rumours, some of which are already out of date? Why do you question every detail of the official account but nothing from Alex Jones et al, even though they have contradicted each other and altered their stories in all directions? If the official story contained 10% of the lies that Alex Jones has already put out you would be all over them.
These "unsubstantiated rumours" are news stories and someone QUESTIONING the "status quo" of them. Alex jones is one among many who have their viewpoints, he is not the be all and end all source of information. I'm presenting information contrary to the "statue quo" version. We already know how legit 9-11 and other previous "terrorist attacks" were, but all those experts in their receptive fields (engineers, physicists, fire experts, etc) who don't sing the same tune are "nut job" and "conspirators". As for the media and the government, we all know how credible they are with their lies of WMD in order invade a nation, among other things. So you'll have to excuse me if I don't quite agree to your continuous efforts to rebuke and label as "conspiracy" anything that is contrary to the "status quo".
As I said before, the Zionist media cannot be trusted. Government/s cannot be trusted.
They have their own agendas.
Muslims are not the ones that Westerners have only to be worried about.
Don't believe a word of what is reported in the media until you have read about any given story from a number of different independent sources and sources you personally trust.
This whole thing is starting to look like something created right out of Hollywood with special effects and all.
Look at the pictures.
They have all the hallmarks of a cover up just like 9..
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Just about anything is a news story if someone's prepared to say it.
format_quote Originally Posted by islamica
I'm presenting information contrary to the "statue quo" version.
Come off it. At this stage, conspiracy theories are every bit as 'establishment' or status quo as anything the mainstream media or the Government say (especially in forums like this one). What really would be radical would be if Alex Jones etc came out and said that this was not a false flag op. That really would be amazing.
But hey, he has an income to maintain...
format_quote Originally Posted by islamica
all those experts in their receptive fields
It's amazing how often these 'experts' are not experts in a relevant field. (eg David Ray Griffin of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is actually a Professor of Religion - which explains a lot). The world is a big place and you will find someone prepared to say just about anything if you look hard enough.
Answer me this: why is the US the only country in the world that's immune to terrorist attacks? The CIA must be amazing. They are the best intelligence agency in the world, they stop everyone (except themselves).
Found a bit more about the blood on the boat also from CNN - the boat owner says the blood was inside, not outside - he was just going to his boat anyway, it wasn't the blood that made him look:
Don't believe a word of what is reported in the media until you have read about any given story from a number of different independent sources and sources you personally trust.
This whole thing is starting to look like something created right out of Hollywood with special effects and all.
Look at the pictures.
They have all the hallmarks of a cover up just like 9..
wa'alaikum as'salaam,
an interesting khutbah i heard recently, the imam said the same thing about blindly listening and forwarding everything coming to you vs verifying what comes to you and question everything and think for yourself. Some points he raised were:
“O you who believe! If a Faasiq (liar — evil person) comes to you with any news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done”
[al-Hujuraat 49:6]
The Lawgiver issued a stern warning against passing on all that one hears. It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is enough sin for a man to speak of everything that he hears.” Al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2025.
Al-Nawawi said: Usually a person hears truth and lies, so if he speaks of everything that he hears, he is lying by telling of things that did not happen, and lying by speaking of something other than the way it happened; and he does not have to do that deliberately (in order to be regarded as telling lies).
and propaganda of certain agencies, organizations and media to show Islam and Muslims in a certain light as well as promote some agendas as a result of these events.
Reminds me of this....
format_quote Originally Posted by Independent
Answer me this: why is the US the only country in the world that's immune to terrorist attacks? The CIA must be amazing. They are the best intelligence agency in the world, they stop everyone (except themselves).
Found a bit more about the blood on the boat also from CNN - the boat owner says the blood was inside, not outside - he was just going to his boat anyway, it wasn't the blood that made him look:
Something’s Rotten in Boston Who’s Investigating the FBI Investigators?
format_quote Originally Posted by islamica
Ted Gunderson Former FBI Chief - Most Terror Attacks Are Committed By Our own FBI & CIA
These links don't answer my question. How can the US be totally immune to terrorist attack (except its own internal ops)? Why is no one in the world even trying to attack them?
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