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    Laugh In The Face Of Hate

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    what does it mean?

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by aqib012 View Post
    what does it mean?
    It means, return good for evil; if they hatefully scorn at us, we smile at them, if they massacre us, we extend them good will with a hearty laugh!

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    What a ridiculous philosophy.

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    What a ridiculous philosophy.
    it's a lofty Islamic principle, calling this ridiculous could be highly detrimental to iman!:

    . “Repel evil with that which is best. We know best what they describe.” (Surah al-Mu’minun - Verses 96)


    Obviously on battle field we fight back but in these 'neo Nazi' attack circumstances we return good

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai View Post
    it's a lofty Islamic principle, calling this ridiculous could be highly detrimental to iman!:

    . “Repel evil with that which is best. We know best what they describe.” (Surah al-Mu’minun - Verses 96)


    Obviously on battle field we fight back but in these 'neo Nazi' attack circumstances we return good

    Case in point..

    https://www.islamicboard.com/world-a...ml#post3011502

    This is not what Islam represents and so we have to dispel the false representation.

    People on both sides would like nothing better than to cause trouble and accelerate the destruction of society, promote discord. Between people who are just going about their lives..

    But they are a minority, if we were to choose it would be easy to push one another of the fence..

    So we should rather live to invite.

    Not exactly laugh in the face of hate, but it takes all sorts of people to make the world turn.
    Last edited by M.I.A.; 1 Week Ago at 02:37 PM.

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    Yeah regarding that too brah, let's give them some love in return . InshAllah we'll win over their hearts with our lurrve!

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai View Post
    it's a lofty Islamic principle, calling this ridiculous could be highly detrimental to iman!:

    . “Repel evil with that which is best. We know best what they describe.” (Surah al-Mu’minun - Verses 96)


    Obviously on battle field we fight back but in these 'neo Nazi' attack circumstances we return good
    Anyone who knows Islam and Islamic history, knows our policy should eye for an eye. Nothing else.

    And I was responding to the statement, " if they massacre us, we extend our good will...." What is this? Kindergarten?

    There can be only one response to aggression and that is counter aggression. Nothing else

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Anyone who knows Islam and Islamic history, knows our policy should eye for an eye. Nothing else.

    And I was responding to the statement, " if they massacre us, we extend our good will...." What is this? Kindergarten?

    There can be only one response to aggression and that is counter aggression. Nothing else
    You can't have eye for eye in western countries, not even in Muslim countries as vigilantism is unIslamic. Eye for eye in the West will get you locked up as a terrorist.

    In regards to abuse, then eye for eye is an option, however it's BETTER to return good for it

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Anyone who knows Islam and Islamic history, knows our policy should eye for an eye. Nothing else.

    And I was responding to the statement, " if they massacre us, we extend our good will...." What is this? Kindergarten?

    There can be only one response to aggression and that is counter aggression. Nothing else

    Nothing you think about is new.

    Every example you present has been seen before by the people you claim to represent and those people that oppose you.

    So just find an example of what you agree with in the people you don't agree with..

    And then you wont agree with yourself "/


    See my amazing logic!!

    ...also most of us would just get beat up in an eye for an eye land..

    And probably not because you cant fight.


    Fear God, not mankind.

    Jacob.jpg



    ...I dont think anybody is really a pacifist.. but it's a learning experience.

    Those) who have been driven out of their homes untruthfully (i.e., without right) except that they say, "Our Lord is Allah." And had it not been the repelling by Allah of mankind, some by the means of others, (Literally: some by means of some others) indeed there would have been completely demolished hermitages, and churches, and oratories, and mosques, wherein The Name of Allah is much mentioned. And indeed Allah will definitely give victory to whomever vindicates Him. Surely Allah is indeed Ever-Powerful, Ever-Mighty.
    Last edited by M.I.A.; 1 Week Ago at 03:21 PM.

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai View Post
    You can't have eye for eye in western countries, not even in Muslim countries as vigilantism is unIslamic. Eye for eye in the West will get you locked up as a terrorist.

    In regards to abuse, then eye for eye is an option, however it's BETTER to return good for it
    I'm not talking application, i am talking about principle. And obviously the last people to look for any kind of vengeance are western Muslims.

    Anyhow I believe in the future a full-scale war between Europe and Islam is inevitable. It will happen, only question is if Muslim countries will be prepared for it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    Nothing you think about is new.

    Every example you present has been seen before by the people you claim to represent and those people that oppose you.

    So just find an example of what you agree with in the people you don't agree with..

    And then you wont agree with yourself "/


    See my amazing logic!!

    ...also most of us would just get beat up in an eye for an eye land..

    And probably not because you cant fight.


    Fear God, not mankind.

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    ...I dont think anybody is really a pacifist.. but it's a learning experience.
    I don't understand your point.

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    Re: Laugh In The Face Of Hate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai View Post
    it's a lofty Islamic principle, calling this ridiculous could be highly detrimental to iman!:

    . “Repel evil with that which is best. We know best what they describe.” (Surah al-Mu’minun - Verses 96)


    Obviously on battle field we fight back but in these 'neo Nazi' attack circumstances we return good
    al-Qurtubi says regarding the Verse (paraphrase):


    ادفع بالتي هي أحسن السيئة أمر بالصفح ومكارم الأخلاق ؛ فما كان منها لهذه الأمة فيما بينهم فهو محكم باق في الأمة أبدا . وما كان فيها من موادعة الكفار وترك التعرض لهم والصفح عن أمورهم فمنسوخ بالقتال

    As regards to the ruling of this Verse for what occurs between the members of the Muslim Ummah, then it will remain applicable forever.

    As for that which was in it for acting nicely to the disbelievers and giving up resistance to them, then that has been abrogated by al-qitaal.


    And al-Tabari writes

    وذلك أمره إياه قبل أمره بحربهم


    And that was His command to him (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) prior to His command to go to war with them.


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