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    Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques (OP)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eUmis7uko0

    - @eesathekiwi are you safe?

    - About 40 died

    - Perpetrator White Australian

    - Apparantly he was livestreaming the whole thing while playing "Remove Kebab" song at background

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

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    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    White nationalists are not compatible with Islam unless the Muslims make a pledge of shirk and happen to be white...Many popular white nationalists with massive followings on social media have made it clear they do not want to live in peace with Islam, but are OK with Saudis style Islam and if that's Islam then I am Jesus Christ.
    Saying white nationalists are compatible with islam is the most hilarious thing I have seen. Europe and Islamic empires have been at war for 1400 years and are still enemies. And even without the wars and deep enmity, the philosophies these two groups hold, the approach to life are completely opposite of each other (individualism-european philosophy vs Collectivism- Islamic Philosophy). So at a cultural and social level, they are against each other and insult each other's cultures and lifestyles.

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Saying white nationalists are compatible with islam is the most hilarious thing I have seen. Europe and Islamic empires have been at war for 1400 years and are still enemies. And even without the wars and deep enmity, the philosophies these two groups hold, the approach to life are completely opposite of each other (individualism-european philosophy vs Collectivism- Islamic Philosophy). So at a cultural and social level, they are against each other and insult each other's cultures and lifestyles.
    Islam does not teach collectivism or individualism, also Islamic culture actually does not exist since Islam is religion, not product of culture. What you describe as "Islam" in your post actually is "East".

    Please, differentiate between religion and culture.
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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    A culture that 100% follows sharia, is Islamic.. Just like how if an empire follows Shariah 100%, it is an Islamic Empire.

    That is not to say that Islam is a culture, it is not.

    so: culture =/= Islam.

    Please correct me if I said anything wrong
    Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Islam does not teach collectivism or individualism, also Islamic culture actually does not exist since Islam is religion, not product of culture. What you describe as "Islam" in your post actually is "East".

    Please, differentiate between religion and culture.
    You are wrong.

    Al-Nu’man ibn Bashir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.

    The fact that Islam emphasizes on the entire group as one, rather than emphasizing on the individual like Western philosophy enshrines.

    Religion heavily dictates culture just like ideology, I don't think I need to explain this further. For example Islam heavily influenced culture of both hindus and muslims of the subcontinent. Hindus adopted many conservative values (that you see still now) from Islam, before Islam, hinduism and hindu indian culture was a very liberal culture and society.
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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    I don't think the western world and Islam are "at war"

    that sounds like Wahhabist extremist nonsense. What are they teaching in the mosques these days?

    Now there are some in the western world who believe this as well, but they are wrong

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    MaashAllah I love New Zealanders! They are humble and have proper respect for all religions and cultures.

    They also never wiped out the Maori's when they invaded New Zealand unlike their counterparts in Australia and America, so that says something about the descendants of the early settlers.

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Quote Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    I don't think the western world and Islam are "at war"

    that sounds like Wahhabist extremist nonsense. What are they teaching in the mosques these days?

    Now there are some in the western world who believe this as well, but they are wrong
    You mean the multi-million dollar anti-islam industry doesn't exist? Islam is just the latest in line of many of Europe's culling chopping block, we are following the same path as Native Americans, Aboriginals.
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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai View Post
    White nationalists (the far right) are our enemies. It's us (and all other non-whites) they don't want in 'their' countries.
    So what? What is wrong with some whites wanting their own countries as long as they leave other people alone? That is much less harmful than liberalism and judaism which promotes corruption and undermines good governments all over the world.

    Yes, uptil before this attack, their attacks have been on government targets (except 1997 attack on Brixton blacks and a gay pub and brick lane Asians), however it was only a matter of time before we were targeted as in their view, it achieves one of their goals in making us want to leave these countries and not want to come here.
    Here you are equating white terrorists with white nationanism, which no different from equating Muslim terrorists with Islam.

    Far right groups like BNP, Britain first and edl have all marched against Muslims and are constantly hstemongering/inciting violence against us, so it beats me how someone can be so deluded to say that we are not their enemy.

    In the grand scheme of things, the jews are their main enemy and we are the pawns, but enemies too nonetheless!

    Who would you say are the most moderate white nationalists?, UKIP?, Well they've just recruited the vicious racist yob tommy robinson as their political advisor!
    "Moderate" is the wrong word. In an insane world, anyone who is sane will be considered an extremist. That applies equally to Islam and to white nationalism. Here are 2 sane white nationalists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ozrpk_eyw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SHYAOD78kw

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    Re: Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Anyone who supports genocide and mass murder of muslims in anyway don't have any right to free speech. More like abuse of speech.

    It is simple, those kind of attacks need action against by execution of those who do it, and those who celebrae/encourage it.

    White nationalists are racists, that is what they are.

    I dont care if europe is overrun by arabs or africans, colour doesn't matter.

    Only a man depraved of any humanity would kill ppl while defenceless and innocent
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    Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.


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