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    The Nature of Torture

    Torture practices include beatings such as jumping on the victim’s stomach; falacca or falanga, which involves beating the soles of the feet with rods; telephono, where the torturer claps flattened palms over the victim’s ears rupturing the tympanic membrane in the process; the use of electricity, including tying victims to a metal bed before applying a current and the use of pointed electrodes placed on the victim’s genitalia; burning; submarino, the submersion of the victim’s head in dirty water until the point of suffocation is almost reached; rape and forced sexual assault; suspension in mid-air with knees bent over a rod and tied tightly to wrists; deprivation of water; fake executions; the forced witnessing of the torture of the victim’s family or children; being held incommunicado; sensory deprivation; the forced injection of psychotropic drugs or ‘faecal matter’.

    Tortured in Syria by Italy

    Mohammed Majid Shakir was tortured by the Syrians under the command of the Italians. He explains the torture methods used upon him by the Syrians.

    “Their instruments of torture were :-

    a. Blasphemy. They insulted Allah(swt), his messenger(saw), and tore up the Qu’ran

    b. Beating with sticks. They attacked me with a hard stick, and if I tried to defend myself they attacked me harder. Whilst this was happening, I could hear the screams of the other brothers, and they haunt me still to this day.

    c. In the winter, in the cell of torture the brothers were tied to a chair by their hands and feet, and into a cell that was freezing. They put an electric fan on us in our faces from morning to afternoon” (Help the Prisoners, 2010)

    Tortured in Baghram

    Moazzam Beg narrates his experience in Baghram prison, he states, “One particular month in May, I was subjected to some extremely harsh interrogation techniques, which included being – or having my hands tied behind my back to my legs like an animal, as they call in America ‘hogtied’, with a hood placed over my head so I was in a suffocating position, kicked and beaten and sworn at and spat at, left to rot in this position for hours and hours on end and taken again into interrogation, and this lasted over a period of over a month. That wasn’t the worst of it, of course. The worst of it for me was the psychological part, because all of this time I had no communication with my family at all. I didn’t know what happened to my wife or my children. For all I knew they could have done terrible things to them. And that was my biggest fear. (Moazzam Begg, quoted in Democracy Now!, 2006)

    Torture in Abu Ghraib

    In 2004, the world witnessed the shocking institutionally sanctioned torture of Iraqi prisoners by US soldiers in Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison. The vile images of grinning American soldiers standing over shackled, naked and hooded Iraqi men in demeaning, sexually humiliating and contorted positions stunned the liberal conscience of the Western world. Rather than the aberrant behaviour of an isolated few, it became clear that the nine soldiers who were court-martialled for the crimes were indeed responding to orders issued from the highest levels of military government.

    Death at Camp Delta

    On June 9, 2006, three detainees died while in custody at Camp 1 of the Guantánamo Bay detention facility. Yassar Talal Al Zahrani, Mani Shaman Turki Al Habardi Al Tabi, and Ali Abdullah Ahmed were reported to have been found hanging in their cells at approximately 00:20 on June 10. According to descriptions from the guards, medics, and autopsy reports, all three detainees were cold to the touch, bluish in colour, and in a state of rigor mortis, indicating that each had been dead for more than two hours at the time of discovery. Their eyes were rolled back in their sockets and they had no pulse. Rigor mortis locked their jaws and impeded resuscitation attempts. In the case of one detainee, his jaw had to be pried open with a metal instrument that broke his teeth. At that time, medical personnel discovered that he had a cloth deep in his mouth and down his throat. The same condition was discovered in the other two bodies. The investigations did not explain why the detainees had rags in their throats (Death in Camp Delta, 2009).

    Guantanamo Bay

    Binyamin Mohammed recalls his experience of prison in Guantanamo Bay, “It is still difficult for me to believe that I was abducted, hauled from one country to the next, and tortured in medieval ways – all orchestrated by the United States government…There are thousands of other prisoners held by the US elsewhere around the world, with no charges, and without access to their families. And I have to say, more in sadness than in anger, that many have been complicit in my own horrors over the past seven years. For myself, the very worst moment came when I realised in Morocco that the people who were torturing me were receiving questions and materials from British intelligence (BBC News, 23rd February 2009)

    Implications of Torture

    There are a significant amount of detention centres around the world, specifically designed to torture victims. Cruel and callous methods of torture render the victims as helpless and in many cases, ultimately causing their deaths. The victims of torture are owed one thing above all else: justice. The perpetrators of torture must be exposed for who they are, and for what they have done. There is no statute of limitations on inhumanity. Those who designed and implemented the torture and illegal rendition programmes must be punished for their crimes or the laws forbidding these activities will be recognised as meaningless. These inhumane acts were committed against real people. Only the victims can forgive those who violated their human rights and stained the moral consciousness of humanity.
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    Horrible ! Sister, I couldn't read this post on Ummah .com as well
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    It is good that the sister has posted this. The world needs to be aware of how the Muslims who are languishing in prisons around the world are treated, and why that has resulted in groups that have one goal: The destruction of America and its allies wherever they may be. The extent of the hatred they have towards America and its allies cannot be fathomed by those who have not gone through the sufferings they have gone through.
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    Tortures and punishments can never be the solution for the Problems the west fears. They have to find the root cause if they have to solve it.

    Hate and such tortures creates NOTHING but more hate from the oppressed towards the oppressors , iow will create more terrorists . Even the Good people will be tempted to become one.

    Good begets Good and bad begets bad.

    Let them
    use their conscience than using unfruitful power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Horrible ! Sister, I couldn't read this post on Ummah .com as well
    Subhan'Allaah

    If this is how you feel about reading this, then imagine those who have to endure it?

    I really am annoyed no one on Ummah replied to my post. Khair insha'Allaah.
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    Re: Muslim Prisoners

    Throughout history the oppressors have used incarceration as a means to silence the voice of Truth. As Ibn Taymiyyah is known to have stated, “What can my enemies do to me? My paradise and garden are in my chest, and do not leave me. My imprisonment is seclusion with Allāh, and my death is martyrdom, and my expulsion is tourism. If the people who imprisoned me were given the equivalent of this prison in gold, it would not do them as much good as what Allāh has given me with this prison.”

    One of the most influential of Muslim scholars, Sayyid Qutb, was executed, and before his execution, he would repeat his famous statement: “Verily, the index finger that testifies to Allāh’s Oneness in the prayer rejects that it be used to write a single letter acknowledging the rule of a tyrant.” (‘Sayyid Qutb: Min al-Milād ilā al-Istishhād’ (p. 61-62, 462, 474, and 481))
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    At least we should remember them in our dua; but we are too busy in our life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indefinable View Post

    One of the most influential of Muslim scholars, Sayyid Qutb, was executed, and before his execution, he would repeat his famous statement: “Verily, the index finger that testifies to Allāh’s Oneness in the prayer rejects that it be used to write a single letter acknowledging the rule of a tyrant.” (‘Sayyid Qutb: Min al-Milād ilā al-Istishhād’ (p. 61-62, 462, 474, and 481))
    Sayyid Qutb رحمة الله عليه was unique. The Mujaahideen used to describe his words as "opium" on account of how addictive it could be. Sayyid Qutb was a genius, a master writer, an ideologue, a Daa`i, a Mujaahid, a defender of the Haqq, and a Shaheed. He performed that Jihaad which Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم described in the Hadeeth as "Afdhal-ul-Jihaad":

    Speaking the Haqq in front of a tyrant ruler.

    And why is that? Because the person who does so knows with certainty that he is going to be imprisoned, tortured and killed for saying this, but he says it anyway, because his heart is filled with the love of Allaah Ta`aalaa, because he fears only Allaah and does not fear the Makhlooq (creation), because the Deen of Allaah Ta`aalaa is paramount, because the Haqq must - and will always - destroy Baatil.

    Sayyid Qutb spoke the Haqq in the presence of the tyrant ruler, the Fir`own of the time: Jamaal `Abdun Nasr, and he revived the spirit of and love for Jihaad and Shahaadah in the hearts of Muslims around the world, and for that he was imprisoned, tortured, and eventually executed, and he gladly accepted all of that because he preferred the Aakhirah over the Dunyaa, and the Pleasure of Allaah Ta`aalaa over the pleasure of people.

    Sayyid Qutb used to say that our words that we write and that we speak, they remain lifeless, dead, devoid of any movement, until we get killed as a result of those words, whereupon they will spring to life and bring life to the hearts that are dead, bringing them to life as well. Sayyid Qutb wrote a lot in his life, but it was after he was executed that his works truly became famous. Through his blood, his words "sprang to life"; but it is not our blood that makes our words spring to life, it is Allaah Ta`aalaa's acceptance of our blood, that He then allows that blood to give life to what we have spoken and to what we have written.

    My Du`aa is that Allaah Ta`aalaa grants me Shahaadah in His Path, so that my words "spring to life" as well; up until that point in time, they will remain dead, lifeless, devoid of any movement.

    Was-Salaam.
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    I 100% sure if anyone witnessed what they witnessed, they'd too hate America for allowing this. America itself is inviting hatred. And they deserve whatever punishment and hatred that gets to them.

    Those who allow this - may Allah give them a painful death, such that none can help them, and none will hear them, and those who heed these orders and tortures our brothers - I pray against them.

    Just reading it makes me uncomfortable. To have the guts to do this, one must be the soldiers of Iblees.

    Anyone who thinks it is ok for politicans to cover this and to beautify this war, needs to have a reality check.

    NONE has the right to beautify such crude things.

    If they die in the Torture, they'll die a shaheed. Bithnillah. I pray that Allah protects them.

    I can assure you that the Kuffaar will belie Madhi like they belied The Prophet Lets not be fooled.

    However, what to do??
    may Allah release them ameen.
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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

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    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    At least we should remember them in our dua; but we are too busy in our life
    Some points which come to mind:

    1) Ignorance: Some Muslims/General P6opulace is unaware of what's going on.

    2) Lack of unity/brotherhood: Unfortunately Muslims just don't care. Why disturb the comfort of your lives for the sake of others? (Strangers you don't even know?)

    3) Lack of empathy: Again, it boils down to this - if it's not affecting me, personally, then I won't react.

    4) 'Out of sight - out of mind': This mentality of fearing the oppressors in case they incarcerate me too.

    5) Blame Culture: So some Muslims, knowing the plight of other Muslims (in prison) - tend to blame them for their situation. They say, 'You must have done something to end up in prison, they won't just put you in there without a reason.'

    The sad thing is - because it's become so common, and has been happening for such a long time, that we (the common people) have become desensitised to the plight of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    Sayyid Qutb رحمة الله عليه was unique. The Mujaahideen used to describe his words as "opium" on account of how addictive it could be. Sayyid Qutb was a genius, a master writer, an ideologue, a Daa`i, a Mujaahid, a defender of the Haqq, and a Shaheed. He performed that Jihaad which Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم described in the Hadeeth as "Afdhal-ul-Jihaad":

    Speaking the Haqq in front of a tyrant ruler.

    And why is that? Because the person who does so knows with certainty that he is going to be imprisoned, tortured and killed for saying this, but he says it anyway, because his heart is filled with the love of Allaah Ta`aalaa, because he fears only Allaah and does not fear the Makhlooq (creation), because the Deen of Allaah Ta`aalaa is paramount, because the Haqq must - and will always - destroy Baatil.

    Sayyid Qutb spoke the Haqq in the presence of the tyrant ruler, the Fir`own of the time: Jamaal `Abdun Nasr, and he revived the spirit of and love for Jihaad and Shahaadah in the hearts of Muslims around the world, and for that he was imprisoned, tortured, and eventually executed, and he gladly accepted all of that because he preferred the Aakhirah over the Dunyaa, and the Pleasure of Allaah Ta`aalaa over the pleasure of people.

    Sayyid Qutb used to say that our words that we write and that we speak, they remain lifeless, dead, devoid of any movement, until we get killed as a result of those words, whereupon they will spring to life and bring life to the hearts that are dead, bringing them to life as well. Sayyid Qutb wrote a lot in his life, but it was after he was executed that his works truly became famous. Through his blood, his words "sprang to life"; but it is not our blood that makes our words spring to life, it is Allaah Ta`aalaa's acceptance of our blood, that He then allows that blood to give life to what we have spoken and to what we have written.

    My Du`aa is that Allaah Ta`aalaa grants me Shahaadah in His Path, so that my words "spring to life" as well; up until that point in time, they will remain dead, lifeless, devoid of any movement.

    Was-Salaam.


    Indeed Sayyid Qutb (rahimahullah) has left his legacy and all-inspiring words behind. You are probably familiar with his book, 'Ma’alim fi’l-tareeq' - Milestones.

    And these are the intellectuals we should honour, respect, look up to (amongst so many other Lions of Islaam, which Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala has blessed us with).

    Unfortunately, the case today, seems to be that we (and I use this term collectively) are too busy chasing a mirage, and neglecting our rights and responsibilities towards our brothers and sisters in need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    I 100% sure if anyone witnessed what they witnessed, they'd too hate America for allowing this. America itself is inviting hatred. And they deserve whatever punishment and hatred that gets to them.

    Those who allow this - may Allah give them a painful death, such that none can help them, and none will hear them, and those who heed these orders and tortures our brothers - I pray against them.

    Just reading it makes me uncomfortable. To have the guts to do this, one must be the soldiers of Iblees.

    Anyone who thinks it is ok for politicans to cover this and to beautify this war, needs to have a reality check.

    NONE has the right to beautify such crude things.

    If they die in the Torture, they'll die a shaheed. Bithnillah. I pray that Allah protects them.

    I can assure you that the Kuffaar will belie Madhi like they belied The Prophet Lets not be fooled.

    However, what to do??
    may Allah release them ameen.
    It's not just America, or the West, the problems are deeper than that. We simply cannot blame others, for the flaws that we, as an Ummah, have.

    In fact some supposed Muslim states are known to partake in this too.

    I'm currently reading a book, by brother Yassin Aref entitled 'Son of Mountains' (and I would recommend this to every one) - it's not a philosophical, or theological book, it's not a book of fiqh or Islamic history, it's an autobiography of one man, who grew up in harsh conditions in Kurdistan, a Muslim brother in Islam who endured so much, and is currently residing in a prison in America (for something he didn't even do). If you look at his patience, and resilience, it's enough to make one wonder in awe.

    May Allaah the Most Merciful, the Most Just, grant him and all our brothers and sisters, wherever in the world they may be incarcerated, freedom. Ameen.
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    Allah will make the hearts of the Mumineen who are tortured, soft and full of love of Allah , in shaa' Allah. Allah tests whom He loves the most.

    In shaa' Allah true mujahideen. Just reading makes me want to help the Muslims tortured. In shaa' Allah, their love of Allah will make other Muslims love Jihad in the cause of Allah. Cuz I want to help them. Makes me see purpose In Jihad - subhanAllah

    Cant imagine the torture they go through.
    May Allah rid the dislike and fear of death from us Muslims. Ameen
    I love these brothers. Allahu alam.
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    I will keep updating this thread insha'Allaah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indefinable View Post


    Indeed Sayyid Qutb (rahimahullah) has left his legacy and all-inspiring words behind. You are probably familiar with his book, 'Ma’alim fi’l-tareeq' - Milestones.

    And these are the intellectuals we should honour, respect, look up to (amongst so many other Lions of Islaam, which Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala has blessed us with).

    Unfortunately, the case today, seems to be that we (and I use this term collectively) are too busy chasing a mirage, and neglecting our rights and responsibilities towards our brothers and sisters in need.
    To say that I am "familiar" with his books would be an understatement, ukhti.

    I have studied his books all my life.

    The very first Kitaab I ever read was "Milestones". (Very first Kitaab other than the ones we study in Madressah as children, I mean. Like, the basic Deeniyat, history, Masnoon Duas, basic Fiqh, etc. Kitaabs taught to children in Madressah. I'm excluding those, because you don't actually read those; the Ustaadh reads and teaches it. The first Kitaab I read and actually studied, I should say (and this was many, many years ago, at age 13) was "Ma`aalim fit-Tareeq" (Milestones), by Sayyid Qutb.)

    It was after that that I started reading more and more, studying more, started debating with people, etc. I read - possibly - thousands of books after that, but "Milestones" had been the first. A masterpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    To say that I am "familiar" with his books would be an understatement, ukhti.

    I have studied his books all my life.

    The very first Kitaab I ever read was "Milestones". It was after that that I started reading more and more, studying more, started debating with people, etc. I read - possibly - thousands of books after that, but "Milestones" had been the first. Sayyid's magnum opus. A masterpiece.
    It is a masterpiece. It is one of the first books I read too, alhamdulillaah.

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    The silence of Aafia Siddiqui

    The Pakistani prisoner dubbed 'Lady al-Qaeda' has not been heard from for a year, raising concerns about her well-being.

    Born in Karachi, Pakistan, Aafia Siddiqui moved to the United States for school in 1990 and left for Pakistan in 2003, after attending the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and marrying a Pakistani man in Boston.

    Shortly after returning to Pakistan, Siddiqui disappeared while en route to Islamabad with her three children - her family members say they believe she was abducted by the Pakistani intelligence agencies.

    Little is known about what happened to her until she surfaced five years later in Ghazni, Afghanistan, when Afghan police arrested her on suspicions of being a suicide bomber.

    As FBI agents and US military personnel arrived to interrogate her, they said she gained control of a rifle belonging to one of the army officers. In the struggle that ensued, the service member fired on Siddiqui , hitting her at least once in the torso.

    For the next few days, Siddiqui underwent surgery, after which she was transferred to a prison in the United States - where she has been ever since.

    A family 'mystified'

    The last that was heard from the 43-year-old came in July 2014, when, in a surprising turn of events, Siddiqui withdrew what would likely have been the final appeal against her conviction.

    In the letter she wrote to Judge Richard Berman, she stated that she had no faith in the American legal system and that she refused "to participate in this system of total injustice that has punished and tortured me repeatedly".

    Her family and lawyers fear the worst.

    "Letters have not gotten through," said Stephen Downs , her new defence attorney, who took over from Tina M Foster in January.

    "Her family is mystified as to what is happening. There is a concern that she may not be alive," Downs told Al Jazeera.

    The alleged jihadi has a pattern of looking askance at her legal team, which is paid for by the Pakistani government. Ever since her trial began, Siddiqui has gone through a number of lawyers, leery of some due to their Jewish ancestry.

    Siddiqui's sister, Fowzia, a Harvard-trained neurologist now living in Karachi, has been relentlessly heading a campaign seeking her sister's release, but she said she is now losing hope.

    Fowzia spoke to her younger sibling over the phone for the last time in April 2014.

    "Then Aafia had agreed to the appeal," said Fowzia.

    "I remember her telling us that she would never refuse any chance to talk to her family or anyone who could help her. She said we have no idea what goes on at that prison. The doctors are wolves disguised as sheep," Fowzia said.


    Further unnerving the family were reports from two consular visits that the Pakistani embassy made to the prison this year.

    On both occasions, a woman enveloped in a burqa sat with her back to the embassy officers. She refused to show her face and did not utter a word, making it difficult for the embassy officials to say they had definitely met Siddiqui.

    "We are being presented with a person who is represented to be her, but we don't know if that really is the case. Maybe it is not her we are seeing," suggested Downs.

    'I have met Siddiqui recently'

    But US officials dispelled any suspicions of Siddiqui dying in American custody.

    "I can confirm that Aafia Siddiqui is still alive," was the single-sentence email that Patrick Rodenbush, a Justice Department spokesman, sent on July 6, 2015 in response to Al Jazeera's queries about Siddiqui. Rodenbush divulged no additional details.

    Authorities at the Federal Medical Centre, Carswell in Texas, where Siddiqui has been held since 2010, contend that the inmate is free to make her own choices.

    "I have met Siddiqui recently," Patricia Comstock, the public information officer, told Al Jazeera.

    "She has the capability to refuse or accept a correspondence, if she wants to. That is all we can disclose about her," Comstock stated.

    Yet, it is still unclear why Siddiqui is unreachable.

    Early in the trial process in November 2008, a court psychiatrist said she was hallucinating and unfit to stand trial - a determination the psychiatrist later retracted.

    Aafia has now essentially been in solitary confinement for the last 12 years, and tortured for part of that time. And we know that this kind of confinement and torture can do a lot of things to the human mind.

    Stephen Downs, defence attorney
    "Aafia has now essentially been in solitary confinement for the last 12 years, and tortured for part of that time. And we know that this kind of confinement and torture can do a lot of things to the human mind," said Downs.

    Siddiqui's children, who are now 17 and 19 years old, and living with their aunt in Karachi, have never travelled to the US to visit their mother.

    The Afghan government handed over Ahmed, Siddiqui's son, to her sister in Karachi in 2010. The same year, Siddiqui's daughter, Maryam, mysteriously appeared outside the family home.

    Siddiqui's third child, Suleiman, who was six months old at the time of her disappearance, is still missing and presumed dead.

    Prisoner exchange?

    Siddiqui is a high-profile prisoner whose detention has been a divisive issue.

    Pakistan's former Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has called her the "daughter of the nation", requesting her release.

    Her name has also repeatedly popped up as a bargaining chip. Armed groups including the Afghan Taliban, al-Qaeda, and the Islamic State have requested her release in exchange for American captives in their custody.

    According to 2012 media reports, there have been talks between Pakistani authorities and the United States to swap her for Shakil Afridi , the Pakistani doctor who helped the CIA track down Osama bin Laden, and who is currently serving a 23-year prison sentence.

    There are several reasons why the prisoner exchange never materialised. First, the recently drafted extradition treaty between Pakistan and the United States is still awaiting approval from Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

    Second, Pakistan may not be very keen on giving up Afridi, who is viewed as a scapegoat for the Pakistani military's ignorance of the US raid on bin Laden's compound.

    In 2012, Pakistan's then-intelligence chief, Lt-Gen Zaheerul Islam, categorically denied media reports of a possible deal, adding: "Afridi will never be bartered for Dr Aafia Siddiqui."

    US authorities insist that Siddiqui is an al-Qaeda sympathiser, based on evidence that her family and lawyers dispute.

    She was said to have been in possession of documents describing how to make explosives and chemical weapons at the time of her arrest. It has also been reported that she married Ammar al-Baluchi, the nephew of al-Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, after her divorce in Pakistan.

    But her defence team, as well as Siddiqui's sister, deny the nuptials ever took place and argue that there is a lack of scientific and forensic evidence linking her to the documents and the shooting.

    Although all legal proceedings are closed for now, Siddiqui's new team of lawyers is hoping to bring new evidence by the end of this year and have the case reopened - they declined to go into further detail.

    But before that, the defence team has put in a request with the authorities to meet prisoner number 90279-054.

    "She does not seem willing or able to meet with us," said Downs. "We are really not sure what issues are involved, and we are reviewing our options."

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    Tortures and punishments can never be the solution for the Problems the west fears. They have to find the root cause if they have to solve it.

    Hate and such tortures creates NOTHING but more hate from the oppressed towards the oppressors , iow will create more terrorists . Even the Good people will be tempted to become one.

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    Sister, what you mostly are referring are very recent events. I as a Kurd can tell you that we as Kurds have become without emotion, when many so called "Muslim"-brothers and sister throughout the DECADES have refused to listen to our cries.

    You know many Kurds say, this is what the Arabs deserve. The decades of oppressing us, well you deserve it. This has become their mentality and even THEN you see the pain in their eyes of seeing the Arabs getting that punishment. I mean seeing people being killed and tortured, despite them having that done to you, you feel not wanting them to be hurt. So as a Kurd myself, it is very strange that we have such a big heart. We hate each other (Kurds among Kurds), but yet we forgive our enemies in an instant.

    Everybody is shouting for free Palestine, yet we do not hear..free Kurdistan. Do not get me wrong, i do not pursue nationalism, but the same people who call themselves Muslims, stab me in the back for being a Kurd. In case of the Arabs in the Palestinian region their enemy does not say they are Muslim. In case of the oppression of the Kurds..everybody calls themselves Muslim. I think no Kurd has not felt a death within their family or witnessed the oppression themselves. Me as an individual, born without a father because of death in war with the Arabs. One could say i should hate the Arabs the most so to say, but i pity them. As they have the language of the Qur'an and have the knowledge to take them from ignorance, yet they embrace ignorance. Many are all so impressed with the English language and rather want to abandon the Arabic language =_=!.

    Yet, although i myself have not lived under Turkish oppression, rather under Arab oppression, i resent the Turks instead the Arabs. Why? I have tried to logically and rationally talk with many Turks as Muslim to Muslim. As one human being to another. I have given them Qur'an, i have given them shaheeh ahadith, i have given them logical argument..yet you see this filthy dishonest behavior. Till this day, i have ONLY met 2 Turks, i truly can say i see them as my Muslim brothers. Both of them do not care of nationalism. While the rest, ..nationalism is DEEP..VERY DEEP. My only conclusion so far, is the destruction of Turkey. Turkey MUST ..MUST fall..for them to open their eyes. As long as Turkey does not fall, the Middle East will be in less stable situation. Why do i say this?

    Turkey is the BIGGEST hypocrite country on the face of this earth. They attack PKK for wanting a independent Kurdistan, yet the logical and rational argument is ..WHY do the PKK want a independent Kurdistan? They say..this is because of Israel..but the Kurds have been oppressed BEFORE 1948 (creation of Israel). So they have no argument on this. I have argued that Constantinople belongs to Orthodox Christianity as it is taken over by force and it never belongs to the Muslims including Hagia Sophia..all you see is nationalism out of their mouth. They say, majority there are Turks/Muslims, i say..ooh if we follow that logic, then south-eastern Turkey ..majority is Kurd, so it does not belong to Turkey. They keep suddenly quite, as you revealed the their hypocrisy and dishonesty. They worship Mustafa Kemal. I have had discussion with a so called Muslim Turk. He was defending Mustafa Kemal as being the savior of Turkey =_=!. Changed the alphabet, introduced secularism, drank alcohol, was anti-Islam himself even some claim he was a literally a Zionist in disguise to start the dividends of the last Islamic Caliphate. When you suddenly reveale their dishonesty and false argument, they say "But we are Muslim". This has always been their way when you reveal the dishonesty of Turks, they suddenly want to forget the argument and say we are Muslim brothers =_=!.

    I have also heard the argument of Kurds being nomads from the Asia (Inda/Pakistan/Afghanistan) and thus that land not belonging to them. However nomads you could say a few thousands..or saw couple of millions. But being over 40 million o_O!!?? Also, if some people can claim such a thing, then for sure it is ONLY the Persians, as the ORIGINAL Turks have only a 700-800 year origin in that region and the Arabs since the arrival of Islam. The majority of the current Turks originate from neighboring countries (Balkan region etc.).

    Sub'han'Allah, look what Allah(swt) has made. The chaos now in the Middle East, the hypocrites are being shown. They cannot hide themselves. Erdogan is saying XY and Z, yet his actions do something else. He is saying Assaad this and that, yet using the foolish Arabs to fight the Kurds. ISIS had border with Turkey for such a long time, when the Kurds conquered it, he suddenly objected it. We know of the Turks doing business with them, while ISIS has been killing Muslims. AND STILL you see so called Muslims defending him.

    So why the Muslims have been divided and also been tortured and killed, is because of our own doing. If nobody is speaking against oppression or corruption. If nobody is standing up against oppression or corruption. Well be sure of it, that the punishment will come. This EXACT same thing happened to the Kurds within the modern day Iraq. They were saved from poverty and become rich of oil 2003-2014. But i during holiday going there..you saw people defending the corrupt people in power, i saw people throwing garbage on the street, i saw SOOO MUCH food being wasted. I saw Islam, but no imaan. ISIS came and they were also humiliated by Allah(swt). Not getting paid, food became expensive.
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