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    Like to share, very informative

    Focus on Europe



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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

    I understand that you are from Indonesia but I didnt understand why you chose this thread to complain about your goverment. Do you think it has a connection with Turkey? Turkey is ruled by a capitalist puppet.
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    Another update, Erdogan has been relected, some commentary.

    Anwar: Erdogan’s win a victory for the Islamic world

    PKR adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim has hailed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s recent electoral win as a “victory for the Islamic world”.

    In a letter congratulating Erdogan on winning a second term in the recent presidential election, Anwar said Turkey’s progress and its place in the world would be more assured under Erdogan’s “dynamic stewardship”.

    “I am also convinced that your victory is also a victory for the Islamic world in portraying a modern and progressive face of Islam that embraces change while not compromising on the values of our faith and the fundamental teachings of the Holy Prophet,” he said.

    Anwar also congratulated the people of Turkey for their peaceful participation in their nation’s democratic process.

    “The resounding mandate given by the people is a testament to your leadership of not only Turkey, but the region during trying times,” he said.

    “I am convinced that your commitment to democracy, the continued betterment of the Turkish people, the promotion of peace and the eradication of subversive elements which were key election promises by the AK party contributed greatly to your victory this second time around,” he added.

    Under Erdogan, the Turkish government has either taken over or shut down media organisations, while thousands of people have been detained since a coup attempt in 2016.

    Thanks to a referendum last year, Erdogan will assume major new powers under Turkey's new constitution, among them the power to directly appoint top public officials and to intervene in the country's judiciary.

    His critics say this would place too much power in the executive, undermining the checks and balances needed for a properly functioning democracy.

    Erdogan however argues that he needs this kind of authority to address the country’s economic woes and to defeat Kurdish rebels.

    Meanwhile, Anwar said Erdogan’s declaration of “one nation, one flag, one country, one state” in his victory speech is the true mark of a statesman in bringing together opposing sides after a hard-fought election.

    “As you know, we here in Malaysia too are going through an unprecedented chapter in our nation’s history following the victory of my coalition party for the first time.

    “Closing ranks and uniting different factions is our first task in taking our nation forward.

    “As you begin your second term as President, I am looking forward to continuing our working relationship, although this time not as Malaysian’s opposition leader but as a participant in Malaysia’s new government and leadership,” Anwar said.

    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/06/25/anwar-erdogan-victory-a-victory-for-the-islamic-world/

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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

    What he says is generally true. The goverment of AKP brought a new fresh air to Turkey's economy in their early periods (before 2010s) but today the Turkish economy is crawling. Dollar and Euro increased 20% in the last two months. A great economic crisis is coming here. AKP's votes as a party have already decreased from %49 to %42 but Erdoğan was clever enough to see that from one year ago and he took MHP (Nationalist Movement Party) to their side and individually got %52 votes in the presidential vote.
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    Erdogan is a failure and the real winners here is Iran while his opposition is admittedly quite bad, Erdogan is the most harmful to the Muslims because he causes confusion his true intentions are hidden while his opposition is openly and easily identified as bad. Erdogan's victory spells out continued suffering for Syria and the continued support of Iran.
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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    Erdogan is a failure and the real winners here is Iran while his opposition is admittedly quite bad, Erdogan is the most harmful to the Muslims because he causes confusion his true intentions are hidden while his opposition is openly and easily identified as bad. Erdogan's victory spells out continued suffering for Syria and the continued support of Iran.
    Perhaps you should take time and look yourself in the mirror before casting stones.

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    Btw I am not trying to defend Erdoğan. He is responsible of that..

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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Salaam



    Perhaps you should take time and look yourself in the mirror before casting stones.
    He's a useful idiot for Russia
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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    A little off, topic but this is disheartening.



    Blurb

    When German footballer Mesut Ozil decided to quit the national team, a major debate on racism erupted. Ozil, who is of Turkish descent, says he suffered “racism and disrespect”. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she values him as a great footballer who did a lot for the national team.




    Mesut Ozil agent hits back at Bayern Munich president for welcoming midfielder's international retirement

    'Mr Hoeness cannot even provide any actual evidence to back up his foolish statements that are clearly exaggerated'


    Mesut Ozil‘s agent has condemned Uli Hoeness as a “disgrace” after the Bayern Munich president accused the Arsenal midfielder of having been “crap for years” following his retirement from international football.

    In a lengthy statement posted on Twitter on Sunday evening, Ozil – a third-generation Turkish-German who was born in Gelsenkirchen – accused the German Football Association of treating him with “racism and disrespect”.

    Ozil claimed German FA (DFB) chiefs wanted him “out of the team” before the start of the World Cup, due to the emergence of a photograph featuring him with Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    The picture led to criticism of Ozil in Germany. According to the player, only the intervention of head coach Low and team manager Oliver Bierhoff ensured he would then take part in Russia.

    Ozil, who won 92 caps for Germany, also revealed he and his family had received hate mail and threatening phone calls and been subjected to social media abuse.

    Nevertheless, Bayern president Hoeness, who won the World Cup with West Germany in 1974, found little sympathy with the midfielder when asked for his views on Ozil’s decision.

    Quoted by German newspaper Bild, Hoeness said: “I’m glad this nightmare is over. He has been playing crap for years.

    “The last tackle he won was before the 2014 World Cup – and now he is hiding himself and his poor performances behind this photo.”

    Ozil’s agent, Dr Erkut Sogut, has since hit back at Hoeness, labelling his comments as “foolish” while describing the Bayern president as a “disgrace”.

    “The comments of Mr Hoeness miss the point completely, as they have absolutely nothing to do with football. He is trying to divert attention away from the real issue, the issue of racism and discrimination in Germany, which is resurging once again within everyday German society,” he told Goal.

    “As Mesut said in his statement, he accepts reasonable and fair criticism of his football, and deals with that as part of the job. However, Mr Hoeness cannot even provide any actual evidence to back up his foolish statements that are clearly exaggerated.

    “Mr Hoeness, we will not waste any more time or energy talking about a subject clearly you know nothing about. Not only is he a disgrace to yourself, but also and more importantly a shame to German football and the people of Germany.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/mesut-ozil-retires-retirement-bayern-munich-president-agent-germany-arsenal-latest-updates-a8461091.html

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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Another update

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    After being elected into another term in June 2018, President Erdogan of Turkey is getting ready to construct an ambitious new waterway on the European side of Istanbul. The canal will be the third megaproject in the city after a new continent-crossing bridge was completed in 2016 and the world’s largest airport will be finished by the end of the year. Yet, the government’s vision for a new canal also carries extensive geo-economic consequences for the Black Sea domain.


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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Like to share, good back ground information and quite even handed.

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    Why did Erdogan come to power in Turkey? How did a state that had secularism written into its very constitution come to tilt towards Islamism? This video examines the politics of Turkey throughout the 20th century, and how conditions led to the publics embrace of an Islamist political party: the AKP.



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    The last video covered the appeal of Erdogan to the masses, and situated Erdogan in the broader context of modern Turkish history. This video focuses on how Erdogan has successfully consolidated his power, and avoided being ousted by the military, as many have been before him. The video will address the Ergenekon trials, Erdogan's opposition, the Gezi Park rallies, the Gulen movement, and of course, the recent coup attempt.



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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    What going on here?

    Escalating sanctions could cripple Turkey’s economy

    Russian example highlights the importance of an independent central bank


    Last week, the US Treasury announced sanctions against two Turkish cabinet ministers over the detention of an American pastor. This did not come as a bolt from the blue: in the past few years, Turkey has often been at odds with the EU and US in both its domestic and foreign policies.

    US president Donald Trump has previously threatened Turkey with sanctions if it goes ahead with its plan to purchase an S-400 missile system from Russia, and the US is investigating state-controlled Halkbank for breaches of Iranian sanctions. Now Bloomberg is reporting that the US has also prepared a broader list of Turkish entities and individuals that could be subject to further sanctions.

    To predict how Turkey would fare, we should look to the experience of the Russian economy after Russia annexed Crimea in March 2014. At the time, its economic growth was near its potential, it had low debt levels and the central bank held net foreign exchange reserves of $470bn. But the “biting” EU and US sanctions introduced after the invasion triggered a currency crisis, followed by a two-year recession. Russian institutions were cut off from international capital markets and unable to roll over their debt. Demand for forex soared. The crisis combined with falling oil prices to force a 50 per cent devaluation in the rouble against the dollar.

    Fortunately for the economy, President Vladimir Putin had delegated economic policy to a team of technocrats. The central bank courageously floated the rouble and raised its policy rate by 750 basis points in late 2014. Containing the crisis came at a cost: the government ran down one of its sovereign wealth funds, and the central bank’s net forex reserves fell by more than $150bn. However, Russia avoided capital controls and the central bank enhanced its reputation for independence.

    In contrast, Turkey’s overheated economy expanded by over 7 per cent in 2017. This was accompanied by a widening current account deficit and moderate growth of the budget deficit. Although Turkey’s public debt is relatively modest, external debt is much higher as a percentage of gross domestic product than that of Russia in 2014. Unlike Russia, Turkey does not have a sizeable fiscal or foreign exchange cushion. With its net foreign exchange reserves of only $74bn, the Turkish central bank has very limited ability to help local businesses refinance forex debt.

    Crucially, Turkey is as dependent on investment flows as Russia is on oil. Global investor flight from emerging market assets has weakened the Turkish lira by 25 per cent versus the dollar this year. This has fuelled inflation and made further lira depreciation highly undesirable for Turkish authorities.

    I think that the new US sanctions have increased the odds of a balance-of-payments crisis in Turkey. I worry about the heavily indebted corporate sector. Turkish banks have about $55bn in forex deposits but they face heavy external debt repayments in the next 12 months. Both Turkish banks and companies need to retain access to external markets.

    To regain investor trust, Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan would do well to follow Mr Putin’s example by putting experts in charge of economic policy, and allowing the central bank to reassert its independence. But Turkey’s shift in July to a more powerful executive presidency leaves little hope for independent institutions. Last month, the central bank eschewed another rate hike despite soaring inflation; its decision came right after Mr Erdogan predicted that rates were poised to fall, which unsettled the markets.

    Mr Erdogan hopes that Turkey will attract more loans from China and other emerging market countries, much as Russia has done. But the Russian experience shows that some foreign direct investment may be substituted, but that takes time. Turkey needs to repair its relationship with the west quickly to avoid a larger crisis.

    https://www.ft.com/content/45b379ec-...e-49c908b1f264
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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Another update, more comment.

    Turkey hits back over US sanctions

    Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has announced retaliatory measures against the US after it decided to impose sanctions on two Turkish ministers over the arrest of a US Pastor residing in Turkey.[1]

    American Christian missionary Andrew Brunson who had been running a church in Izmir on Turkey’s western coast, was arrested in October 2016.

    Brunson was alleged to have been involved in spying for the PKK (which both countries consider a terrorist organisation)[2] and colluding with the “Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation” (FETO) which is said to have been behind the failed coup in 2016.[3] [4]

    On Wednesday, Washington imposed sanctions on two Turkish ministers in retaliation for the arrest of Pastor Brunson.

    In response President Erdoğan instructed the freezing of assets of the US “justice and interior” ministers and remarked that the Turkish nation will not step back because of “threatening rhetoric and silly decisions” of sanctions.

    This is the latest in a series of small diplomatic spats between the two countries who were once closer allies. Decades ago this incident may have played out very differently where a dominant USA would have found a country ready to accede to almost every request.

    However, under the leadership of President Erdoğan, Turkey has been transformed into a political, military and economic powerhouse. In the past Erdoğan has strongly criticised and urged reform on the UN Security Council by saying that the ‘World is bigger than Five’.



    This latest incident has been described as a sign of Turkey’s growing and substantial global presence. Indeed, for many Muslims Erdoğan is seen as the de facto leader of the Muslim world, occupying the role that Saudi Arabia once played, but has since vacated.

    The Evangelical Christian lobby in the USA is particularly exercised by Pastor Brunson’s arrest and is also a significant source of support for Donald Trump.[5]

    As such, Trump cannot be seen to accede to Turkey. Trump tweeted that it was a “disgrace” that this “wonderful Christian husband and father” had been held “hostage” by the Turkish authorities.[6]

    Equally, President Erdoğan can ill afford to appear weak on this issue, especially given the reforms in Turkey, under Erdoğan, that has led to a demonstrable democratisation of the country. [7]

    Previously, power in Turkey was centralised with the military, however through the latest reforms in governance, approved by the electorate, the power has shifted to the political sphere.

    President Erdoğan is no stranger to realpolitik, look no further than his relationship with Putin following the downing of the Russian fighter jet.[8]

    However, given that Trump’s appreciation of nuance is even less than Putin’s, this diplomatic tiff is likely to continue to fester.

    https://www.islam21c.com/news/turkey-hits-back-over-us-sanctions/

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    Re: Geopolitics of Turkey - Europe, Asia

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    Salaam

    Another update, more comment.

    Turkey hits back over US sanctions

    Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has announced retaliatory measures against the US after it decided to impose sanctions on two Turkish ministers over the arrest of a US Pastor residing in Turkey.[1]

    American Christian missionary Andrew Brunson who had been running a church in Izmir on Turkey’s western coast, was arrested in October 2016.

    Brunson was alleged to have been involved in spying for the PKK (which both countries consider a terrorist organisation)[2] and colluding with the “Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation” (FETO) which is said to have been behind the failed coup in 2016.[3] [4]

    On Wednesday, Washington imposed sanctions on two Turkish ministers in retaliation for the arrest of Pastor Brunson.

    In response President Erdoğan instructed the freezing of assets of the US “justice and interior” ministers and remarked that the Turkish nation will not step back because of “threatening rhetoric and silly decisions” of sanctions.

    This is the latest in a series of small diplomatic spats between the two countries who were once closer allies. Decades ago this incident may have played out very differently where a dominant USA would have found a country ready to accede to almost every request.

    However, under the leadership of President Erdoğan, Turkey has been transformed into a political, military and economic powerhouse. In the past Erdoğan has strongly criticised and urged reform on the UN Security Council by saying that the ‘World is bigger than Five’.



    This latest incident has been described as a sign of Turkey’s growing and substantial global presence. Indeed, for many Muslims Erdoğan is seen as the de facto leader of the Muslim world, occupying the role that Saudi Arabia once played, but has since vacated.

    The Evangelical Christian lobby in the USA is particularly exercised by Pastor Brunson’s arrest and is also a significant source of support for Donald Trump.[5]

    As such, Trump cannot be seen to accede to Turkey. Trump tweeted that it was a “disgrace” that this “wonderful Christian husband and father” had been held “hostage” by the Turkish authorities.[6]

    Equally, President Erdoğan can ill afford to appear weak on this issue, especially given the reforms in Turkey, under Erdoğan, that has led to a demonstrable democratisation of the country. [7]

    Previously, power in Turkey was centralised with the military, however through the latest reforms in governance, approved by the electorate, the power has shifted to the political sphere.

    President Erdoğan is no stranger to realpolitik, look no further than his relationship with Putin following the downing of the Russian fighter jet.[8]

    However, given that Trump’s appreciation of nuance is even less than Putin’s, this diplomatic tiff is likely to continue to fester.

    https://www.islam21c.com/news/turkey...-us-sanctions/
    "Erdogan the leader of the Muslim world", anyone who fails to realize how ridiculous this is failing themselves and their deen. Erdogan is not a uniter he is a divider and has successfully manipulated his way through deception and acting to this "position". What has Erdogan actually done to benefit the Muslims? Why is it in Syria it's okay for him to support the rebels while in Iraq, which has a government that openly supports Assad and is 100% backed by Iran he chooses to support the Iraqi government and their filthy allied "Popular Mobilization" Basij wannabe death squads? What projects has he done in support of the Muslims? Is it that he likes to talk about supporting Palestine? Is this how cheap and easy Muslims are? You can rape, murder, steal and do the most evil things on the face of this planet so long as you go along with the pro-Palestine narrative? Is it that someone can murder your mother but you still support them because they cry fake tears for Palestine?

    Where is Erdogan when it comes to Egypt and the abuses of Sisi? Or how about Iran? Last time I checked he had no problem whatsoever shaking hands with Rouhani and talking about how they're going to divide and conquer Syria among themselves. Or in Yemen where is his involvement in the war on the Houthis? Why is there still Turkish soldiers in Afghanistan instead of in Yemen? Anyone who is upright would hate the PKK, but what is his hatred based on? Personal interests, the PKK for him is a tool as is Gulen they are excuses for him.

    Do you think Erdogan invaded Syria to benefit Syrians? Because the evidence suggests not, where was he for Aleppo? He was ordering the withdrawal of men to go fight in his campaign, the battle of Aleppo was almost a victory but Erdogan he didn't care all he cared about was pleasing the international community and building up his position as Turkey's leader the "New Sultan". Why is it when the Syrian military along with Russian forces, the IRGC and Hezbollah launched a massive offensive in Idlib, Erdogan suddenly decided to launch an operation in Afrin, yet again withdrawing fighters from the front lines with the army of Bashar and the Party of Satan to go fight in Afrin?

    Why is it okay for Erdogan to allow his intelligence agency to assassinate Muslims and divide the people of Idlib? Who does this benefit while he builds more "observation points" right next to Russian and Iranian bases while the latter continue their aggressive airstrike and shelling campaigns across Idlib, why has Erdogan not even lifted a finder in opposition as the so called "Guarantor of the de-escalation agreement"? It's because he's too busy ordering the total division of the ranks in Idlib right before, all while Assad and his pack of thugs are planning a very bloody slaughter for Idlib.

    Erdogan is a prostitute for Russia.
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    يا قافلة الخير
    "The Persian aggression against Iraq was a result of the arrogant, racialist and evil attitudes of the ruling clique in Iran."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    "Erdogan the leader of the Muslim world", anyone who fails to realize how ridiculous this is failing themselves and their deen. Erdogan is not a uniter he is a divider and has successfully manipulated his way through deception and acting to this "position". What has Erdogan actually done to benefit the Muslims? Why is it in Syria it's okay for him to support the rebels while in Iraq, which has a government that openly supports Assad and is 100% backed by Iran he chooses to support the Iraqi government and their filthy allied "Popular Mobilization" Basij wannabe death squads? What projects has he done in support of the Muslims? Is it that he likes to talk about supporting Palestine? Is this how cheap and easy Muslims are? You can rape, murder, steal and do the most evil things on the face of this planet so long as you go along with the pro-Palestine narrative? Is it that someone can murder your mother but you still support them because they cry fake tears for Palestine?

    Where is Erdogan when it comes to Egypt and the abuses of Sisi? Or how about Iran? Last time I checked he had no problem whatsoever shaking hands with Rouhani and talking about how they're going to divide and conquer Syria among themselves. Or in Yemen where is his involvement in the war on the Houthis? Why is there still Turkish soldiers in Afghanistan instead of in Yemen? Anyone who is upright would hate the PKK, but what is his hatred based on? Personal interests, the PKK for him is a tool as is Gulen they are excuses for him.

    Do you think Erdogan invaded Syria to benefit Syrians? Because the evidence suggests not, where was he for Aleppo? He was ordering the withdrawal of men to go fight in his campaign, the battle of Aleppo was almost a victory but Erdogan he didn't care all he cared about was pleasing the international community and building up his position as Turkey's leader the "New Sultan". Why is it when the Syrian military along with Russian forces, the IRGC and Hezbollah launched a massive offensive in Idlib, Erdogan suddenly decided to launch an operation in Afrin, yet again withdrawing fighters from the front lines with the army of Bashar and the Party of Satan to go fight in Afrin?

    Why is it okay for Erdogan to allow his intelligence agency to assassinate Muslims and divide the people of Idlib? Who does this benefit while he builds more "observation points" right next to Russian and Iranian bases while the latter continue their aggressive airstrike and shelling campaigns across Idlib, why has Erdogan not even lifted a finder in opposition as the so called "Guarantor of the de-escalation agreement"? It's because he's too busy ordering the total division of the ranks in Idlib right before, all while Assad and his pack of thugs are planning a very bloody slaughter for Idlib.

    Erdogan is a prostitute for Russia.
    I agree with you for this time only except the last sentence. Erdoğan is trying to establish his own sultanate and he is open to anyone else, not only Putin. If America gives him what he wants he will kick Russia on the next day. Now America is nervous because of Turkey ‘s ongoing relations with Russia and china. That pastor is just a tool for the sanctions. America is preparing a long term war with these two and doesnt want Turkey to be on their side
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    By the way the current develuation of the Turkish Lira has little to do with the sanctions. Turkish economy was already falling down for a long time. One Dollar was less than 4 Lira one year ago but today it became 5.35 Lira. However MR Erdoğan is keep telling us thats not important and temporary. He is just fooling people.
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    1 USD became 5.72 TL today.. Hail the sultan !!! I think he just thinks that ruling a country is like a game. He will soon see the reality...
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    Salaam

    Yes, I'm really concerned whats happening in Turkey



    I really don't think this is a good idea

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    Reuters reports that President Tayyip Erdogan appointed his son-in-law as Turkey’s finance minister on Monday, hours after he was sworn in with sweeping new executive powers. Erdogan named his son-in-law Berat Albayrak as treasury and finance minister in an updated cabinet that excluded former deputy prime minister Mehmet Simsek, who was seen as the main market-friendly minister in the previous government.



    Having said all this, its easy to throw rocks, Id like to get perspective from Erdogan supporters. So I can get the complete picture of whats going on. A lot of Western elites are not happy that Turkey is slipping out of (their) grasp.

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    Erdoğan made the Turkish economy dependant on the foreign money and investment since long time ago. His company built all those roads and bridges but they did not built new factories. Erdoğan sold them old public factories under their prices and some of them are closed now. Turkish economy turned to a consumer economy instead of a productive economy. We have long been waiting for such an end. Those supporters will tell you the cliche that everything is done by some sinister powers to discredit Erdoğan but they fail to see that even if thats the case still its his fault to put the country’s economy in such a risky position.
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    Salaam

    I have to reluctantly agree with you, it reminds me of the pathetic Blair.



    Having said that I do like some of Erdogans policies (keeping the seculars in line, revival of Ottoman culture, helping Syrian refugees, speaking out for the Palestinians, generally acting more as a sovereign nation etc), though I think he has been corrupted by having so much power reminds me of this saying.

    'Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely'

    The same phenomena happens in the UK as well, UK used to have a large manufacturing base but now is heavily skewed towards the service sector and consuming. Its similar in the USA as well.

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    Sometimes I wonder why its so hard for countries to act in a sovereign manner and make the right long term decisions (globalism? etc).
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