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    AKP lost İstanbul and Ankara (OP)


    Erdoğan’s AKP lost the grand municipalities of İstanbul and Ankara yesterday to the Kemalist CHP which also had the support of nationalist İYİ Party as per the mathematical results of the local elections after 16 years of continous governance. These two cities were governed by Islamist mayors and parties since 1994. This is a complete failure for Erdoğan and AKP in Turkey and gives some hints for the next general elections. People gave a lesson to him and the party after long years of corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    And that praise didn't go too well with his own voter base. Most AKP pages I follow criticized Erdogan for involving Ataturk in Manzikert event. Even in his page many people were asking, "What is the relevance of Ataturk with Manzikert?"

    For sure Kemal is nearly a demigod in the Aegean provinces and Thracian provinces. But there are still a significant number of Turks, usually from Central Anatolia who don't seem to like Kemal as much.

    As one Turk from konya I spoke to put it so well, "Izmir and Konya are like two different countries".

    This is just the municipality election. Dear God in no other country anyone gives a damn about municipal election as much as people seem to do with Turkey.

    Symbolized the fall is a very dramatic statement. They even won most of the votes in the actual election last year.

    If we have to go into details, 24 out of 39 districts in Istanbul will be governed by AKP. They actually won most of the districts in Istanbul and Ankara, although lost overall.
    Manzikert started Turkey and Atatürk restarted it. There is such a connection. Also the date the 26 August is of both the manzikert in 1071 and the great assault of the Turkish salvation war in 1922.

    Islamism’s first political victory in Turkey was Erdoğan’s election as the mayor of İstanbul and Melih Gökçek of Ankara in 1994. This evantualy gave birth to AKP. This is why its much more important to Erdoğan
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    Re: AKP lost İstanbul and Ankara

    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Manzikert started Turkey and Atatürk restarted it. There is such a connection. Also the date the 26 August is of both the manzikert in 1071 and the great assault of the Turkish salvation war in 1922.

    Islamism’s first political victory in Turkey was Erdoğan’s election as the mayor of İstanbul and Melih Gökçek of Ankara in 1994. This evantualy gave birth to AKP. This is why its much more important to Erdoğan
    Sorry to be rude but that is nonsense. The whole point of Kemal was to sever Turkey's ties with Islam. To that end he promoted pre-Islamic Turkish history like the Scythians.

    The Seljuk Sultanate of Rum has zero connection Ideologically, culturally and with the people of the Turkish republic.

    The Turkish republic was founded with motivations, ideology that is complete opposite of the Seljuks.

    Either way going back to the original point, Erdogan's supporters were not entertained when he mentioned Ataturk in the Manzikert event.

    Everybody knows Erdogan's ideology by now, it's naive to think just mentioning Kemal here and there will suddenly cause the secularists to like him.

    He should cater to his own support base.

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    Re: AKP lost İstanbul and Ankara

    Salaam

    Another update, this isn't good news, if they won the election fair and square they should respect the result.

    Turkey Pays the Price for Erdogan’s Istanbul Election Do-Over

    Its currency hit a seven-month low after the election board invalidated the opposition CHP party’s victory.


    Late on May 6, Turkey’s election board invalidated the results of a March mayoral election that cost President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s AK Party control of Istanbul. The decision sent stocks tumbling, and the opposition party called the move a coup.

    What’s the back story?

    Erdogan has been consolidating power for the better part of the past decade. In 2017 a constitutional referendum granted him authority to appoint ministers and judges and put much of the country’s economic policy at his discretion. Last year, the day after he was sworn in to a second term, he named his son-in-law finance minister.

    Why is Istanbul so important?


    The city is the country’s largest metropolis and its commercial center—more important, it’s where Erdogan got his political start. AKP has built an important patronage network there, doling out contracts for infrastructure projects to Erdogan supporters. The president told lawmakers in 2016: “If we lose Istanbul, we lose Turkey.”

    What happens next?

    New elections have been scheduled for June 23. Some in the main opposition party, CHP, which won narrowly in the original vote, called for a boycott, saying Erdogan’s party can’t be trusted to run a free and fair ballot. But CHP’s leadership says it will campaign again for the post, and smaller parties are aligning with them.

    Six weeks of political chaos present a major threat to Turkey’s economy, which slipped into its first recession in a decade just before the March vote. The lira hit a seven-month low after the election board announced its decision, while Turkish stocks erased their 2019 gains at the next morning’s market open. The central bank is likely to face pressure to stabilize the currency by raising interest rates—a move sure to anger Erdogan, who’s consistently called for keeping borrowing costs low.

    How bad could things get?

    Pretty bad. The lira has experienced a series of shocks in the past year and may face more if Turkey accepts a $2 billion delivery of Russian missiles. That could provoke U.S. sanctions, on top of steel tariffs put in place last year.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/businessweek


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