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Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Unfortunately, the land of Hijaz is starting to follow the kuffar in their customs and behaviors.
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    "When a person sees the road as too long, he weakens in his walk." - Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Why in medina honestly. Out of all the cities they chose medina.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Salaam

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Unfortunately, the land of Hijaz is starting to follow the kuffar in their customs and behaviors.
    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Why in medina honestly. Out of all the cities they chose medina.
    slaves of kuffar can do anything to please them

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Salaam

    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Why in medina honestly. Out of all the cities they chose medina.
    Yes but then again it makes perfect sense. Globalists have targeted Islam for destruction, and what a better way to start than to defile its sacred cities.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    This can't be true
    Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    قال النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم:*الـحياءُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ الاِيِمَانِ*
    و قال ايضا:*الحياء لاياتى الا بخير
    و قال ايضا:*اذا لم تستحي،فاصنع ما شئت*

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    allah said no compulsion. nothing wrong with a fashion show, as long as its modest.

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    allah said no compulsion. nothing wrong with a fashion show, as long as its modest.
    You've changed the definition of modesty....
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    You've changed the definition of modesty....
    how did I change it? theres only one definition, many interpretations tho.

    fashion business is halal business. as long as theres modesty.

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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    how did I change it? theres only one definition, many interpretations tho.fashion business is halal business. as long as theres modesty.
    Who say fashion show is halal..? Plz quote them ...? (fashion designing and and fashion are two different things)
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    allah said no compulsion. nothing wrong with a fashion show, as long as its modest.
    If its womens only or mens only fine.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Who say fashion show is halal..? Plz quote them ...? (fashion designing and and fashion are two different things)
    allah did not deem fashion shows haram. allah knows best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    If its womens only or mens only fine.
    yes ☝️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    allah did not deem fashion shows haram. allah knows best.- - - Updated - - -yes ☝️
    Deen is what is in Quran and hadith. Can you prove it from these sources.? No, never. Then why do you claim which isn't proven..?
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Deen is what is in Quran and hadith. Can you prove it from these sources.? No, never. Then why do you claim which isn't proven..?
    Well its a sunnah to look good. I mean fashion and expressing yourself isnt haram if done in a wrong way. I mean a fashion show today seeks to promote the sellers clothing, correct? Not to promote haram etc.( ofc im talking a halal fashion show with halal clothes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Well its a sunnah to look good. I mean fashion and expressing yourself isnt haram if done in a wrong way. I mean a fashion show today seeks to promote the sellers clothing, correct? Not to promote haram etc.( ofc im talking a halal fashion show with halal clothes)
    No, fashion show can't be halal. What is halal fashion show? You mean only ladies will be allowed..? Do you know shirk was started in form of sketches which ultimately changed into idols. Today we agree on lesser evil tomorrow we will be agree on bigger evil.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    No, fashion show can't be halal. What is halal fashion show? You mean only ladies will be allowed..? Do you know shirk was started in form of sketches which ultimately changed into idols. Today we agree on lesser evil tomorrow we will be agree on bigger evil.
    A models job is to show clothes. No one worships models. And yes im talking gender segregated mens ones and womens ones.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Deen is what is in Quran and hadith. Can you prove it from these sources.? No, never. Then why do you claim which isn't proven..?
    With this logic, you can deem cars and their advertisements to be haram, Computers, Restaurants, Air Conditioning and much more ... All of these things were never mentioned in Quran or Sunna ... Doesnt make them haram. Whats haram is us using it in the haram or to promote whats haram. The bases of all things is that they are halal except that which Allah has clearly forbidden in his Book and the Sunna. And those things that are debatable in islam, we should avoid, and if you see people doing any of the shubuhaat then u should advice them against it ... If they dont take your advice you should never force them to as there would be no clear evidence on its prohibition.

    In general, things that started to exist after islam should all be halal except that which conflicts with the well established rulings of islam. In the case of fashion shows, if the show doesnt include any exposure of awra, sexual enticement, or haram music then it should be fine in general. Unless your telling me there is an explicit saheeh hadith that says fashions shows or anything similar to it is haram
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Assalamu Alaikum,

    I don't think the issue is the fashion show itself. There are many events and projects all over the kingdom. It seems the issue is that the fashion show is open to everyone (both men and women) which would deem it a haram event. It isn't clearly stated though, but I wouldn't expect there'd be an issue over a simple fashion show unless there were some things going on there that were deemed unacceptable. Secondly, if indeed it is a fashion show where men and women are attending, it means that not only is there mixing but that women are put on display possibly wearing provocative or revealing clothing, or even just put on display in general for men to critique and watch, and it also probably means there would have been music playing. So I can see where the anger can come from and it's well deserved because there are plenty of other cities where it could have been held or done in a different more acceptable way. Madinah is a very serene and beautiful city with not much going on. People go there mainly for work or worship, so to make this type of event there is like desecrating it's integrity.
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    Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    A models job is to show clothes. No one worships models. And yes im talking gender segregated mens ones and womens ones.
    I know none worship models. It was just an example for accepting lesser evil that entails bigger evil.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChosenTCO View Post
    With this logic, you can deem cars and their advertisements to be haram, Computers, Restaurants, Air Conditioning and much more ... All of these things were never mentioned in Quran or Sunna ... Doesnt make them haram. Whats haram is us using it in the haram or to promote whats haram. The bases of all things is that they are halal except that which Allah has clearly forbidden in his Book and the Sunna. And those things that are debatable in islam, we should avoid, and if you see people doing any of the shubuhaat then u should advice them against it ... If they dont take your advice you should never force them to as there would be no clear evidence on its prohibition.

    In general, things that started to exist after islam should all be halal except that which conflicts with the well established rulings of islam. In the case of fashion shows, if the show doesnt include any exposure of awra, sexual enticement, or haram music then it should be fine in general. Unless your telling me there is an explicit saheeh hadith that says fashions shows or anything similar to it is haram
    He said:

    ''allah did not deem fashion shows haram''

    according to him Allah allows fashion show. He swt didn't deem it haram. (astaghfirullah)

    Being it halal must be mentioned either in Quran or hadith.

    Do you agree to his claim..?

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