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    Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

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    Just a month after the Mashni family lost a son, it now must deal with a new kind of grief.

    The Tinley Park family on Thursday received an anonymous hate letter in the mail, postmarked Wednesday from the Bedford Park regional post office.

    It reads, "Muslims go home to your country. You are not welcome in our community. Is your weekends training for making bombs? How many bomb experts you have living with you? Muslims get out NOW."

    "I think it is sickening," Kamal Mashni said. "Whoever wrote it has to be from the neighborhood. I don't even know any of them (neighbors). That's the funny part."

    Mashni, his wife and their sons moved into their home in the Brementowne subdivision in mid-May, a week before the couple's 21-year-old son died from seizure complications. Since his death, the house has been filled with family and friends on weekends, Mashni said.

    Mashni speculated that a neighbor might be upset about the number of cars parked near the family's home.

    "I make sure they don't block driveways," he said.

    Tinley Park police are investigating the letter as a hate crime, which is a felony, and likely will team with postal inspectors next week, police Cmdr. Rick Bruno said.

    "This reminds us that there are still tiny minds out there, unfortunately," Bruno said.

    Mashni said he and his family did not want to make a big deal out of the letter and considered throwing it away but reconsidered.

    "If he did it today, he'll do it tomorrow," Mashni said of the author. "Hate is hate, I don't care about race or religion. Islam and Muslims are not terrorists. ... I'm an American citizen, and my kids are American citizens. I have been in this country since 1976, probably since before he (the author of the letter) was born."

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Sonz, I have noticed how many news articles you post here, and sometimes I really wonder what your motivation is for posting such articles.
    Surely incidents such as this are isolated ones! I could find you a hundred reports on neighbourly disputes and tensions ... regardless of racial and religious backgrounds.

    Do you spend all your time scouring the interent for articles which are likely to cause division and spread religious/racial hatred?
    And if so, why???
    And, is that the attitude that earns somebody a moderator staus around here??? :X

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    sick person who wrote the letter

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by Nablus View Post
    sick person who wrote the letter
    I agree. And very ignorant too.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Oh well.....Blah Blah...Just bin it. If I got something like that I wouldn't even bother to show it to my parents......

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Sonz, I have noticed how many news articles you post here, and sometimes I really wonder what your motivation is for posting such articles.
    Surely incidents such as this are isolated ones! I could find you a hundred reports on neighbourly disputes and tensions ... regardless of racial and religious backgrounds.

    Do you spend all your time scouring the interent for articles which are likely to cause division and spread religious/racial hatred?
    And if so, why???
    And, is that the attitude that earns somebody a moderator staus around here??? :X

    Peace.
    Hi sonz,
    I have noticed the same thing, and have asked myself the same questions of your motives. Forgive me if I am wrong, but it does seem as if you are attempting to cause division. Are we (glo and myself) wrong?

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    division? religious hatred???

    was the one who wrote the letter a religious person??? nothing was mentioned.

    im posting here articles about things that the MAINSTREAM news wont report.

    and how is this article causing division or spreading hatred???
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post

    and how is this article causing division or spreading hatred???
    I just don't think it is representative of Muslims living in a non-Muslim society.
    By posting such articles you sway the readers' view to thinking that this is not an isolated case, but is the norm of treatment Muslims receive in a non-Muslim society.

    I am not saying you shouldn't post credible articles, I am just wondering about your motivation behind it.

    If I continually posted, say, articles which highlight isolated incidents of women suffering at the hands of their husbands, I may be seen to have an anti-men, sexist attitude.
    That doesn't mean my articles aren't true or relevant ... but it does mean that I may want to examine my own motivations behind my actions.

    I would love to hear the view of other people.
    Thanks, panatella, for your comments.
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    let us not forget that Non-Muslims too face such threats in Islamic countries.okay Muslim countries.
    my point is bad people exists in every society.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Well, obviously sonz should be commended for posting all these articles for discussion. Yet, I absolutely agree that the articles seem to almost always portray Muslims as victims and under attack by non-Muslims. They never deal with any of the problem within the Muslim world, such as the abdundance of Muslim on Muslim violence and the oppression of Muslims by other Muslims. If people were to only get there information from this site they would be seriously wrong picture of world events, which might make them overly emotional and this may eventually forment the hate between different religions and countries.

    But then again, they shouldn't get there news from just one source anyway, so I'm not sure we can blame sonz for that!

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by SirZubair View Post
    Sonz,no disrespect bro,but seriously,try posting an article once in awhile that is leaning more towards "the brighter side"..
    its not a black and white world, enuff said. and i dont see u posting anything "bright". i post anything that is discussable since this is a forum. if u dont like it, then dont post or post ur own topics. im just sick of hearing u complain that im the only one allowed to post and others not.


    I just don't think it is representative of Muslims living in a non-Muslim society.
    By posting such articles you sway the readers' view to thinking that this is not an isolated case, but is the norm of treatment Muslims receive in a non-Muslim society.

    I am not saying you shouldn't post credible articles, I am just wondering about your motivation behind it.

    If I continually posted, say, articles which highlight isolated incidents of women suffering at the hands of their husbands, I may be seen to have an anti-men, sexist attitude.
    That doesn't mean my articles aren't true or relevant ... but it does mean that I may want to examine my own motivations behind my actions.

    I would love to hear the view of other people.
    Thanks, panatella, for your comments.
    glo

    attacks of islamophobia has been ignored. ur coming across like muslims are having isolated incidents that any other non-muslim has while muslims have been discriminated since the 9/11.

    this is a muslim forum and if any muslims are discriminated i will post it. if non-muslims are discriminated i will post it as long as it generates discussion.

    people can post up their own articles and topics. its a free forum. no more offtopic posts after this pls or pm me.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    dont worry sons i dont have no authoruty on this fourm, but carry on posting what you feel is right. muslims and non-muslims alike should be made aware of hwat goes on around the world, be it on the battlefront or domestic front. be it politcial or religious. and what better plae to bring suhc topics. come on be honest out of this internet world when do ever get the occasion to discuss such topics with people from different faith and backgrounds. people who hold opposing views to people from the opposite sides of the war conflict.

    And why does it have to be sinister, like he is plotting something. If thats the case, i must be upto something sinicter seeing tham i ususally postin on the crimes of western troops in iraq. and again if its based on sinicter motives i can come up with a number of names and arctles, inclduing comments which can be seen pro-ocative and intimdating even by members in this paticular thread. so now if your going to be stern and try to put a restriction on what someone can post your might as well tell him or her to leave. Obviously wat he or she post has to be within reason of the forum rules and regulatons.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Well, this is always a problem with forums on the internet IMHO, including this one. There is usually somekind of 'collective radicalization' going on while forum members comfirm eachothers opinions and feed eachothers fears. Those that disagree usually find another forum with more like-minded people. So many diverse forums get created, each with a different worldview and each filled with like-minded people who confirm the validity of eachothers opinions.

    It's not that bad here, since there are some non-Muslims who balance it a bit. But it is nevertheless an interesting phenonemon.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    glo

    attacks of islamophobia has been ignored. ur coming across like muslims are having isolated incidents that any other non-muslim has while muslims have been discriminated since the 9/11.

    this is a muslim forum and if any muslims are discriminated i will post it. if non-muslims are discriminated i will post it as long as it generates discussion.

    people can post up their own articles and topics. its a free forum. no more offtopic posts after this pls or pm me.

    masalama
    Please see my PM, sonz.

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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    'Muslims go to your country'

    Would be interesting to see the author write that to the fully English Muslims lol
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by IsaAbdullah View Post
    'Muslims go to your country'

    Would be interesting to see the author write that to the fully English Muslims lol
    Yes.
    The answer would be 'Errrmmm ... I am in my country!'
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by KAding View Post
    Well, obviously sonz should be commended for posting all these articles for discussion. Yet, I absolutely agree that the articles seem to almost always portray Muslims as victims and under attack by non-Muslims. They never deal with any of the problem within the Muslim world, such as the abdundance of Muslim on Muslim violence and the oppression of Muslims by other Muslims.
    One of the reasons they never deal with such issues is that the rules have been changed to specifically prohibit anyone posting any articles that might make Muslims (not just Islam) look bad. It seems that articles that might make Westerners look bad are acceptable and I doubt that Sonz sees anything wrong with it.

    Fair enough. If Muslims want to set a website they can run it as they like.

    But I think that one family receiving letters from one crank is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Is there really nothing better going on in the world?
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    AsalamuAlaykum,

    LOL, that's silly, i guess i wouldn't care if i got it, and i definately wouldn't tell my family they get worried over little things, it's clear to see, it's just a prank and that they have no idea what they are talking about since they go with what the media says, Muslims are not terrorists, and yup there are Muslims born and raised in this country, hello? what's going on...

    And also don't gang up on Sonz, tut tut - One Ummah!

    It's true that some things sonz posts don't come up very often and you tend not to hear about it!,

    Anyways, Jazakhala khair for the post

    WalaykumSalaam.
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Sonz, I have noticed how many news articles you post here, and sometimes I really wonder what your motivation is for posting such articles.
    Surely incidents such as this are isolated ones! I could find you a hundred reports on neighbourly disputes and tensions ... regardless of racial and religious backgrounds.

    Do you spend all your time scouring the interent for articles which are likely to cause division and spread religious/racial hatred?
    And if so, why???
    And, is that the attitude that earns somebody a moderator staus around here??? :X

    Peace.
    I dont understand your objection to his posting interesting articles in forums glo its seems as tho you would rather ignore what is going on in the world today
    Im glad he posted it its interesting to know, its sad that these things are happening,but its benificial to know about some of these incidences from closed minded kufars may Allah the most hight guide them back to the Truth Ameen
    I dont understand how that article will cause devision and spread religious ratial hate truthfully i dont think you understand what you said either
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    Re: Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

    Perhaps this is a good time for all of us to sit back and reflect for a minute. This forum is made up of all types of people. Each person has much freedom in selecting what he/she chooses to post about, abiding by only a few sensible rules.

    What is of interest and value to one person may be trivious, usleless or even obnoxious to another. Yet, that same message may be of great value to a newcomer seeing it for the first time.

    With that said, let us all keep in mind we are all responsible for the comments we make and if we are not getting the replies we desire, we may want to re-evaluate our methods of presentation.
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