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    Venezuela - regime change?

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    Americans are interested in more 'regime' change'. This time in Venezuela, short video that will get you up to speed on the situation (American perspective).

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    Donald Trump may be the main thing keeping Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro going...

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    I'm hoping Donald Trump invades Venezuela and liberates the Venezuelans. Maduro needs to be stopped. The oppression, bloodshed and starvation needs to be stopped. I met someone who had Venezuelan friends who thought Maduro was a nasty dictator. I support the invasion. Bring it on, Trump! @Junon quit with the anti american crap. you Muslims always beg america to come help in places like east turkestan and syria.......but venezuela? no, they're kaafir. libya? secularist uprising. afghanistan? nah, wouldn't wanna upset the woman beating and little girl raping and education-denying taleban. (and burqa loving). somalia? wouldn't wanna upset....you know......the group who was blamed for the inside job that led to "more converts than 40 years of dawah" according to one man on ummah forum? iraq? ew....shias in power.....no khilafa....admit it, youre a terrorist sympathizer. you even added a piece about the taleban on here titled "150,000 americans couldn't beat us and quoted media backed by the turkish government, which is responsible for most of the terrorism in this world including boko haram, accoridng to wiretapped calls (i am referring to TRT world) you can't have your cake and eat it too. either join britain and be a patriotic, contributing citizen, or go home. quit being an immigration leech. and besides, do you even have a job? all i ever see is you posting on here, just like me, who also doesn't have a job, and hardly any classes. i suspect you are a troll and i know what sector of society you work for but i can't name it cause ill get my butt in trouble.
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    Turkey, Russia, China are with Maduro. Maduro is going nowhere, Insha'Allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto View Post
    I'm hoping Donald Trump invades Venezuela and liberates the Venezuelans. Maduro needs to be stopped. The oppression, bloodshed and starvation needs to be stopped. I met someone who had Venezuelan friends who thought Maduro was a nasty dictator. I support the invasion. Bring it on, Trump! @Junon quit with the anti american crap. you Muslims always beg america to come help in places like east turkestan and syria.......but venezuela? no, they're kaafir. libya? secularist uprising. afghanistan? nah, wouldn't wanna upset the woman beating and little girl raping and education-denying taleban. (and burqa loving). somalia? wouldn't wanna upset....you know......the group who was blamed for the inside job that led to "more converts than 40 years of dawah" according to one man on ummah forum? iraq? ew....shias in power.....no khilafa....admit it, youre a terrorist sympathizer. you even added a piece about the taleban on here titled "150,000 americans couldn't beat us and quoted media backed by the turkish government, which is responsible for most of the terrorism in this world including boko haram, accoridng to wiretapped calls (i am referring to TRT world) you can't have your cake and eat it too. either join britain and be a patriotic, contributing citizen, or go home. quit being an immigration leech. and besides, do you even have a job? all i ever see is you posting on here, just like me, who also doesn't have a job, and hardly any classes. i suspect you are a troll and i know what sector of society you work for but i can't name it cause ill get my butt in trouble.
    Brainwashed liberal detected.

    Turkey funding Boko Haram? Taliban raping girls. Boy you western muslims are even more brainwashed and deluded then the Russians.

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    Maduro is one of the last anti-Imperialists. I am with him too against this classic American coup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Maduro is one of the last anti-Imperialists. I am with him too against this classic American coup.
    what is more important? being against imperialists or being treated fairly vs being treated like dirt and having your rights and honor violated? have you no dignity?

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    Turkey, Russia, China are with Maduro. Maduro is going nowhere, Insha'Allah.

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    Brainwashed liberal detected.

    Turkey funding Boko Haram? Taliban raping girls. Boy you western muslims are even more brainwashed and deluded then the Russians.
    wife beating taleban supporter detected. you supporting murdering children and marrying off little girls to old fighters and using child soldiers and selling opium to fighters. yes, turkey did fund boko haram, their intelligence officers were wiretapped, and what about all those arms shipments going from turkey to nigeria?

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    It is amazing how could these Chavezists and Maduro screw up Venezuela so much, sitting on so huge oil reserves and still failing so terribly, leading to that country to such an economic misery. So it is all on them. Regarding the regime change, i'm more or less indifferent to it, as i understand the Venezuelan society itself is extremely polarized, so i can't make justice in that from this distance if this self proclaimed "new persident" Guaido has more popular support or not.

    But its world political implications are interesting, how the international actors are split around the issue.
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    Other viewpoints.









    It is amazing how could these Chavezists and Maduro screw up Venezuela so much, sitting on so huge oil reserves and still failing so terribly, leading to that country to such an economic misery. So it is all on them. Regarding the regime change, i'm more or less indifferent to it, as i understand the Venezuelan society itself is extremely polarized, so i can't make justice in that from this distance if this self proclaimed "new persident" Guaido has more popular support or not.
    Yes a lot of their problems are self inflicted having said that I dont think Guiado can be trusted. Seems hes like another 'Blair' 'Macron' clone. A globalist shill.

    Hard choices all around
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    The next neocon target

    It's an interesting confession of neocon weakness in the aftermath of the Syrian debacle that they are presently targeting Venezuela instead of another Middle Eastern state. But, as the Saker points out, Russia is not in a position to help defend the Venezuelans as they defended the Syrians from imperial aggression:

    I am getting a lot of emails suggesting that Russia might do in Venezuela what she did in Syria. Let me immediately tell you that this is not going to happen. Yes, there are a lot of Russians in Venezuela, but the “Russians are not coming”.

    For one thing, I will never cease to repeat that the Russian intervention in Syria was a very small one, and that even if this small force proved formidable, it was really acting primarily as a force multiplier for the Iranians, Hezbollah and the Syrian

    government forces. And yet, even the deployment of this very small force necessitated a huge logistics effort from Russia whose military (being a purely defensive one) is simply not structured for long-distance power projection. Syria is about

    1000km from Russia. Venezuela is about 10 times (!) further. Yes, I know,a few Tu-160 visited the country twice now and there are Russian advisors in the country and the Venezuelans have a few pretty good Russian weapons systems. But here,

    again, this is a game of numbers. Limited numbers of Russian-made combat aircraft (fixed and rotary wing), air defense missiles or even large numbers of advanced MANPADs or assault rifles won’t do the trick against a determined US-Colombian

    invasion. Finally, there is no Venezuelan equivalent to Iran or Hezbollah (an outside ally and friend) which would be capable and willing to deploy real combat forces for actual, sustained combat against the invader.
    I can't help but suspect that Trump has something up his sleeve here. Is he throwing the neocons into a tar baby, perhaps? Is there anyone, anywhere, who is buying the inept imperial rhetoric about the democratic legitimacy of an unelected foreign puppet?

    And it is bizarre that the USA is posturing as if it is going to fix a third-world failed state when it is rapidly transforming into one itself. Apparently the plan is for a second New American Century, albeit in South America now that the Middle East plan has failed.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/02/t...on-target.html


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    The Trump administration is openly engaging in a blatant effort to overthrow the government of Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. It’s a campaign aimed at regime change, and it’s being publicly promoted as an opportunity to steal Venezuelan oil for the benefit of U.S. corporations. They’re not even pretending.

    But this is not some insane Twitter thought spewed by Trump after guzzling down gallons of Fox and Friends. It’s open imperialism, and it’s not just being embraced by powerful Republicans, but Democrats as well. This push for regime change in Venezuela did not appear in a vacuum. The CIA has been plotting with so-called rebels in Venezuela from the early days of the Trump administration.

    As Donald Trump has cozied up to strongmen and dictators across the world — from Vladimir Putin to Mohammed bin Salman, Rodrigo Duterte, Kim Jong-un, el-Sisi of Egypt — it seems that he’s found one so-called strongman that he can’t tolerate. And that leader happens to have the largest reserves of oil of any country in the world.




    A sensible approach.

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    Bolton already spilled the beans in an interview that the Venezuela coup is for oil.

    Venezuela is not Muslim. But I stand with anyone that is against the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Is there anyone, anywhere, who is buying the inept imperial rhetoric about the democratic legitimacy of an unelected foreign puppet?
    Never underestimate human stupidity. With the decline of religion and the rise of a secular education system designed to make people stupid, the American people have been transformed into evil morons. Do not blame America's government because they truly represent the depraved American people. Blame the loss of religion for the never-ending crimes against humanity committed by America.

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    More comment and analysis.

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    Venezuela latest news. More information on the coup in Venezuela from human intel sources as well as from a few books and globalist publications.



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    Hmmmmm good analysis of why this crises is kicking off.

    Why the US is interested in Venezuala

    The Saker interviews Michael Hudson to learn why the USA is suddenly so interested in Venezuela, of all places:

    The Saker: Could you outline the various reforms and changes introduced by Hugo Chavez? What did he do right, and what did he do wrong?


    Michael Hudson:
    Chavez sought to restore a mixed economy to Venezuela, using its government revenue – mainly from oil, of course – to develop infrastructure and domestic spending on health care, education, employment to raise living standards and productivity for his electoral constituency.

    What he was unable to do was to clean up the embezzlement and built-in rake-off of income from the oil sector. And he was unable to stem the capital flight of the oligarchy, taking its wealth and moving it abroad – while running away themselves.

    This was not “wrong”. It merely takes a long time to change an economy’s disruption – while the U.S. is using sanctions and “dirty tricks” to stop that process.

    The Saker:
    What are, in your opinion, the causes of the current economic crisis in Venezuela – is it primarily due to mistakes by Chavez and Maduro or is the main cause US sabotage, subversion and sanctions?

    Michael Hudson:
    There is no way that Chavez and Maduro could have pursued a pro-Venezuelan policy aimed at achieving economic independence without inciting fury, subversion and sanctions from the United States. American foreign policy remains as focused on oil as it was when it invaded Iraq under Dick Cheney’s regime. U.S. policy is to treat Venezuela as an extension of the U.S. economy, running a trade surplus in oil to spend in the United States or transfer its savings to U.S. banks.

    By imposing sanctions that prevent Venezuela from gaining access to its U.S. bank deposits and the assets of its state-owned Citco, the United States is making it impossible for Venezuela to pay its foreign debt. This is forcing it into default, which U.S. diplomats hope to use as an excuse to foreclose on Venezuela’s oil resources and seize its foreign assets much as Paul Singer hedge fund sought to do with Argentina’s foreign assets.

    Just as U.S. policy under Kissinger was to make Chile’s “economy scream,” so the U.S. is following the same path against Venezuela. It is using that country as a “demonstration effect” to warn other countries not to act in their self-interest in any way that prevents their economic surplus from being siphoned off by U.S. investors.

    The Saker:
    What in your opinion should Maduro do next (assuming he stays in power and the USA does not overthrow him) to rescue the Venezuelan economy?

    Michael Hudson
    : I cannot think of anything that President Maduro can do that he is not doing. At best, he can seek foreign support – and demonstrate to the world the need for an alternative international financial and economic system.

    He already has begun to do this by trying to withdraw Venezuela’s gold from the Bank of England and Federal Reserve. This is turning into “asymmetrical warfare,” threatening to de-sanctify the dollar standard in international finance. The refusal of England and the United States to grant an elected government control of its foreign assets demonstrates to the entire world that U.S. diplomats and courts alone can and will control foreign countries as an extension of U.S. nationalism.

    The price of the U.S. economic attack on Venezuela is thus to fracture the global monetary system. Maduro’s defensive move is showing other countries the need to protect themselves from becoming “another Venezuela” by finding a new safe haven and paying agent for their gold, foreign exchange reserves and foreign debt financing, away from the dollar, sterling and euro areas.

    The only way that Maduro can fight successfully is on the institutional level, upping the ante to move “outside the box.” His plan – and of course it is a longer-term plan – is to help catalyze a new international economic order independent of the U.S. dollar standard. It will work in the short run only if the United States believes that it can emerge from this fight as an honest financial broker, honest banking system and supporter of democratically elected regimes. The Trump administration is destroying illusion more thoroughly than any anti-imperialist critic or economic rival could do!
    In short, Venezuela is another crisis point for US financial imperialism. The inability of Venezuela to take possession of its own gold in London is yet another indication that the neo-liberal world order is increasingly unstable. It's not about the oil, it's about the debt.

    It certainly doesn't help that US officials are doing incredibly stupid things, like the Secretary of State calling Juan Guaido "duly-elected" when the man has never even run for President of Venezuela! The two candidates who lost the 2018 election to Nicolás Maduro were Henri Falcón and Javier Bertucci, while Henrique Capriles was the losing candidate in the 2013 election that was also won by Maduro.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/02/w...venezuala.html
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    I can only speak from personal experience about the Venezuelans I have met who live in South Carolina, USA. I have met dozens of them, and I can speak Spanish, so I have gotten to talk to them about the situation in Venezuela.

    Most of them are here on work visas, but they are essentially refugees. They say that Venezuela is now essentially a lawless country. Maduro has taking the oil wealth and distributed it to high-ranking military staff in order to keep them loyal. Water literally costs more than oil.

    I met one man with a law degree who could not earn enough in Caracas to feed his family. He now works 12-hour shifts 6 days a week doing hard physical labor so that he can make enough money to get his family out.

    There was a demonstration in downtown Greenville, South Carolina this past weekend organized by local Venezuelans. They all want Maduro out, a transitional government put in place, and fair elections to install new leadership.

    Again, I can only speak from personal experience, but I have met dozens of Venezuelans in South Carolina, and every single one of them hates Maduro and wants him out of office. Every single one of them supports Guaidó.

    I hope that the United States does not get involved, but we have a large contingent of troops in Colombia, and we could defeat the loyalist forces in Venezuela in less than a week. Nobody wants this, though. The Venezuelans were one of our top allies in WW2. our military leaders you know this, and nobody wants to go in there and kill them.

    What they hope will happen instead is that international pressure will mount enough that the Venezuelan military will depose Maduro and install Guaidó as transitional president.

    I am no fan of Trump, but his backing of Guaidó may well be the tipping point that helps get the tyrant Maduro out of power.

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    Always nice to see western "Holier than thou" mentality. lol. Maduro is going nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    I can only speak from personal experience about the Venezuelans I have met who live in South Carolina, USA. I have met dozens of them, and I can speak Spanish, so I have gotten to talk to them about the situation in Venezuela.

    Most of them are here on work visas, but they are essentially refugees. They say that Venezuela is now essentially a lawless country. Maduro has taking the oil wealth and distributed it to high-ranking military staff in order to keep them loyal. Water literally costs more than oil.

    I met one man with a law degree who could not earn enough in Caracas to feed his family. He now works 12-hour shifts 6 days a week doing hard physical labor so that he can make enough money to get his family out.

    There was a demonstration in downtown Greenville, South Carolina this past weekend organized by local Venezuelans. They all want Maduro out, a transitional government put in place, and fair elections to install new leadership.

    Again, I can only speak from personal experience, but I have met dozens of Venezuelans in South Carolina, and every single one of them hates Maduro and wants him out of office. Every single one of them supports Guaidó.

    I hope that the United States does not get involved, but we have a large contingent of troops in Colombia, and we could defeat the loyalist forces in Venezuela in less than a week. Nobody wants this, though. The Venezuelans were one of our top allies in WW2. our military leaders you know this, and nobody wants to go in there and kill them.

    What they hope will happen instead is that international pressure will mount enough that the Venezuelan military will depose Maduro and install Guaidó as transitional president.

    I am no fan of Trump, but his backing of Guaidó may well be the tipping point that helps get the tyrant Maduro out of power.

    Dan Edge
    I agree its not black and white, he has governed poorly, but outside interference hasnt helped matters (American economic warfare etc). In the end its best to leave it to the people of Venezuela to solve their own problems. Judging by USAs past record in South America (in fact much of the world) I think they should mind their own business (fat chance, I know, I know).

    Hah!



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    Why Israel wants to see Maduro overthrown in Venezuela

    US-Israeli support for overthrowing Maduro is part of a broader regional agenda targeting Palestinian solidarity

    While various important factors and elements have fuelled the dire situation in Venezuela today, Israeli meddling in Latin American affairs is one that is rarely mentioned.

    After the death of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, his successor, Nicolas Maduro, soon faced the challenges of a capsizing economy, hyperinflation, and shortages of medicine and food fuelled by low oil prices, despite the country’s massive reserves.

    Protests against the worsening socioeconomic situation have led to polarisation and a political stalemate. There are pro- and anti-government camps, with no alternative third option or any hopes for an internal reconciliation.

    The emergence of self-declared interim President Juan Guaido, backed by countries including the US, Canada, Australia and Israel - even as the United Nations and Venezuela’s top court and military reject his leadership, while Maduro has called for early elections - begs the question: whose interests is he representing?

    Struggle for self-determination

    Venezuela’s political chaos has resulted from a combination of the country’s extreme vulnerability as a petro state and the consequences of imperialist policies and endeavours that fuel internal corruption. But the US-Israeli support for overthrowing Maduro is part of a larger agenda to cement an anti-Palestinian campaign in Latin America at the expense of the Venezuelan people.

    Although most Latin American countries supported the UN Partition Plan of 1947, which officially established the state of Israel and led to the Nakba, the region has been broadly friendly to Palestinians, hosting the largest Palestinian presence outside of the Arab world.

    Solidarity with the Palestinian struggle for self-determination was at its height during the Chavez years up until today, with the leadership making outspoken criticism of Israel’s flagrant violations of international law. Venezuela severed diplomatic ties with Israel in 2009 over its military campaign in Gaza.

    The Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA) was founded by Venezuela and Cuba during the Chavez era. The US and Israel remain the only countries to vote against the annual UN resolution to end the more than half-century blockade against Cuba. Furthermore, the recent UN vote in favour of Palestinian statehood, along with Palestine’s broader bid for international recognition, has strong support in Latin America, including in Venezuela.

    Under the Trump administration, there has been a slow and steady shift to impose anti-Palestinian policies, such as cutting US aid to the UNRWA refugee agency and to the Palestinian Authority, along with introducing the “deal of the century”, which eviscerates any hopes for Palestinian national aspirations.

    Neo-conservative ideology

    The Trump administration has empowered the extreme political right, spreading the neo-conservative ideology of Christian Zionism throughout Latin America. The UN vote to condemn the US embassy relocation to Jerusalem was rejected by Guatemala, Honduras and Brazil, amid regional moves to strengthen “security” ties with Israel. Countries including Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Colombia, Peru, Paraguay and Ecuador have all recognised Guaido.

    It is extremely telling that the Trump administration selected Elliott Abrams as the new US envoy to Venezuela, reinforcing the notion that the US and Israel see this situation as a perfect opportunity to overthrow Maduro and install a pro-Israel regime in the country.

    Abrams was convicted for his role in the Iran-Contra scandal, which involved a US-Israeli plan to secretly supply Iran with weapons amid an arms embargo, in the name of freeing hostages. The ultimate purpose was to fund US-backed counterinsurgents and guerrillas fighting socialism or communism.

    Abrams was also implicated in massive human rights abuses perpetrated by pro-US regimes in El Salvador and Guatemala, and the Nicaraguan Contra rebels in the 1980s, which led to tens of thousands of deaths.

    Abrams was later pardoned by the Bush administration and named deputy national security adviser to promote former President George HW Bush’s strategy of “adopting democracy abroad”, which included his role in a failed coup attempt against Chavez.

    Abrams is also fiercely pro-Israel and was critical of the Obama administration for deeming settlement expansion in the Palestinian territories to be illegal, making him well-suited for the anti-Palestinian agenda in Latin America.

    Looking ahead

    The direction in which Venezuela is heading does not look promising for the region, especially in relation to Palestinian solidarity, given the Zionist-related meddling, both historical and contemporary.

    The successful takeover of Venezuela by pro-US forces will mean the cementing of anti-Palestinian politics through an interventionist policy that erases and “cleanses” Palestine from the region.

    The hope lies with the people of Venezuela, civil society and grassroots movements in Latin America. Only time will tell whether they can halt this Israeli-backed project to end Palestinian solidarity on the continent.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinio...rown-venezuela
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsxmod0TSAo

    Remembering Hugo Chavez's speech against USA.

    People say religious muslims can't respect non-muslims. But I have mad respect and admiration for Hugo Chavez, a true champion of his people, truth and resistance against the West.

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    The Evil Western Cabal did not cause hyperinflation in Venezuela. Maduro's own economic policies did that. Venezuelan currency is worth less than toilet paper, literally. And it grows worse every day.

    The US recently sent food and medical supplies to Venezuela, but Maduro ordered that it all be stored in a warehouse near the border, saying that the US is trying to "shame" Venezuelans. Meanwhile, the average Venezuelan weighs 15 lbs less than they did 15 years ago. Why you think that is?

    The West is not taking food away from Venezuela. They are not taking water away. They are not in control of Venezuela's economic policies. Yet Venezuelan citizens are fleeing the country by the thousands every week. They are seeking asylum in other South American countries, the US, Mexico, and Canada.

    It is these refugees who paint the clearest picture of what is actually going on in Venezuela. They blame Maduro and want him out. Turkey can say whatever it wants, but I don't see them offering any humanitarian aid, or offering asylum to the refugees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    The Evil Western Cabal did not cause hyperinflation in Venezuela. Maduro's own economic policies did that. Venezuelan currency is worth less than toilet paper, literally. And it grows worse every day.

    The US recently sent food and medical supplies to Venezuela, but Maduro ordered that it all be stored in a warehouse near the border, saying that the US is trying to "shame" Venezuelans. Meanwhile, the average Venezuelan weighs 15 lbs less than they did 15 years ago. Why you think that is?

    The West is not taking food away from Venezuela. They are not taking water away. They are not in control of Venezuela's economic policies. Yet Venezuelan citizens are fleeing the country by the thousands every week. They are seeking asylum in other South American countries, the US, Mexico, and Canada.

    It is these refugees who paint the clearest picture of what is actually going on in Venezuela. They blame Maduro and want him out. Turkey can say whatever it wants, but I don't see them offering any humanitarian aid, or offering asylum to the refugees.

    Dan Edge
    I am sure the West has nothing to do with Venezuela's hyper inflation. Just like the West has nothing to do with Iran's hyperinflation, or Turkey's inflation. Or Russia's 4 year long recession.

    What a coincidence that illiberal countries who oppose the West are the only ones whose economy ends up struggling. Very interesting indeed.

    I wasn't born yesterday.


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