Finland has a relatively proportionally small amount of Muslims, about 60.000-65.000 in a country of 5,5 million people. The largest ethnic Muslim group residing in Finland are Tatars who came to the country at the end of the 19th century. Today though, most Muslims are from Arab countries, Somalia or the Balkans. The amount of converts is also growing.
The results of data analysed in this report show that Islamophobia is rising in an alarming way throughout public discourse, including media, politics and especially in the realm of cyberspace and social media. Other academic research cited in this report has shown that Islamophobia is one of the reasons of Muslim radicalisation and why some Muslims decide to leave Finland and move to Syria.
You keep talking about Turkey but what are you doing about your nation's leaders?
Why don't you speak out about their human rights violations?
Why are you so mute about your government and politicians?
As a Muslim I feel lot more safer in Turkey then I do in your country.
You keep talking about Turkey but what are you doing about your nation's leaders?
Why don't you speak out about their human rights violations?
Why are you so mute about your government and politicians?
The whataboutery is strong with this one.
The most convenient thing about this kind of assertions is, they don't even have to be true. You can just assume the person isn't doing it simply because you haven't personally heard the person do it. Bit like stupid and bigoted infidels assume Muslims never denounce evil acts by other Muslims simply because they personally haven't heard it.
Sorry, I didn´t think anyone is interesting about my country and it´s policy.
I didn´t support the current president in the elections but I like some of his ideas when he speaks that we all should to be "the people of sense", meet other people as they are and avoid racism. The former president I liked much more, as she too is interesting about the human right issues and supports freedom for Palestine.
We have now far right party in the government but their official statements have been quite lame at the last times. They seem to love their minister´s portfolios and a tiny amount of political power they got.
Oh yes, we have our far right groups, patries and street patrols whose mostly terrify ordinary Finns.
Islamophobia has been raised here too but I can still walk on the streets with hijab without any kind of harassment. Mentality of the Finns is usually so shy that they may say something unkindly only when they are drunk. (Well, some are drunk quite often.) Maybe situation is worse in the bigger cities.
Is it safer in Turkey or in Finland, hard to say as I haven´t never been in Turkey. Have you visited in Finland, br aaj, if I may ask?
I see. But is there some specific matter in your mind what you disagree of actions of the government of Finland? Human right violations for example.
I have been worried about situation of the asylum seekers of Iraq as the government has decided that some areas of Iraq are safe to return and when refugees have went back, they have faced torture in Iraq. There have been a protest camp of refugees in Helsinki for weeks about this matter. Ever heard? Opinions?
Here is also nowadays discussions about what to do with those refugees whose didn´t get recidence permit but now they stay illegally in Finland. Like should government offer to them the basic social security, right for free health care and some place to sleep as it´s the value that the country will take care of the basic needs of all people whose stay in here, legally or illegally. Situation is complicated because Finland and some countries like Iraq hasn´t agreements of the returning of refugees. This means that if they don´t want to go back, Finland can´t kick them out from the country. people can´t live in the streets here as weather is freezing sometimes.
From Occupied Palestine:
We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.
Finnish people in general are friendly and helpful. My brother and my mum had an off-road incident in the middle of the night one day at a highway in Finland. Since it was winter there's load of snow and literally nobody was there. A couple of minutes later, the finnish people(passer bys that happened to come across them) took care of them and help to get the car off the snow(which they plowed through). I think like the Iceland people, finnish people are deeply rooted in spirituality of some sort particularly the indigenous people of Finland ie, The Samis.
Finland has a relatively proportionally small amount of Muslims, about 60.000-65.000 in a country of 5,5 million people. The largest ethnic Muslim group residing in Finland are Tatars who came to the country at the end of the 19th century. Today though, most Muslims are from Arab countries, Somalia or the Balkans. The amount of converts is also growing.
The results of data analysed in this report show that Islamophobia is rising in an alarming way throughout public discourse, including media, politics and especially in the realm of cyberspace and social media. Other academic research cited in this report has shown that Islamophobia is one of the reasons of Muslim radicalisation and why some Muslims decide to leave Finland and move to Syria.
You keep talking about Turkey but what are you doing about your nation's leaders?
Why don't you speak out about their human rights violations?
Why are you so mute about your government and politicians?
As a Muslim I feel lot more safer in Turkey then I do in your country.
lol, of course you feel safe in Turkey, youre a tayyipci.....youre a hardcore supporter of erdogan, only those people are safe in erdogan, and with erdogan's rising nationalism, armenians and kurds aren't safe, either.....in finland, there is due processs of law, which protects ALL peaceful people, not just cronies of the state.....besides, there's either going to be a change in government through elections or a military coup by perincek in turkey anyway, and if it's a coup, it will be much more bloody....you should be fleeing to Finland, because erdogan's regime and all of his allies are going to be targeted soon.
It is true that there is a rising nationalism in Europe and America which is supported by Islamophobia. It is the easiest tool for the western nationalism. Probably Finland was the farest away country from all those troubles in the west but it is not anormal to have it even there today. The west is going nationalist. Just like the conjuncture prior to WW1 and 2.
lol, of course you feel safe in Turkey, youre a tayyipci.....youre a hardcore supporter of erdogan, only those people are safe in erdogan, and with erdogan's rising nationalism, armenians and kurds aren't safe, either.....in finland, there is due processs of law, which protects ALL peaceful people, not just cronies of the state.....besides, there's either going to be a change in government through elections or a military coup by perincek in turkey anyway, and if it's a coup, it will be much more bloody....you should be fleeing to Finland, because erdogan's regime and all of his allies are going to be targeted soon.
stop crying about it on every thread. I"m not even turkish let alone so called "tayyipici". In Finland, they want to cook Muslims alive, have a growing muslim hatred. Finland would throw your gulenist in jail too if they tried coup over there. may Allah protect Turkey from terrorist like gulenist and those who are want to bring it down.
stop crying about it on every thread. I"m not even turkish let alone so called "tayyipici". In Finland, they want to cook Muslims alive, have a growing muslim hatred. Finland would throw your gulenist in jail too if they tried coup over there. may Allah protect Turkey from terrorist like gulenist and those who are want to bring it down.
gulenists did not do coup+aaj bases his argument on gulenists doing coup=aaj is wrong, mustafa16 is right
stop crying about it on every thread. I"m not even turkish let alone so called "tayyipici". In Finland, they want to cook Muslims alive, have a growing muslim hatred. Finland would throw your gulenist in jail too if they tried coup over there. may Allah protect Turkey from terrorist like gulenist and those who are want to bring it down.
It´s only a tiny but loud minority of Finns whose say this kind of idiotic statements. Most of those guys (specially if they are politics) find sooner of later themselves from the court (as it´s crime called "incitiment against the folk group" to make hostile and insulting comments against other people). We have here freedom of speech but it doesn´t allow you say anything you like. If you claim that all Finns or majority of Finns wants to cook Muslims alive, it is called as a generalization. (Finns cook alive only crayfishes and eat them with fresh dill.)
Because you mentioned in your the first post Finland´s human right violations, I took some time to looking for how some human right organizations have criticized Finland. I found two things:
1) Some human right organizations accuse Finland because laws demand those people whose want to change their gender to other (transgender people) to accept sterilization, and
2) Amnesty International claims that asylum seekers don´t get enough informations from the officers about how their proceduce is progressing.
If gulenists would have some actions in Finland, I believe they would to be as any other political party. If they would get enough support in the elections, they may at one day rule the Finland. No need to coup, it´s enough to vote in here. In here you couldn´t call gulenists as terrorists as it would to be a crime called "defamation". Just as same as that person who claimed that all terrorists are Muslims, received a penalty in court.
Brothers
@aaj
and
@Mustafa16
- could you be kind and go to fight to some other thread? Your endless war for or against gulenists and erdoganists is very off topic.
From Occupied Palestine:
We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.
Brothers @aaj and @Mustafa16 - could you be kind and go to fight to some other thread? Your endless war for or against gulenists and erdoganists is very off topic.
I"m not interested in fights, i'm just tired of his playing the victim on every single thread about turkey this turkey that because his gulenist failed the coup and are facing the consequences because of it.
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Finnish people in general are friendly and helpful. My brother and my mum had an off-road incident in the middle of the night one day at a highway in Finland. Since it was winter there's load of snow and literally nobody was there. A couple of minutes later, the finnish people(passer bys that happened to come across them) took care of them and help to get the car off the snow(which they plowed through). I think like the Iceland people, finnish people are deeply rooted in spirituality of some sort particularly the indigenous people of Finland ie, The Samis.
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