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    The Islamic State - What is it?

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    In several discussions in this forum the relationship between politics and Islam has come up. A frequent idea that has been mentioned is that Muslims cannot separate their religious identity from their political views and thus any Muslim who advocates politics not based on Islam is an apostate. This may or may not be a valid interpretation of Islam, I cannot say. But what really interests me is what sort of political system Islam advocates. Several people have said that Islam is incompatible with democracy. What I am curious is what an Islam based political system would be. So far no one has bothered to explain what it is to me.
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    democracy is but a way, the system is a completely different story.. can you discuss communism in a paragraph? how about socialism, how about capitalism? Islam is a system based on justice but it is all encompassing and has multiple facets I'd think if you were to focus on two of those politics and economic and perhaps social structure in islam it would be a good start. There are plenty of books on the topic and the one I recommended to you yesterday is what you should start with, especially that's written by a non-muslim! anything otherwise will be superficial!
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    I am interesting to know more about this matter too. Like in some islam-majority countries, where islamic movements have took part to the democratic elections they and their supporters go to vote but at the same time claim that voting and elections (democratic ones) are un-islamic.

    Something with this logic doesn´t make sense.
    The Islamic State - What is it?

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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    like I said democracy as in choosing your leaders is OK like mobay3a in islam, adopting a western system and constitution isn't - You'll be glad to add to your knowledge that those who removed the democratic system aren't in fact the Islamists but the coupist and the former regime with full fledged vengeance! the very conservative Islamists not the MB who are painted as something they're completely not, are using this as an example to showcase both western hypocrisy since democracy is something they like to tote only when it brings the system they desire.. as such it doesn't matter to them if the system in place comes under heading of dictatorship or democracy or socialism or montezuma's revenge just so long as the system in the ME which is very oppressive doesn't change. They don't care for their pal Mubark who they fed for 30+ yrs and they don't care for sissy or even Umar Suliman if those idiots only knew.. and they'd be the first to give them the axe so long as someone else comes in place to do the same thing.. now if you don't know about the socio economic or geo political situation in Egypt as that is a whole other topic specifically Mursi's desire to expans the Suez Canal project which would make Egypt able to pay its debt in a decade or so when Emirates is siphoning money for a fake port because they'd spent most of their money on american ***** actresses and need something else to sustain their worthless high towered buildings.. this is very expansive topic and doesn't hover I assure you around the bubble gum conversation that seems to always be going on a vacillation between nonsense that has nothing at all to do with the deep ecoomic, and geo political issues surrounding the country.. easiest thing anyone can say is pray for peace, women's rights and some other absurd slogans that have nothing to do with reality or the reality on Egyptian grounds!
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    Salam alaykum

    Could we discuss about this matter of "what is islamic state" in general? I think here is already enough threads about Egypt matters.
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    and I have already referenced the gentleman to a book surely governing the state is a political/judicial religious matter with multiple branches and too deep to discuss here!
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    Salam alaykum

    If those matters are too deep to discuss in here... could someone be able to give even a short summary about the basics? In general please.
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    Re: The Islamic State - What is it?

    There is actually a 'sticky' thread on this in the currently closed 'World Affairs' section: http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...-analysis.html
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