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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Here, take the archived version: https://archive.fo/647Op
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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    inna lilahi wainna ilaihi rajiuoon.
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    Salaam

    more info

    UAE Special Forces took part in deadly attack on Yemen, says US official

    An American official revealed on Tuesday that Special Forces from the UAE took part in the attack in Yemen last Sunday which caused dozens of casualties, CNN has reported. The US-led operation in the Yakla area of Al-Baydaa province resulted in 30 Yemenis being killed, including at least 16 women and children, said local sources.

    Meanwhile, the Pentagon said on Monday that US Special Forces were surprised to find several women fighting for Al-Qaeda when they carried out the attack, which was allegedly intended to collect intelligence about the extremist group.

    A spokesman for the US Secretary of Defence said that many female combatants took part in the firefight. “While the operation was going on, we saw women fighters running towards prearranged positon as if they had been trained to fight against us,” he explained. The Americans claim that 14 Al-Qaeda fighters were killed in the operation.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170202-uae-special-forces-took-part-in-deadly-attack-on-yemen-says-us-official/

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Salaam

    An opinion piece

    Kill our kids, then call us terrorists

    The past week has given us yet another insight into how Western powers habitually devalue Muslim lives. Here, I am not necessarily talking about US President Donald Trump’s controversial immigration freeze, dubbed a “Muslim Ban” due to the countries it targets. What Trump is doing is a symptom of a far worse disease – that of the dehumanisation of Muslim lives, particularly those living in Muslim-majority countries.

    Are US soldiers worth more than kids?

    In a news story that was almost universally ignored or swiftly brushed under the rug by the mainstream media in the West, we learned that US Navy SEALs bungled their way into Yakla in Yemen over the weekend, killing at least 16 Yemeni civilians, most of whom were women and children. Had we been paying close attention, we would have also learnt that they then proceeded to shoot an eight-year-old girl in the neck, and leave her to bleed slowly and excruciatingly to death for two hours.

    Little Nawar Al-Awlaki was not the first child in her family to be killed by US military action. In 2011, and two weeks after his father, cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki, was killed in a drone strike, her then-16-year-old brother Abdulrahman had his young life snuffed out by another unmanned aerial death machine that regularly blights Yemen’s skies, and Yemenis’ lives.

    Both of these children were US citizens, killed by the armed forces of their own government, forces that are supposed to protect them. US forces are also obliged to follow international laws of war, and children, whatever their nationality, can never be legitimate targets. Regarding Abdulrahman, the US government ignored the matter of his assassination for ages before eventually saying that he was not the intended target, and brushed him off as “collateral damage”. Nawar has not even received acknowledgement that she was so brutally killed by the White House.

    Instead, Trump released a statement that mourned the loss of one of the SEALs who was involved in the botched operation. “Americans are saddened this morning with news that a life of a heroic service member has been taken in our fight against the evil of radical Islamic terrorism,” Trump said, seemingly oblivious to the fact that a little girl being shot in the neck by gung-ho military operatives is right down there at Satan-levels of evil.

    Even a quick scan of the press will show that pretty much all the major outlets did not even deign to mention the fact that a beautiful little girl was killed by her country’s own armed forces. This is even if they considered her as only “collateral damage”, not that the White House or the Pentagon has said even that. Instead, we get statements from Trump and other Pentagon officials lionising the raid, hailing it as a success and lamenting the loss of one of the soldiers who seemingly gave their life so that an eight-year-old girl could be blasted in the throat at close-range.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170131-kill-our-kids-then-call-us-terrorists/

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Salaam

    Another comment piece.

    The killing of Nawar al Awlaki: If banning Yemenis from the US sparks outrage, killing their children should too

    Last Sunday, in the midst of inspiring protests against Trump’s Muslim ban across the US, the angelic face of Nawar al Awlaki emerged on social media.

    Her radiant smile contrasted with the stark news that accompanied the picture: the 8 year-old had just been killed by an American commando in Yemen.

    The deadly dawn raid was conducted by the US Navy SEAL team, already known to have executed wedding party massacres, beheadings, mutilations, and other atrocities across Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The main target was seemingly to seize computer materials, but the operation rapidly turned into a bloodbath.

    Local sources reported that 59 people were killed, including women and children.

    Nawar’s grandfather, former minister of Agriculture Nasser al Awlaki, described how the young girl was shot in the neck and bled for two hours before passing away.

    “They [the SEALs] entered another house and killed everybody in it, including all the women. They burned the house” he added.

    “Why kill children?” the grandfather asked candidly.

    In 2011, the US had already killed Abdurahman, al Awlaki’s 16-year grandson, in a drone strike while he ate at a restaurant with his young cousins.

    Such acts sanctioned by the US President show that he is all too willing to fulfil his terrifying promise to ” take out [terrorists’] families”, even when the US definition of ‘terrorist’ has been unchallenged, and is broad and far-reaching.

    The US wars destroying Yemen


    Such incidents are sadly not isolated occurrences in Yemen. In 2009, 41 villagers, 35 of whom were women and children, were killed by US cluster bombs in al Majalah, Southern Yemen. Cluster bombs are banned by 119 countries.

    Since 2015, Yemen has descended into a war leaving Yemenis sitting between two fires. On one side, the US/UK-backed airstrikes, which, according to the UN, caused almost two thirds of reported civilian deaths. On the other side, the Iranian-backed Houthis who have also been accused of causing mass civilian casualties.

    As a result, 2.4 million Yemenis have fled their homes, many seeking refuge in neighbouring war-torn Somalia. Emergency aid organisations have recently warned that 7 million are on the brick of starvation, forced to eat from rubbish dumps.

    Half a million children were in urgent need of treatment for malnutrition.

    US citizens must petition their government


    Standing in a Syrian cemetery and surrounded by children’s graves, American war-reporter Bilal Abdul Kareem commented on Nawar’s killing, labelling the idea that “so-called Islamic militants” are at war with democracy and freedoms as “total propaganda” and “false”.

    “If this (type of warfare that is killing all these children, women and innocent people in the name of fighting terror) is not OK, then you need to petition your government day in and day out, so that there can be a cessation of these type of attacks”, he said addressing his fellow American citizens.

    For Glenn Greenwald, “civilian victims in Yemen will be ignored because the U.S. and its allies are responsible”.

    The American people have shown their capacity to stand up in front of the president they elected, opposing the “Muslim ban”, supporting refugees from Muslim countries including Yemen. They have organised nation-wide rallies, donated en masse to civil rights organisations and formed circles to protect Muslims praying.

    If detaining Yemenis at airports sparks outrage, surely killing their children should too.

    https://cage.ngo/article/the-killing-of-nawar-al-awlaki-if-banning-yemenis-from-the-us-sparks-outrage/

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    This is Trump, and this is America.

    And you actually get people who think, "Trump isn't a bad person."

    Where are the minds of the Muslims...
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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Obama did much worse. You have to understand, this is not just Trump, this is the American military-industrial complex.

    It's exceptionally harrowing when it's a child. Yemen, Pakistan, Kashmir, Palestine....and so many more have suffered too much for too long.

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Salaam

    Quick comment on the raid.

    Trump Presidency --- First SNAFUs Already


    First, there was the botched raid against an alledged al-Qaeda compound in Yakla, Yemen. Let me commit a crimethink here and remind everybody that for all the great Hollywood movies, Americans have a terrible record of doing special ops. The latest one was typical. First, it involved Navy SEALS, one of the most disaster-prone US special forces. Second, it involved special forces from the United Arab Emirates (don’t ask why, just don’t). I am pretty sure that using US Rangers alone would have yielded better results. Third, as always, they got detected early. And then they began taking casualties. This time from female al-Qaeda fighters. Finally, they botched the evacuation. They did kill some kids and, so they say, an al-Qaeda leader. More about this raid here and here. As I said, this is pretty much par for the course. But I am sure that some Hollywood movie will make it look very heroic and “tactical”. But the real world bottom line remains unchanged: Americans should give up on special ops, they just can’t do it right.

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/trump-presidency-first-snafus-already/

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    reading those stories, I wonder how one could call them humans... I mean to kill children and women.

    They also use buzz words such as "precision bombings" or smart bombs. you will rarely see civile people dead on the floor in Syria/Libya or yemen with an American Jet or Soldier.

    Because doing that would put them in a bad light. So they have to justify their war by pretty words and beautifying war. MAking it seem acceptable by saying "we've identified the terrorist/enemy/dictator, we will kill him now. With precision bombs." ...

    They are soo stubborn, because we Muslims want Shariah, not Democracy. It is seen as acceptable to go to war to spread their democracy. It is ok to do propaganda and spread lies because that is what the Military do. That is their job. That is their political job, to be politically correct.

    Not even the media is critical of the Military. The photos are carefully selected. If 1 photo seems too realistic- or violent. They throw it in the bin and hire another artist who can paint a good picture that will serve the interests of the Military.

    Allahu alam.
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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
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    Salaam

    Detailed analysis of what happend.

    Drone strikes in Yemen

    Nine young children killed: The full details of botched US raid in Yemen




    Planned for months, it was decided over dinner.

    The raid on a village in rural Yemen reportedly aimed to capture or kill one of the world’s most dangerous terrorists and deliver a stinging blow to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), a militant network the US had been trying to dismantle for more than a decade.

    The collection of small brick houses in Yemen’s dusty central region was home to civilian families as well as militants and was heavily-guarded, meaning a precise, well-practiced operation was paramount.

    Intense surveillance was carried out for weeks, rehearsals took place in Djibouti, and Navy SEALS awaited the go-ahead from their commander-in-chief. It came just five days after President Donald Trump took office.

    But as the elite team descended under the cover of darkness, what could have been the first major victory for the new administration in its renewed mission to defeat radical Islam quickly went dreadfully wrong.

    As cover was blown, enemy fire returned and contingency plans failed, tragedy unfolded on all sides.

    It is already known that 8-year-old Nawar al Awlaki, the daughter of al Qaeda propagandist Anwar al Awlaki was among those who died in the attack. But following a field investigation, the Bureau can today reveal that nine children under the age of 13 were killed and five were wounded in the raid in al Bayda province on January 29.

    Details emerged piecemeal last week regarding civilian and military deaths, the disputed value of the targets and deficiencies in planning – some of the information coming from military sources in unprecedented briefings against its own administration. Insiders told CNN and NBC that the ultimate target was AQAP leader Qasim al Raymi. If the soldiers didn’t find him in the village they hoped they would find clues as to his location.

    But despite the growing reports of failure – and despite the death of Navy SEAL Chief Petty Officer William Owens and the destruction of a $70 million Osprey aircraft – Trump’s press secretary Sean Spicer has continued to insist that the mission was a “successful operation by all standards.”

    Evidence gathered by the Bureau must surely challenge that assessment. A fierce gunfight turned into an intense aerial bombardment, and the outcome “turned out to be as bad as one can imagine it being,” said former US ambassador to Yemen Stephen Seche.

    Working with a journalist who visited the targeted village of al Yakla five days after the raid and talked to nine of the survivors, we have collected the names and ages of all 25 civilians killed as reported by those who live there. The Bureau also has photos of the families hit and the homes destroyed as helicopter gunship fire rained down.

    AQAP say 14 “of its men” were killed in the clash, including six villagers. The youngest was 17, the oldest 80.

    The villagers say 25 civilians died alongside a group of militants, including nine children under the age of 13. They deny that any of the dead villagers were AQAP members. Of the nine young children who died, the smallest was only three months old. Eight women were killed, including one who was heavily pregnant. Seven more women and children were injured.

    There is fury at the US for what the villagers say was yet another example of disregard for civilian life in the pursuit of terror.

    “It is true they were targeting al Qaeda but why did they have to kill children and women and elderly people?” said Zabnallah Saif al Ameri, who lost nine members of his extended family, five of whom were children. “If such slaughter happened in their country, there would be a lot of shouting about human rights. When our children are killed, they are quiet.”

    Villagers described chaos, with people shot as they attempted to flee the gun battle before helicopters opened fire.

    “They killed men, children and women and destroyed houses,” said Mohsina Mabkhout al Ameri, who lost her brother, nephew and three of her nephew’s children. “We are normal people and have nothing to do with al Qaeda or [Yemeni rebel movement] the Houthis or anyone. The men came from America, got off the planes and the planes bombed us.”

    Civilian deaths can provide ‘recruitment tool’ for terrorists


    This is by no means the first US counter-terror operation in Yemen which has killed civilians. Each one has stoked more resentment among the population. Yemeni foreign minister, Abdul Malik al Mekhlafi, said on his official Twitter account that the deaths amounted to “extrajudicial killings.”

    A campaign statement by Donald Trump suggests the new leader of the free world may view such civilian casualties as inevitable, or even necessary. “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” he said in December. “When they say they don’t care about their lives, you have to take out their families.”

    Trump’s statement led to speculation that women and children might be deliberately targeted by the US. But Stephen Seche, who was US ambassador to Yemen from 2007-10, told the Bureau he did not believe America had changed its attitude towards protecting civilians. However “the enormous cost in human life” from this particular raid would damage the legitimacy of American intervention in Yemen, he told the Bureau. “It’s a horrific calculation to have to make and the outcome in this case turned out to be as bad as one can imagine it being.”

    Far from delivering a blow to AQAP, the raid may have strengthened it. “Groups like AQAP will contend [this attack] shows Trump is making good on his campaign pledge,” said Letta Tayler, Terrorism and Counterterrorism Researcher at Human Rights Watch. “Even if Trump wasn’t serious, armed extremists are likely to jump on every photo of a Yemeni child killed in a US strike as a recruitment tool.”

    “The use of US soldiers, high civilian casualties and disregard for local tribal and political dynamics… plays into AQAP’s narrative of defending Muslims against the West and could increase anti-US sentiment and with it AQAP’s pool of recruits,” said International Crisis Group in a report released three days after the attack.

    The alleged target of the raid certainly appeared to think it had helped AQAP’s cause, releasing a message on February 5 mocking the US. “The fool of the White House got slapped,” said al Raymi in an audio recording which military sources said was authentic, reported NBC.

    A nightmare unfolds

    As Abdallah al Ameri and his neighbour Sheikh Abdallah al Taisi prepared for bed on January 28, they could be forgiven for thinking they had suffered enough bad luck for a lifetime. Both men, subsistence farmers now too old to work their land, had already survived a US drone attack which hit Abdallah’s wedding party in December 2013. They both lost their eldest sons in that attack, which killed 12 people but which the US has never formally acknowledged.

    Their home region of al Bayda had been battered since late 2014, as the Yemeni government led by President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi began its slow-motion collapse. In its place, a three-way battle erupted between tribes allied to the government, the Houthi rebel movement and al Qaeda militants. An international coalition led by Saudi Arabia would join the fray the following year.

    Yemen’s hinterland, Yakla included, faced Houthi shelling, incursions by AQAP and bombing by US drones – all on top of severe food and fuel shortages wreaked by a Saudi-led blockade. Yemen now stands on the brink of famine.

    The day leading up to the strike, rebel Houthis encamped in the nearby Qaifa mountains fired Katyusha rockets at tribal militiamen in Yakla. The militiamen were allied to the internationally-recognised government led by President Hadi. It was a familiar exchange in an ongoing battle for control of the region since the start of the rebellion.

    But the ominous sign of things to come was subtler. Sadiq al Jawfi, a member of a local cross-party ceasefire committee which monitors violations at the request of the UN Security Council envoy to Yemen, told the Bureau that mobile phone coverage providing Yakla with its only line to the outside world had been cut. Yemen’s National Security Bureau (NSB), historically allied to former President Ali Abdallah Saleh and now his Houthi allies, had a history of restricting coverage prior to military operations.

    It was a moonless night and the calm in Yakla was punctured only by the familiar sound of drones buzzing overhead.

    In the middle of the night US special forces flew from the aircraft carrier USS Makin Island in Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft and landed a few kilometres from the village. Things started to go wrong right from the start. One of the Ospreys crash-landed, injuring three of the troops.

    “The operation began when the soldiers landed next to the graveyard which lies about 2km away from our town, north of Yakla”, Sheikh Abdelilah Ahmed al Dahab said. The soldiers then proceeded on foot, flanked by military dogs, in the direction of the village. Villagers say there were about 50 soldiers.

    An 11-year-old is the first hit

    His son Ahmed was the first casualty. According to al Dahab the 11-year-old was woken by the commotion outside and went to see what was going on. “When my son Ahmed saw them, he couldn’t tell that they were soldiers because it was dark,” he said. “He asked them ‘Who are you?’ but the men shot him. He was the first killed. No one thought that marines would descend on our homes to kill us, kill our children and kill our women.”

    Tribal leaders Abdelraouf al Dahab and his brother came out to confront the soldiers and were shot dead, committee member Sadiq al Jawfi said. Local sources say they were AQAP members, and press reports released in the initial aftermath of the raid suggested that Abdelraouf and Sultan were among the primary targets of the operation. 80-year-old Saif al Jawfi, who also had al Qaeda connections according to AQAP, came out to see the commotion. He too was killed.



    SEAL Team 6 attacked the home of 65-year-old Abdallah Mabkhout al Ameri, surrounding it and opened fire indiscriminately, Abdelilah al Dahab and other witnesses claimed. “When people heard the gunshots and missiles, local men rushed out of their homes to find out what was going on,” he said.

    Three witnesses said the commandos shot at everyone who left their homes. In these lawless parts of Yemen every home has a Kalashnikov and the residents reached for their guns “to defend their homes and their honour,” Abdelilah al Dahab said.

    The villagers say 38-year-old mother of seven, Fatim Saleh al Ameri was fatally shot by special operators while trying to flee with her two-year-old son Mohammed. “We pulled him out from his mother’s lap. He was covered in her blood,” said 11-year-old Basil Ahmed Abad al- Zouba, whose 17-year-old brother was killed.

    The al Ameri family was particularly badly hit. Abdallah, 65, who had survived the attack on his wedding party three years earlier, was killed alongside his 25-year-old daughter Fatima and 38-year-old son Mohammed. Three of Mohammed’s four children also died – Aisha, 4, Khadija, 7, and Hussein, 5. A further nine members of the extended family were killed.

    As the firefight ensued, helicopter gunships appeared and “shot at everything”, including at homes and people fleeing, Sadiq al Jawfi and other witnesses said. Fahad Ali al Ameri woke up to the gunfire. “I was woken up after midnight by the bombing of the helicopters. There were soldiers on the ground shooting at us. They started shooting at us with machine gun fire.” He says a missile fired at his home, killing his three-month-old daughter as she lay asleep in her crib.

    At some stage, al Qaeda militants who had encamped in the nearby Masharif and Sharia mountains descended to engage the US commandos in a fight which would last over two hours. AQAP say 14 of its men died in total: six villagers and eight others.

    The eight-year-old daughter of the late radical American preacher Anwar al Awlaqi, who was visiting her uncle Abdelilah al Dahab, was hiding in a room when it was attacked by the gunships, her uncle said. “Some of the gunfire went through the windows and Nawar was injured in her neck,” he said.

    The girl would not survive. “We tried to save her but we couldn’t do anything for her,” said Abdelilah al Dahab. “She was injured around 2.30am and bled until she died at around dawn prayers

    US special operatives made an exit from the village at around the same time, say villagers, but some air attacks continued.

    In the days that followed, conflicting narratives emerged. At first, the Department of Defense’s Central Command (Centcom) was bullish, describing the raid as “one in a series of aggressive moves against terrorist planners in Yemen.”

    Defense Secretary James Mattis gave a statement honouring the soldier who died. Chief Petty Officer Owens, 36, “gave his full measure for our nation, and in performing his duty, he upheld the noblest standard of military service,” he said.

    As details about civilian casualties emerged – most notably that of eight-year-old Nawar al Awlaqi, whose photograph was circulated – the tone was softened. It was “concluded regrettably that civilian non-combatants were likely killed in the midst of a firefight during a raid in Yemen Jan. 29,” said a statement released on February 1. “Casualties may include children.”

    Two days later the Pentagon released a video showing a man building bombs which it said had been discovered in the raid. Within hours it was removed from the Pentagon’s website’s after people pointed out the same video had been published online in 2007.

    Yemeni government reassesses US relationship

    The raid has caused anger in the Yemeni government as well as among civilians. A senior official told Reuters on Wednesday that concerns had been expressed to the US government and in future “there needs to be more coordination with Yemeni authorities before any operation and that there needs to be consideration for our sovereignty.”

    The White House, however, continues to insist that the raid was “highly successful.”

    “It achieved the purpose it was going to get – save the loss of life that we suffered and the injuries that occurred,” Spicer said in a press briefing on February 7. “The goal of the raid was intelligence-gathering. And that’s what we received, and that’s what we got.”

    Centcom did not respond to a request for comment from the Bureau.

    https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2017/02/08/nine-young-children-killed-full-details-botched-us-raid-yemen/

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    “It achieved the purpose it was going to get – save the loss of life that we suffered and the injuries that occurred,” Spicer said in a press briefing on February 7. “The goal of the raid was intelligence-gathering. And that’s what we received, and that’s what we got.”
    Junon,

    This is my comment on this quote:

    What rubbish.

    "It achieved the purpose it was going to get – save the loss of life that we suffered and the injuries that occurred,”

    What loss of life? What did you guys suffer? What injuries?

    Fact is, they killed children and women, invaded private property. What did the US suffer, to do this??

    And for the intelligence gathering, what kind of intelligence did you guys acquire by killing children? How do you guys accept the fact that you bomb children, ??

    Reality is, there was no intelligence gathering, there was no "saving the loss of life" nor did the US suffer any injuries. They caused all that themselves.

    I hate how they act all high and mighty.

    The ignorance and hypocrisy disgusts me. tbh.

    what they did is no different from the killing of innocents and targetting civilians under the pretense of "preserving and protecting life".

    They are terrorists themselves.

    Allahu alam.
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    Salaam

    And Trumps response. . . . . . . .

    Donald Trump claims botched Yemen raid was the US ‘winning’ despite 30 civilian casualties

    His latest Twitter rant claims that the US Navy Seal who died was part of a successful mission


    Donald Trump has claimed that the botched Yemen raid that left nine children and a US Navy Seal dead, was an example of the US "winning".

    In a Twitter rant, he said the Chief Special Warfare Operator William Ryan Owens was a hero who died during a "winning" raid, and not a “failure”.

    President Trump has been criticised for "missing his target" during his first overseas military mission.

    On 29 January he gave the green light to descend upon a rural Yemeni village to target Al-Qaeda leader Qasim al Raymi, but the operation ended up killing nine children and a member of the US military.

    There were at least 30 casualties in total.

    In a series of tweets, the President vented anger against Senator John McCain, a former war prisoner in Vietnam, for claiming that the mission had been a failure.

    Mr McCain had told reporters that the loss of lives "made it hard" to describe the operation as a success.

    "He's been losing so long he doesn't know how to win anymore, just look at the mess our country is in - bogged down in conflict all over the place. Our hero Ryan died on a winning mission (according to General Mattis), not a "failure".

    "Time for the US to get smart and start winning again!"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-claims-botched-yemen-raid-us-winning-success-failure-twitter-rant-a7571646.html

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Junon,

    This is my comment on this quote:

    What rubbish.

    "It achieved the purpose it was going to get – save the loss of life that we suffered and the injuries that occurred,”

    What loss of life? What did you guys suffer? What injuries?

    Fact is, they killed children and women, invaded private property. What did the US suffer, to do this??

    And for the intelligence gathering, what kind of intelligence did you guys acquire by killing children? How do you guys accept the fact that you bomb children, ??

    Reality is, there was no intelligence gathering, there was no "saving the loss of life" nor did the US suffer any injuries. They caused all that themselves.

    I hate how they act all high and mighty.

    The ignorance and hypocrisy disgusts me. tbh.

    what they did is no different from the killing of innocents and targetting civilians under the pretense of "preserving and protecting life".

    They are terrorists themselves.

    Allahu alam.
    I think the loss of life they endured is 9/11, where 3,000 Americans died. But there is a comedian (an american) who talked about this saying, "I feel like america is like the world's...worst girlfriend...America is like a terrible girlfriend to the rest of the world, because when someone hurts America, she remembers it forever","But if she does anything bad it's like "it....what?! what?! I didn't....do anything!!!!!" "America why do you keep bombing all those people in Yemen....and all those.." "well, cause 9/11, ok....!!!! 9/11!!!!" "ok, well you killed like hundreds of thousands of people so i think that..." "yeah, i know but 9/11....so yeah, forget you....you dont understand!!!" "yeah, but youre torturing people...." "oh, my God, it wasn't even torture...." the comedian's name is Louis CK, he also insulted Trump......and talked about in depth why he does not support him...

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I think the loss of life they endured is 9/11, where 3,000 Americans died. But there is a comedian (an american) who talked about this saying, "I feel like america is like the world's...worst girlfriend...America is like a terrible girlfriend to the rest of the world, because when someone hurts America, she remembers it forever","But if she does anything bad it's like "it....what?! what?! I didn't....do anything!!!!!" "America why do you keep bombing all those people in Yemen....and all those.." "well, cause 9/11, ok....!!!! 9/11!!!!" "ok, well you killed like hundreds of thousands of people so i think that..." "yeah, i know but 9/11....so yeah, forget you....you dont understand!!!" "yeah, but youre torturing people...." "oh, my God, it wasn't even torture...." the comedian's name is Louis CK, he also insulted Trump......and talked about in depth why he does not support him...
    So basically.

    What they are saying is "Some guy // Al-qaeda Leader did 9/11 (or whoever else), so lets go do the same on innocent people who had nothing to do with it".

    In the court of Allah, they won't get away with "But they did 9/11" . I am sure you know all this.

    I am pretty sure, either Russia or USA would bomb any country who tried to establish Shariah, and be independent of both the West and The East (Russia and China) I hope a day comes where they wont be able to do that.

    They are no better than those who did 9/11.
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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    So basically.

    What they are saying is "Some guy // Al-qaeda Leader did 9/11 (or whoever else), so lets go do the same on innocent people who had nothing to do with it".

    In the court of Allah, they won't get away with "But they did 9/11" . I am sure you know all this.

    I am pretty sure, either Russia or USA would bomb any country who tried to establish Shariah, and be independent of both the West and The East (Russia and China) I hope a day comes where they wont be able to do that.

    They are no better than those who did 9/11.
    what he's saying is that America never forgives when it is wronged to the point that it retaliates 100X harder against its perceived enemies, and to the point that innocent people get hurt as a result of such a harsh reaction....because America responds disproprotionately....funny thing though, is that for American history, one thing ive learned is that usually when America gets into a war, and ive mentioned this in another post..it usually goes something like this.... step 1) america gets into a dispute with another group of people step 2) other group of people attack America step 3) America declares war and fights back 100X harder, and destroys other group of people step 4) america reaches a helping hand and offers to rebuild other group of people's nation step 5) america and former enemy are friends....which was was seen by Britain (which America seceded from),the Southern states (which seceded from America, and formed the Confederacy), Nazi germany and world war 2 axis powers, (during world war 2, america completely obliterated nazi germany and nuked ultranationalist japan) etc

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    America is imploding from within.

    And I'm all out of popcorn.

    Dang.

    Ya know the death of an empire is only noticed once that empire has gone past its peak point right?

    America peaked in the 80's... since then, it's been a downhill slide and now - gravity has taken hold.

    The shift of global political power is moving from the USA to Israel now.

    Tipping points occur as we speak.

    America's last ditch action is nothing short of desperation.

    See it for what it is.

    Allahu Akbar.

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    America is imploding from within.

    And I'm all out of popcorn.

    Dang.

    Ya know the death of an empire is only noticed once that empire has gone past its peak point right?

    America peaked in the 80's... since then, it's been a downhill slide and now - gravity has taken hold.

    The shift of global political power is shifting from the USA to Israel now.

    Tipping points occur as we speak.

    America's last ditch action is nothing short of desperation.

    See it for what it is.

    Allahu Akbar.

    Scimi
    but how will we deal with Israel?
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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Did the British government have a hands in this ? if they did there as evil and war muggers just like trump they are just as evil
    no wonder we have terrorist attacks in the west when we go around killing children who did nothing wrong they just lived there
    terrifying them before death and the ones left be hide injured mentally and psychically with no family
    this is sick and trump has just started with this am a friend there will be more killings like this
    It breaks my heart to think that more children will be killed because of trump
    he an evil evil man and the governments that allow this is just as bad
    please Allah help them

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    Re: 8-year old girl dies in Trump-ordered Navy SEAL strike....

    Salaam

    Let us not forget their other actors at work. Saudis and Iran are using Yemen as a battleground for their proxy war.

    Origins of the conflict.




    Trump Intends to Follow Up Botched Yemen Military Raid By Helping Saudis Target Civilians


    Donald Trump’s first concrete decision as commander in chief was a major fiasco that killed nine children, eight women, and a U.S. soldier in a botched raid on al Qaeda in Yemen.

    The operation — which Trump reportedly approved over dinner — also failed to catch its reported target and severely damaged a local clinic, mosque, and school.

    It’s hard to imagine Donald Trump making the situation worse in Yemen, but he did.

    Impoverished to begin with, Yemen is two years into a civil war that has killed 10,000 people and displaced millions. A U.S.-supplied bombing campaign has turned schools, hospitals, essential infrastructure, and ancient heritage sites into rubble. And a U.S.-backed blockade is preventing the trade of food and basic goods, starving a country that previously relied on imports for 90 percent of its food.

    As a result, the United Nations this week declared that Yemen is on the brink of famine. Officials held a news conference Wednesday to announce that 19 million Yemenis — more than two-thirds of the country’s population — need some form of humanitarian assistance, 7.3 million people do not know where their next meal will come, and more than half of the country’s medical facilities have closed.

    Jan Egeland, a former UN official and chair of the Norwegian Refugee Council, described the situation by saying “if bombs don’t kill you, a slow and painful death by starvation is now an increasing threat.”

    Even so, the toll of Trump’s botched raid was so high that it drew criticism from the ousted government-in-exile of Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi — the party supported by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia in Yemen’s civil war. The New York Times reported Tuesday that Hadi’s ministers had withdrawn their support for the U.S. to conduct ground missions in Yemen. The Pentagon and the Hadi government quickly denied the report, but Hadi’s foreign minister then said the government is conducting a “reassessment” of the raid.

    Trump is evidently so sensitive to the criticism that he has tried to smother it by shamefully smearing critics and trying to stifle dissent.

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer accused critics of being disrespectful of Chief Special Warfare Operator William “Ryan” Owens, the Navy SEAL Trump sent to his death. “I think anybody who undermines the success of that raid owes an apology and does a disservice to the life of Chief Owens,” Spicer said.

    On Thursday, after Sen. John McCain, R.-Ariz., described the raid as “a failure,” Trump — who repeatedly insisted it was a success — lashed out on Twitter, saying McCain’s criticism “emboldens the enemy” — likening congressional truth-telling to sedition.

    And signs are that Yemen is in for more suffering at Trump’s hands. Trump’s Defense Department is reportedly considering a proposal to designate Yemen a formal battlefield in the war on terror, which would allow for an “intensified pace of operations, rather than one-off raids or drone strikes.”

    Yemen is one of seven countries included in Trump’s immigration ban. In New York City, Yemeni-Americans have led strikes and large protests against the ban, which separates many from their extended families.

    And the Washington Times reported on Wednesday that the administration is set to approve an arms transfer to Saudi Arabia that the Obama administration denied to them on human rights grounds.

    The shipment contains hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons guidance systems that would allow Saudi Arabia to convert dumb bombs into precision missiles.

    Targeted bombing is normally safer for civilians than indiscriminate bombing. In fact, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said during his confirmation hearing that the U.S. should provide Saudi Arabia with “better targeting intelligence” and “better targeting capability” in order to minimize “collateral damage.”

    But the Obama administration, despite its reluctance to offend the Saudis, halted the guidance-systems sales after concluding that the Saudi-led coalition was targeting civilians deliberately.

    Saudi Arabia began bombing Yemen in March 2015 after Houthi rebels overran the capital and deposed Hadi, the Saudi-backed leader, who now splits his time between the Saudi capital and southern Yemen. The U.S. has been a silent partner in the kingdom’s campaign against the Houthis, refueling warplanes, supplying targeting intelligence, and resupplying the coalition with more than $20 billion in weapons.

    Since the beginning of their campaign, Saudi Arabia has destroyed vital civilian infrastructure including farms, fisheries, water infrastructure, roads, and hospitals. Other targeting decisions have sparked global outrage: the bombing of a children’s school and a school for the blind, and the October attack that turned a funeral at a community center into a “lake of blood.”

    Congress has not yet been notified of the weapons shipment, and the Pentagon declined to comment on it.

    The Saudi-led bombing campaign has also allowed al Qaeda’s Yemen affiliate — the target of Trump’s botched raid — to grow exponentially in personnel and finances. According to State Department reports, the group quadrupled in size the year that Saudi Arabia started bombing. The same year, al Qaeda seized a prominent port city, which netted them an estimated $5 million a day off customs tariffs and smuggled goods. Al Qaeda in Yemen is also fighting the Houthis.

    While Trump ramps up U.S. militarism in Yemen, Democrats have largely ignored the plight of the Yemenis. When a Yemeni refugee who had lost her father to Saudi bombing questioned Nancy Pelosi at a CNN town hall on January 31, Pelosi condemned Trump’s Muslim travel ban — but said nothing about U.S. support for Saudi Arabia’s war. “Your family is suffering because our president is reckless” she said.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/10/trump-intends-to-follow-up-botched-yemen-military-raid-by-helping-saudis-target-civilians/

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