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    Angry Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

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    im so shocked.

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    On the night of March 16, 1993 in Baladwayne, Somalia, sixteen year old Shidane Arone sneaks into the Canadian Airborne Regiments quarters where he was tortured and beaten to death in the hands of racist Canadian soldiers. This remorseless act scarred the reputation of the Canadian military in the eyes of Canadians, as well as the international community. Watch this interesting clip covered by Point of View.

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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Subhanallah i cant beleive ppl would do this
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Racists suck harder than a Dyson. I hope the soldiers involved in the incident rot.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    ameen i hope dey do, cos i dnt get d point of doin dis 2 sum1!!!
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Appalling racism.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    There was such a public outcry in Canada when this went public that the canadians disbanded the Airborne Regiment. They still have an airforce, but this regiment that was considered "elite", exists no more.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    wow astigfirullah...these guys must be proud of themselves...i kinda feel ashamed being a Canadian....never thought Canadians would do something.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by shariq_0189 View Post
    wow astigfirullah...these guys must be proud of themselves...i kinda feel ashamed being a Canadian....never thought Canadians would do something.
    No need for you to feel ashamed shariq, canadians spoke up, got angry, and let the canadian govt. know what they thought. The canadian government listened to it's people (unbelievable) and the airborne regiment was disbanded. The only guys that should feel shame are the ones that did this crime and those that allowed it to happen. I applaud canadians for caring enough to speak up when they are unhappy with the way they are being represented.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Great job done by the government to punish those who where guilty.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

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    Sonz,
    Why do you think that Shidane Arone was a muslim? I know that Somalia has a large muslim population, so there is a good chance that he was a muslim. But we should be sure of things before stating them. Could you provide the source you have that states he was muslim please? I have read much on the somali incident in the past and have never read that Shidane Arone was a muslim, this would be new information for me.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by Panatella View Post
    Sonz,
    Why do you think that Shidane Arone was a muslim? I know that Somalia has a large muslim population, so there is a good chance that he was a muslim. But we should be sure of things before stating them. Could you provide the source you have that states he was muslim please? I have read much on the somali incident in the past and have never read that Shidane Arone was a muslim, this would be new information for me.
    Considering the demographics of Somalia it would seem very likely he was a muslim, although as you say that certainly seems to be just an assumption.

    Actually, I think the fact that is unstated is probably to the credit of the press reporting the story; it is clearly not relevant. The video makes clear it was a purely racist attack and his religion, if any, was not significant.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    im so shocked.
    Really? Thirteen years after the event you're still shocked? May I ask why it has taken you such a long time to get around to being shocked about this? And why you did not mention (a) that many of the soldiers who did this were First Nations and (b) the Canadian public and government came down on them like a ton of bricks disbanding the regiment?

    What is the relevance of this footage to this site? Do you think that people need to be reminded of decades old crimes? If so, why?
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Salam
    Seeing such events just hurt so much. If only muslims were united against such people then we wouldn't have idiots like those who dare to go around doing such things.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by mizan_aliashraf View Post
    Seeing such events just hurt so much. If only muslims were united against such people then we wouldn't have idiots like those who dare to go around doing such things.
    Really? If Canadians are doing this what do you think the Egyptian Army is doing? The difference here is that Canada is an open and free society where such things are not declared state secrets.
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    whta about guantanamo bay?
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    Really? If Canadians are doing this what do you think the Egyptian Army is doing? The difference here is that Canada is an open and free society where such things are not declared state secrets.

    What is the Egyptian Army doing?
    Just wondering.
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by Duhaa View Post
    What is the Egyptian Army doing?
    Just wondering.
    I have no idea. But there are rumors about what they have been doing. Why is it, you think, that the Canadians are so open about what their soldiers have been doing and the Egyptians are not? Why do some stories of human rights abuses make it to international prominence and others do not? Pakistan, for instance, has had to admit that their soldiers raped a doctor in Baluchistan. How many other rapes do you think go unreported?
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    I have no idea. But there are rumors about what they have been doing. Why is it, you think, that the Canadians are so open about what their soldiers have been doing and the Egyptians are not? Why do some stories of human rights abuses make it to international prominence and others do not? Pakistan, for instance, has had to admit that their soldiers raped a doctor in Baluchistan. How many other rapes do you think go unreported?
    HeiGou... if what Egypt does is worse (and i'm sure it is), that doesn't justify it.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by ~Mu'MiNaH~ View Post
    HeiGou... if what Egypt does is worse (and i'm sure it is), that doesn't justify it.
    I am with you on that. But I am interested in why this was posted here and now. It was 13 years ago. No one is posting on the Pakistani Army's raping of Pakistani doctors. And we all know the Pakistani government has few friends here. So this is somehow special. And notice how little context is provided. No mention of the origins of the soldiers - making it look more racist than it was in all probability. No mention of the punishments handed out to the soldiers. So what is the purpose and reason for the posting?

    The Somalia Affair was a Canadian military scandal in the mid 1990s. It began with the brutal 1993 beating death of a Somali teenager, Shidane Arone, at the hands of two Canadian soldiers participating in the United Nations humanitarian efforts in Somalia. The crime, and especially the grisly trophy photos taken of it, shocked the Canadian public and was a blow to the reputation of the Canadian Forces.

    It also quickly became apparent that there were problems in the unit that went beyond the two soldiers directly involved. Questions were asked about why the unit was chosen for that mission despite clear warning signs. Perhaps most damaging to the leadership of the Canadian military was how it reacted after the events became public. They were accused of trying to cover-up the event by misleading journalists and the public.

    Eventually a public inquiry was called. Despite being controversially cut short by the government, the Somalia Inquiry found deep problems in the leadership of the Canadian Forces. The affair led to the disbanding of Canada's elite Airborne Regiment, greatly damaged the morale of the Canadian Forces, and damaged both the domestic and international reputation of Canadian soldiers.

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    The affair had a number of long lasting effects. While it is difficult to separate the effects of the affair on Canadian Forces morale from those of the concurrent defence spending cut, it did exacerbate feelings of distrust towards the media and politicians among many CF members.

    At the same time, public trust in the Canadian Forces suffered and recruitment became more difficult. Public revulsion provided support for the sharp cuts to military spending introduced by the Liberal government. Many of the report's comments, along with the sustained media criticism of the military, led to the hasty imposition of policies designed to ensure nothing similar to the Somalia Affair could happen again. It has been argued that many of these practices, such as the micro-management of training, operations and disciplinary processes from NDHQ and the resultant restrictions on commanding officers, hamper the flexibility of operational units. Since the events in Somalia, Canada has become far less ready to participate in United Nations Peacekeeping efforts. Once playing an important role in the majority of UN efforts, in subsequent years Canada has been more ready to simply provide indirect support.

    ....

    Other long term effects on the Forces included the adoption of sensitivity training, including SHARP (Sexual Harassment and Racism Prevention) training, which became mandatory for every single member of the Forces, and was accompanied by a declaration of "zero tolerance" on racism and harassment of any kind, including hazing. In the aftermath of the Somalia affair, video of brutal hazing rituals in the Airborne Regiment had been met with public outrage and disgust when they were made public.

    The idea of public outrage in most of the world to such an incident is absurd. So on what basis is Canada being judged here?
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    Re: Somali Muslim beaten and tortured to death by Canadian Soldiers

    Right, but public outrage to 3000 people in America dying, more than let's say... how many people know the history of Chechnya?
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