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    Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China (OP)


    Saturday 3 June 2017

    Children under 16 told ‘overly religious’ names such as Saddam, Hajj and Jihad must be changed amid pro-Communist rallies across Xinjiang region

    Muslim children in China’s far western Xinjiang region are being forced to change their “religious” names and adults are being coerced into attending rallies showing devotion to the officially atheist Communist party.

    During Ramadan, the authorities in Xinjiang have ordered all children under 16 to change names where police have determined they are “overly religious”. As many as 15 names have been banned, including Islam, Quran, Mecca, Jihad, Imam, Saddam, Hajj, Medina and Arafat, according to Radio Free Asia.

    In April authorities banned certain names for newborns that were deemed to have religious connotations, but the new order expands forced name changes to anyone under 16, the age at which Chinese citizens are issued a national identity card.

    The order coincided with millions gathering at 50,000 individual rallies across Xinjiang this week to pledge allegiance to the Communist party. More than a quarter of the region’s population sang the national anthem at 9am on 29 May and pledged allegiance to the Communist party, according to state media reports.

    Xinjiang’s Muslims mostly belonging to the Uighur ethnic group, a Turkic people. The region has occasionally seen sporadic violence which China blames on international terrorist groups. But overseas observers say the vast majority of incidents are a result of local grievances.

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    Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    From Occupied Palestine:

    We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.




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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Salaam

    Hui Muslims arent being spared.







    Christians targeted also.


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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Another update.

    Targetting the intellectual classes.



    China passes law to make Islam 'compatible with socialism'

    New decree seeks to 'guide Islam', as crackdown against Muslims and Islamic symbols continues.


    China has passed a new law that seeks to "Sinicize" Islam within the next five years, the latest move by Beijing to rewrite how the religion is practised.

    China's main English newspaper, Global Times, reported on Saturday that after a meeting with representatives from eight Islamic associations, government officials "agreed to guide Islam to be compatible with socialism and implement measures to Sinicize the religion".

    The newspaper did not provide further details or the names of the associations that agreed to the decree.

    China has embarked on an aggressive "Sinification" campaign in recent years with faith groups that were largely tolerated in the past seeing their freedoms shrink under Chinese President Xi Jinping, China's most powerful leader since Mao Zedong.

    Practicing Islam has been made forbidden in parts of China, with individuals caught praying, fasting, growing a beard or wearing a hijab, facing the threat of arrest.

    According to the UN, more than one million Uighur Muslims are estimated to be held in internment camps where they are forced to denounce the religion and pleadge allegiance to the officially atheist ruling Communist Party.

    Rights groups have accused China of engaging in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. In August, a Washington Post editorial said the world "can't ignore" the campaign against Muslims.

    Islamic crescents and domes have been stripped from mosques, and according to the Associated Press news agency, religious schools and Arabic classes have been banned and children barred from participating in Muslim activities.

    China has rejected the criticism, saying it protects the religion and culture of its minorities.

    However, in the past week alone, authorities in China's Yunnan province, which borders Mynamar, have closed three mosques established by the marginalised Hui Muslim ethnic minority, the South China Morning Post has reported.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...185031063.html
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    Extreme surveillance, accounts of torture and the detention of up to a million Uighur is all part of what seems to be China’s attempt at eradicating the Uighur identity from its borders





    Oh oh, somebodys connecting the dots.

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    Salaam

    Another update

    Turkey abandons Uighurs in favor of Chinese investment

    “If you don’t come back home now, you’ll never be able to see your homeland again.” Memet Atawulla received the threatening message last May on WeChat, China’s main messaging app. Though written in the Uighur language, he immediately knew it had come from the Chinese secret services.

    “They wanted me to go back,” explains Atawulla, 31, as he sips a soda in one of Ankara’s glitzy cafes. Originally from the oasis town of Hotan in Xinjiang, northwest China, he moved to Turkey in 2016 to pursue a master’s degree on a scholarship program.

    “When I told the agents I was staying here, they said they would leave me alone if I cooperated.” As with many Uighurs living abroad, the Chinese secret services asked Atawulla to become an informant for them. He refused, and is now certain traveling back home would result in his arrest.

    Atawulla's two younger brothers have already been placed in what China calls re-education camps. In March 2018, his mother was taken into custody. “That’s what they do to Uighurs who have family members in other countries,” he says, referring to the Chinese authorities.

    His relatives are among the estimated 1 million Muslims — mostly Uighurs but also Kazakhs — who have been sent to internment camps since China tightened its grip on minorities in 2016. While Beijing insists the camps were set up to combat Islamic extremism, human rights organizations have decried them as indoctrination centers whose true objective is to subvert the identities of the country’s Turkic-speaking Muslim minorities and undermine their devotion to Islam.

    Atawulla came to Turkey thinking its stance on the Uighur question was clear: enduring brotherhood.

    Cultural and linguistic similarities have long united Turks and Uighurs, who view each other as distant if familiar cousins. Turkish nationalists regard Uighurs, along with the other Turkic peoples, as Turkey’s ethnic brethren. Because of such ties, Ankara had always been the prime defender of the Uighur cause on the world stage.

    So when the news came out about the mass detentions in China, Atawulla was stunned to see the Turkish government remain silent.

    Until now, Turkey was not only one of the only nations speaking out for the Uighurs’ plight, but it had also maintained an open-door policy toward them.

    Following Mao Zedong’s invasion of the region referred to by Uighurs as “East Turkestan” in 1949, Turkey took in its first wave of Uighur refugees. In 1952, about 1,850 of them were re-settled in designated areas in the cities of Istanbul and Kayseri. In 1961, Turkey accepted another 2,000 Uighur families who had first fled to Afghanistan after being driven out of a China by a decree that those with a foreign-born parent must leave.

    Neighborhoods such as Istanbul’s Zeytinburnu came to be known as Uighur areas, rife with restaurants serving the community’s customary laghman and pilaf.

    Among these émigrés was Isa Alptekin, the de facto leader of the Uighur nationalist movement in exile for most of the 20th century. The Turkish government sheltered Alptekin until his death in 1995.

    “Since the times of Ataturk, it had been a lot easier for us to move here and obtain citizenship compared to other immigrants,” contends Erkin Emet, a professor of the Uighur language at the University of Ankara and secretary of the World Uighur Congress, a Munich-based organization founded in 2006.

    In 2009, after violent riots broke out between Han Chinese and Uighurs in Urumqi, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, then prime minister, likened the ill treatment of the Uighurs to genocide. In January 2015, Turkey intervened in Thailand to rescue 500 Uighurs who had escaped from China and were spotted by Thai police in a human smuggling camp. At that time, China accused Turkish consular services of helping Uighurs escape from Thailand and Malaysia by providing them with fake passports.

    More recently, though, Ankara seems to have given up on the Turks' Uighur brothers.

    “For a few years, Turkey has stopped distributing passports or residency permits to Uighurs,” Emet says. “Now, we’re subject to the same rules as any other immigrants.”

    The president has also ceased to fulminate against the Chinese "oppressors" and pro-government media outlets now blatantly ignore Uighur-related news.

    This drastic change in policy goes hand in hand with a rapprochement between Turkey and China. As the Turkish government deepens economic ties with its Chinese counterpart through the Belt and Road Initiative and by welcoming direct investment, it appears to be yielding to pressure from Beijing.

    “After the economic crisis here, the Chinese government granted Turkey a loan of $3.6 billion,” remarks Emet. “That’s why no one reacted to the atrocities in the camps.”

    Like many Uighurs, Abduweli Ayup feels betrayed by their traditional patron. “The Chinese persecute us because we eat Turkish food, wear Turkish clothes and sing Turkish songs,” he says in a cafe in Fatih, a stone’s throw from Istanbul’s historic quarter.

    “Erdogan always says he defends the Muslims who are oppressed in the world. So why isn’t he doing anything for us?” he adds vociferously, attracting stares from Arab tourists a few tables away.

    A linguist, Ayup had worked to set up a network of Uighur-language schools until his arrest in August 2013. He was jailed on charges of taking part in separatist activities before being released in November 2014. Still, his schools were shut down and Chinese officials closely watched each move he made.

    Ayup moved to Turkey in 2015 hoping to find some respite, but to no avail. During his last interview with a journalist, he realized two Chinese spies were sitting behind him. And as Ayup was followed and threatened, his cries for help to Turkish officials fell on deaf ears.

    “They bother me all the time asking me to go back to China. The Chinese Embassy canceled my passport so the spies blackmail me, saying they’ll renew it if I cooperate. I can’t ask the police here for protection; it’s an open fact that calling them is useless.”

    Now effectively stateless, Ayup is stuck in Turkey, though he does not feel safe there. He fears the Turkish authorities will collaborate more actively with Chinese intelligence and would immediately leave for Germany if he could.

    Two months ago, he found out his two sisters and one of his brothers had been thrown into camps. The topic brings him to tears.

    When asked why he thinks Turkey has let his people down, Ayup pauses and sighs. “Money is evil,” he said.

    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...f-uighurs.html

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Another update. This is dark. . . . .

    BIG BROTHER WATCH

    Is China trying to erase the identity of the Uyghur people? Of the 10m Uyghurs in Xinjiang province, western China, around one in eight is now interned in a re-education camp, and the rest might as well be.

    China is using intense surveillance; street based facial recognition, QR-coding of homes, obligatory tissue typing and iris scanning, not to mention detention and re-education, to achieve an Orwellian level of control. Intelligence officials are allocated as ‘adopted’ family members, and digital devices have spyware installed. Uyghur rights groups say children are now being taken from their families, the Uyghur language is banned in schools and workplaces, mosques are being destroyed and there are restrictions on wearing a headscarf, growing facial hair and choosing culturally significant baby names.

    According to Human Rights Watch having to many children, owning a tent, watching a film made abroad, refusing to denounce family members speaking Uyghur in public, refusing tissue-typing, having a VPN (virtual private computer network) or making or receiving an international phone call can all result in indefinite internment.

    Personal citizenship scores are allocated based on behaviour. Fewer points mean heavy restrictions on everything from employment to freedom of movement. It is nearly impossible for Uyghurs to live outside Xinjian, since renting rooms to them is a crime. Uyghurs living overseas have lost contact with relatives back home, now knowing if they’re just afraid to respond, in detention or dead, Executions for ‘separatism’ are common, but in November a prominent Uyghur businessman, Abdughapar Abdurusul, was sentenced to death for performing the Hajj.

    The rest of the world, meanwhile, remains silent. Even Arab nations, vociferous in their criticism of ill treatment of Muslims Israel and Myanmar, seem unaware that 10 m Muslims are being corralled and controlled in Western China, rendered increasingly invisible as their cultural identity is carefully eradicated.

    Why does nobody object to this growing totalitarianism? In 1997, US President Bill Clinton confidently told China that repression left it on the wrong side of history; but in 2019 Big Trade speaks louder than rights and freedoms, and China is highly significant trading partner which spends untold billions around the world, not least in Middle Eastern Oil.

    It is not only governments that are silent however. Even private individuals are more complicit than they might realise. Mainstream western investment funds (on which most UK pensions rely) have profited from Chinese companies like surveillance camera makers Hikviosn and Dahua, whose share prices rose sharply thanks to massive snooping contracts in Xinjiang. Chinese facial recognition company SenseTime has attracted huge western investment and is not the worlds most valuable AI platform.

    Historically, the attempt to eliminate ethnic groups through oppression and ghettoization has been a precursor to physical genocide, attracting international outrage; but Chinas bloodless ethnic cleansing is more sophisticated and so avoid triggering those irritating accusations of crimes against humanity. Once people are contained their children re-educated and their cultural identity erased, time and patience will do the rest. Thus may the Uyghurs, crushed by the Chinese state and condemned by global indifference, go quietly into that good night.

    PE NO 1487



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    How cynical.

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Another update

    The War on Terror’s Reeducation Camps

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    Maryam Jamshidi

    After 9/11, Western governments launched a domestic war on terror to surveil and police Muslims. Now, China is using the same framework to justify reeducation camps and mass repression.



    Since 2016, China has placed approximately 2 million Uyghurs in detention centers for political reeducation, according to conservative estimates. The Uyghurs, who number around 10 million, are a Turkic minority living primarily in southwestern China. The official justification for their detention: fighting “Islamic extremism.”

    The detention centers are driven, at their heart, by the political needs of the China’s ruling class. But they are framed within a set of counter-terrorism policies, known as Countering Violent Extremism (CVE), liberal Western governments and intergovernmental institutions have advocated since 9/11.

    Though its precise contours vary by country and organization, CVE aims to prevent individuals from engaging in “terrorist” violence by addressing its purported ideological drivers. Like China’s detention centers, CVE is based on the notion that “extreme” beliefs, specifically Islamically inspired ones, are likely to lead to violence and threaten national security. Its goal is to counteract and ultimately eradicate those belief systems. CVE is, in essence, reeducation without the camps.

    The Chinese detention centers show the alarming consequences of CVE’s approach of using ideology as a proxy for violent behavior. They are a reminder that, in practice, these initiatives mask or avoid the systemic political problems, like dictatorship or war, that drive political violence. Their existence also challenges CVE advocates who claim that, notwithstanding its many problems, CVE is a kinder, gentler version of counter-terrorism and is better than “doing nothing.”

    Repressing the Uyghurs


    China’s repression of the Uyghur population has been happening for decades, though its justifications changed after 9/11. Some segments of the Uyghur population have been committed to the cause of independence since 1949, when China occupied the region known to Uyghurs as East Turkmenistan. Threatened by the region’s separatist tendencies, China implemented policies to eradicate expressions of the indigenous population’s identity. This included curbing adherence to Islam, to which the vast majority of Uyghurs subscribe.

    A series of violent attacks allegedly committed by members of the Uyghur community in 2013 and 2014 were the pretext for the latest crackdown and the emergence of the political reeducation camps. The Chinese government has used these centers before — they were a key feature of the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s and ’70s. While they continue to be utilized, in more limited ways, for petty criminals, the size and scope of the Uyghur reeducation program has not been seen since the Cultural Revolution’s end.

    As the New York Times has reported, the goal of these centers is to remove all attachments to Islam. Individuals are often sent to these camps for expressing any form of Islamic identity, no matter how mundane. According to former detainees and researchers, the detention centers feature interrogations about religious practices, require detainees to attend hours-long sessions about the “dangers” of Islam, and emphasize obeying Chinese law over Sharia.

    CVE

    The Chinese detention centers’ goal of ideological transformation is also central to CVE. CVE began in Britain in the early 2000s and has since spread to innumerable countries, including the United States, the UK, and various Muslim-majority states. It’s also been uncritically embraced by multilateral and intergovernmental institutions, like the UN.

    CVE is based on a theory of “radicalization” that claims that in order to become ”terrorists,” individuals must first embrace a way of thinking inclining them toward violence; that this “radicalization” can be predicted, in part, by theological and cultural factors; and that identifying these factors can help governments prevent terrorism. According to this philosophy, there is no distinction between so-called extreme beliefs and violence — the former, even if nonviolent, leads, inexorably, to the latter.

    Governments began adopting CVE as a counter-terrorism strategy in the early 2000s. It led to programs like the NYPD’s surveillance of Muslim communities in the greater New York area, which the Associated Press exposed in 2011. The NYPD’s surveillance of over 250 mosques and countless restaurants, cafes, community organizations, and student associations was driven by the CVE-influenced argument that “radicalization” is associated with indicators like“[w]earing traditional Islamic clothing, growing a beard,” or “[j]oining or forming a group of like-minded individuals in a quest to strengthen one’s dedication to Salafi Islam.”

    The federal government’s CVE program, which was launched in the early years of the Obama administration, did not openly link such cultural factors with violence. But in practice, it disproportionately focused on Muslim communities. To the extent the Trump administration has continued to pursue CVE, it has adopted an explicit and exclusive focus on Muslims.

    The British version of CVE, known as Prevent, has also been explicit in describing terrorism as associated with nonviolent ideological and cultural markers derived from so-called radical Islam. The Prevent program requires health professionals, teachers, and other public servants to monitor and report on individuals, including school children, displaying those markers. In general, the European approach to CVE embraces this “early prevention” model, which, in contrast to the US version, allows for intervention at the very first signs of nonviolent, “radical” thought.

    Nothing May Be Better


    There is no clear agreement on the definition of radicalization, extremism, or violent extremism, or how they relate to one another. Nor — despite all the money and research poured into CVE — is there any consensus on what leads individuals to participate in terrorism. Similarly, there is no evidence that belief systems, whether Islamic or otherwise, necessarily cause people to engage in violence. What the data does suggest, however, is that those who commit violent acts do not inevitably possess “radical” beliefs at all.

    As the last fifteen years have made clear, CVE is most useful as a way of criminalizing individual belief. At best, CVE programs co-opt communities to police ideologies states dislike. At worst, they lead to the Chinese model. Indeed, the only restrictions on CVE’s inevitably regressive consequences come from outside CVE itself, namely from preexisting civil and human rights laws. Even where meaningful civil rights and liberties do exist, CVE is inherently threatening to those protections. Where civil and human rights laws have been eroded, are meaningless, or nonexistent, CVE programs have served as tools of political repression, legitimizing restrictions on speech and political activism.

    As state practice has shown, CVE is a convenient way of “explaining” terrorism without having to address government policies, from hawkish foreign policy to authoritarian domestic practices, that are often the real targets of “terrorist” actors. While couched in terms of liberal values and community safety, CVE provides governments with the ideological justification to pursue preexisting agendas, instead of grounding their policies in empirical data.

    It is no wonder, then, that Chinese government officials have used the rhetoric of CVE to legitimate their detention centers, or that some have fallen for it. While rooted in domestic political conflicts and longstanding Chinese state practices, the reeducation camps represent the full expression of CVE, gloves off.

    Of course, supporting marginalized young people through education and employment opportunities, as some CVE programs encourage, is critical for any society. Embedding these programs within CVE, however, instrumentalizes those efforts for the sake of a “war on terror” that has wreaked havoc on civil rights worldwide. Far from being a holistic, humane program effective at preventing terrorism, CVE is a wolf in sheep’s clothing that aims to culturally transform Muslim identities. As China’s practices toward the Uyghurs stir public condemnation, they should also raise serious questions about whether CVE is, indeed, better than doing nothing at all.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/01/u...-war-on-terror

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    Is there is a change? Or is it a PR move?



    China’s largest Muslim ally broke ranks to criticize its repression of the Muslim Uighur minority

    • China has subjected its Uighur population, a majority-Muslim ethnic minority, to an unprecedented amount of surveillance and policing.
    • Beijing has insisted that this helps counter terrorism and prevent religious radicalism.
    • But earlier this week Pakistan's federal minister openly criticized those policies, saying that they actually fuel religious extremism.
    • It is the strongest condemnation of China's actions from a Muslim ally yet.
    • Pakistan is China's closest ally in the Muslim world.


    Pakistan, China's closest ally in the Muslim world, openly criticized its treatment of its Uighur population, a majority-Muslim ethnic minority living in the western Chinese region in Xinjiang, earlier this week.

    It marks the strongest condemnation of China's repression of the population yet.

    Noorul Haq Qadri, Pakistan's federal minister for religious affairs, warned that Beijing's strict regulation of Uighur activity fuels extremism rather than counters terrorism, Pakistani media reported.

    "The placement of restrictions increases the chances of an extremist viewpoint growing in reaction," Qadri told China's ambassador to Pakistan, Yao Xing, on Wednesday according to Dawn newspaper.

    His comments directly challenge China's justification of its crackdown on Xinjiang— known to Uighurs as East Turkestan — which are that it counters terrorism and is "training" people to avoid religious extremism.

    Qadri on Wednesday also called for a softer approach from Beijing to curb intolerance and promote religious harmony in Xinjiang, Pakistan's The Nation newspaper reported.

    He also proposed for Pakistani religious scholars to visit Xinjiang.

    Yao appeared to agree, reportedly saying: "Exchange of viewpoints between religious scholars of both countries is vital for better interfaith relations."

    Yao also invited Qadri to visit China, Dawn reported, although it's not clear whether this would entail a trip to Xinjiang.

    Rights activists in turn have accused China of imprisoning up to 1 million Uighurs in detention centers or re-education camps, and citing bogus excuses — from changing the time on a watch to growing a beard— for doing so.

    Li Xiaojun, a spokesman for China's state council information office, told reporters last week that sending Uighurs to detention centers was "not mistreatment," but "to establish professional training centers, educational centers."

    "If you do not say it's the best way, maybe it's the necessary way to deal with Islamic or religious extremism," Li said, according to Reuters. "Because the West has failed in doing so, in dealing with religious Islamic extremism."

    "Look at Belgium, look at Paris, look at some other European countries," he added, referring to terrorist attacks in Brussels and Paris carried out by Islamic extremists in 2015 and 2016. "You have failed."

    Beijing has also repeatedly insisted that Xinjiang residents lived in harmony and enjoyed religious freedom.

    The strongest criticism from China's biggest Muslim ally

    Whether China will allow Islamic scholars into Xinjiang is not clear, and the likelihood of its curbing its surveillance on Uighurs is unlikely — Beijing told the UN human rights chief, Michelle Bachelet, to back off after she called for international monitors to be let into Xinjiang earlier this month.

    But the fact that Pakistan brought up the Uighur issue to China is worth noting. Qadri's comments marked the strongest criticism China has received from a Muslim nation over its Uighur policies.

    Experts have told Business Insider that this is likely because they don't want to jeopardize their economic relationships with China — particularly as China pours more and more money into the Belt and Road Initiative, which aims to link China to more than 70 countries around the world via railroads, shipping lanes, and other infrastructure.

    Turkey spoke out against China's treatment of Uighurs in 2009 and 2015, which resulted in Beijing repeatedly warning Istanbul not to "twist facts" or "poison ties and derail cooperation" between the two countries.

    Whether Islamabad will suffer the same fate is not clear. Pakistan is China's biggest economic ally in the Muslim world, with the two countries forming in 2013 the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor — a massive $62 billion partnership consisting of transport and energy projects.

    China has invested between $1 trillion and $8 trillion in its BRI deals around the world, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The BRI is one of Xi Jinping's pet projects.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/paki...18-9?r=US&IR=T

    Concrete action being taken.

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    do you know what happened to people of Noah, Lut, Hud, Salih, Shuayb (aleyhi salam) and others mentioned in the Quran?
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    do you know what happened to people of Noah, Lut, Hud, Salih, Shuayb (aleyhi salam) and others mentioned in the Quran?
    Asalamu Alaikum

    Shhhhh, why would you want to warn them lol?
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Quote Originally Posted by Alamgir View Post
    Asalamu Alaikum Shhhhh, why would you want to warn them lol?

    Wa'alaykum Assalam




    : )
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    United States presidential white house to consider china sanctions bill in light of uighur rights violations. (my own commentary: but will they when china holds 3 trillion dollars of us debt)? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-human-rights/

    also, the US federal government is undergoing a massive shutdown thanks to trump's border wall

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    a statement directly from the white house website, with mike pence condemning china's abuses of religious minorities, including uighurs: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...gious-freedom/

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    Another update



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    Things have gone really bad in China, now they are going after Hui muslims as well.

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    Turkey should have taken Uighur refugees from detention centres instead of the Syrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post

    Turkey should have taken Uighur refugees from detention centres instead of the Syrians.
    Turkish nationalists say the same thing and that is one of the millions of reasons they hate the current government. But China wont agree us ofcourse. We might have Islamically legitimate reason to conquer China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Turkish nationalists say the same thing and that is one of the millions of reasons they hate the current government. But China wont agree us ofcourse. We might have Islamically legitimate reason to conquer China.
    Well some of the grey wolves have cozied uptown the AKP, thanks to Bahceli.

    And they have very valid reason to want the Syrians out and the Uighurs in. Syrian men should be trained to go back and fight, not act like drunk Arabic belly dancers on New Year's day.

    Erdogan is walking a a thin plank. One Cologne incident in Turkey and his popularity will plunge under the 40%.

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    Another update


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    https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/p...n-camp-3474170

    Abdurrehim Heyit was a famous Uyghur folk singer. He most probably died because of the torture. Zalimun will pay the price one day.
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    seriously no muslim country will even take uighur prisoners? Urumqi is lost, land is lost, the people can still be saved.

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    Salaam

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    Blurb


    China's treatment of the Uighurs is a scandal, and we should all be paying more attention. This video goes through the Sci-Fi hellscape China has constructed in Xinjiang, and what we should do about it.




    Turkey responds.

    China's treatment of Uighurs is 'embarrassment for humanity', says Turkey

    Ankara calls for UN to act on ‘human tragedy’ of re-education of the Turkic-speaking minority in Xinjiang province


    Turkey has condemned China’s treatment of its Muslim ethnic Uighur people as “a great embarrassment for humanity”, adding to rights groups’ recent criticism over mass detentions of the Turkic-speaking minority.

    Aksoy also said Turkey had learned of the “tragic” death in custody on Saturday of Uighur poet and musician Abdurehim Heyit.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ty-says-turkey

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    A video has been released after reports emerged of Uighur singer Abdurehim Heyit's death in a Chinese internment camp. It purports to show Heyit alive, but in prison. Prisons have sprung up across north-west China, housing more than one million Muslims in what China has called "re-education camps."

    The reported death of Heyit has now prompted the first rebuke from a Muslim-majority nation. Turkey called the "re-introduction of interment camps in the 21st century – a great shame for humanity" and asked China to "close the internment camps." Reports of the death of Heyit however, prompted for the first time, a rebuke from a majority Muslim nation, Turkey. It called the ‘re-introduction of interment camps in the 21st century – a great shame for humanity’ and asked China to ‘close the internment camps’.




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