Trump suspends refugee program adds stricter rule for Muslim country travels.

format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb

And what after 2 months? Another 2 months? Nobody knows.

After 2 months, Trump will tell his base that he kept his campaign promise, which is not as true as it possibly could be but is still more true than most people ever gave him credit for. Let's not lose sight of that. This is what it's really about.

Salaam

Another update

United Arab Emirates ‘Backs’ Trump’s ‘Muslim Ban’

UAE foreign minister Abdullah bin Zayed said on Wednesday that President Donald Trump’s travel ban on 7 majority Muslim countries was an “internal affair” and not directed at any religion.

Trump’s executive order, titled “Protection Of The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States,” bans nationals from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen from entry into the United States for the next 90 days and coincides with a pause in the the admission of all refugees to the U.S. for the next four months.

The executive order has sparked protests around the world.

However, according to Reuters, while speaking at a joint news conference with Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov in Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Abdullah said, “The United States has taken a decision that is within the American sovereign decision… There are attempts to give the impression that this decision is directed against a particular religion, but what proves this talk to be incorrect first is what the U.S. administration itself says… that this decision is not directed at a certain religion… If the aim behind these areas is humanitarian and temporary and under an international umbrella, I think this is a basis we can work on.”

Sheikh Abdullah added that a majority of Muslim countries were not included in the ban. According to the Pew Research Center in 2010, there were 49 Muslim-majority countries, making the ban affect about 14% of the world’s Muslim population.

Homeland Security officials claimed the same sentiments earlier Tuesday. At a news conference, Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said the order imposes a “temporary pause” as the government “assess the strengths and the weaknesses of our current system,” reports NPR. Kelly repeatedly stated that the ban was not on Muslims, but on certain countries.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/united-arab-emirates-uae-supports-backs-donald-trump-muslim-ban-executive-order-united-states-immigration/

format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H

Probably one of the biggest genocides known to man, was against the native American Indians, and over many decades.

Eric

The Genocide of the Native Americans (not Indians) was about 150 million of them over a 100 year span. That is the 2nd biggest genocide known to man.

The biggest Genocide known to man is that of India subcontinent by the British. In over a span of 200 year occupation, they killed over 1.8 billion natives.

format_quote Originally Posted by Karl

P.S the natives were no angels. They were conquering and killing each other for thousands of years before the WASPs showed up.

The europeans were killing each other for thousand of years as well as other natives of other region. Empires rose and fell throughout history but no one nation went to another nation to conquer and genocide them and took over their land. They conquered and ruled over the nations. This is what sets the WASPS apart from rest of the world.

format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.

i kinda agree with the idea.

...and yet it is THE example of how a rational and sensible idea can be twisted by the one who implements it.

i hope i dont have to explain myself.

the next step should be to allow immigrants back into the states after being carefully vetted..

but i have no idea?

..dont know what will happen about the refugees.

..just corden off detroit or something.

From everything I've been told, existing US policy already involved extreme vetting that has worked quite well. I've also been led to understand that anyone who doesn't think of existing policy as extreme vetting, probably doesn't know what that vetting process entails.

What's currently happening (the temporary stoppage) helps no one except maybe Trump, and it doesn't serve any strategic goal in terms of foreign policy. It does serve to fulfill a campaign promise, and as far as I can tell that is the only purpose that it is meant to serve.

As for Detroit, I don't think that's anyone's idea of a good place for a bunch of refugees to go. From what I've seen and heard, the best places have been well-off micropolitan areas. Small cities and towns in Utah, Nebraska, and Colorado with names you've probably never heard of where it's not extremely urban, cost of living is low, and unemployment is not an issue. Those types of places seem to have been the best fit quality of life, both culturally and in terms of money and jobs.

soooooo.... bunp maybe.

format_quote Originally Posted by Karl

P.S the natives were no angels. They were conquering and killing each other for thousands of years before the WASPs showed up.

Said every apologist for ethnic cleansing ever.

format_quote Originally Posted by aaj

The Genocide of the Native Americans (not Indians) was about 150 million of them over a 100 year span. That is the 2nd biggest genocide known to man.

The biggest Genocide known to man is that of India subcontinent by the British. In over a span of 200 year occupation, they killed over 1.8 billion natives.

Wow! And India is still over crowded. If I was black (whether Indian or African) I would have serious second thoughts about going to Britain!

format_quote Originally Posted by noraina

I once went to the US when I younger, obviously way before Donald Trump and all that - and I remember the racism there against Muslims was pretty bad anyway, the way the officials behaved with my parents was intimidating and with absolutely no basis, so much that I never wanted to go back.

And as brother @Eric H has said, the genocide of the Native Americans....it's sickening to think about it, and now everyone mentions how regrettable it was. And when those Jewish people who went to America seeking refuge were turned back, only to die terrible deaths in Europe, and now everyone regrets it. And when Muslims are so openly discriminated against, people will only 'officially' regret it 50 years later when the damage has been long done.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Everybody regrets it? I would say most Americans are apathetic about it. Besides Jewish plutocrats had a lot of influence in the USA by that time. The Jews were turned away because they were poor.