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    Victim ordered to wed rapist

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    Just wondering what my muslim friends think of this. I know many here don't read "western" news but this article was posted today and it certainly peaked my interest. From this story, it seems that the muslim world is divided. What are your thoughts?

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    Victim ordered to wed rapist
    By Shaikh Azizur Rahman
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    July 19, 2005


    BOMBAY -- Hard-line Islamic clerics in a northern Indian village have declared that a woman's 10-year-old marriage was nullified when her father-in-law raped her -- and ordered the mother of five to marry the rapist.
    The fatwa, or religious edict, was issued by Darool Uloom Deoband, South Asia's most powerful Islamic theological school known for promoting a radical brand of Islam that is said to have inspired the Taliban in Afghanistan.
    The decision has outraged both Muslim and Hindu leaders and prompted a fierce debate that has dominated the front pages of national newspapers across India.
    The fatwa ordered Imrana Ilahi, 28, to separate from her husband and treat him as her son.
    "She had a physical relationship with her father-in-law, and it nullifies her marriage," said Mohammad Masood Madani, a cleric at the theological school. He said it made no difference whether -(censored)- . The village council then decreed that Mrs. Ilahi would have to marry her father-in-law.
    Feminists and liberal Muslims reacted with fury, staging nationwide street protests.
    But Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mulayam Singh on June 29 supported the fatwa, saying: "The decision of the Muslim religious leaders in the Imrana case must have been taken after a lot of thought. ... The religious leaders are all very learned and they understand the Muslim community and its sentiments."
    The rape took place June 4 in the village of Charthawal in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, when Mrs. Ilahi's husband, Noor Ilahi, was away.
    When Mr. Ilahi, a brick kiln laborer, learned of the attack, the village court instructed him to divorce his wife.
    But Mr. Ilahi, 32, told his wife: "My father is dirty and you are clean. I still love you and I cannot desert you." Mrs. Ilahi, with her husband and five children, sneaked out of Charthawal and took shelter in Kukra, the village of her parents.
    Mrs. Ilahi received another rude shock when the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, the country's most influential Muslim umbrella organization, endorsed the punishment meted out by Darool Uloom Deoband.
    "The fact that the woman was 'used' by her husband's blood relative makes her [unclean] for her husband and there is no way she can be allowed to live with him," the law board said.

    http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050...1059-2058r.htm
    Last edited by Muhammad; 07-19-2005 at 11:29 PM.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Salaam,
    That can't be right! Could some please look into this, it seems unfair. See this link for Islamic ruling: http://www.crescentlife.com/articles...erspective.htm

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Crazy stuff, rapists are real sick people and they shouldn't be rewarded like this

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=2681
    http://www.whyislam.org/877/FAQ/q11.asp

    Many scholars apply the punishment of hirabah (armed robbery) for rape. And only the rapist is punished.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    I can't imagine murder, but when i hear of rape (which is just intolerable) i can't believe how bad murder is.
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    Many scholars apply the punishment of hirabah (armed robbery) for rape
    Well i personally think it should have the same punishment as murder

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by minaz
    Well i personally think it should have the same punishment as murder
    I kind of agree.

    Or at least a castration. That'll deter 'em.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by minaz
    I can't imagine murder, but when i hear of rape (which is just intolerable) i can't believe how bad murder is.

    Well i personally think it should have the same punishment as murder

    Do you know what the punishment for hirabah is? Depending on the severity of the situation it is either Death, Crucifixion, Hands and Feet cut off, or banishment/imprisonment. (see verse 5:33).

    So it can often result in the exact same punishment as murder. The system of Allah is indeed perfect.
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    The system indeed works, just like the u.s. constitution, however like the u.s. constitution how many times do we see repeat breeches of it?
    p.s out of interest, when was the last crucifixion in any Islamic country does anyone know?

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
    I kind of agree.

    Or at least a castration. That'll deter 'em.
    100% agreed. Filthy gits.
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by minaz
    p.s out of interest, when was the last crucifixion in any Islamic country does anyone know?
    Although Crucifixion was prescribed, Muslim scholars like Imaam Maalik said that any case where it had been actually implemented was unheard of. Evidently, it worked efficiently as a deterrent. In modern times I am not sure about crucifixion, or even if it is being implemented correctly. The only sources on this information are anti-islamic, which we cannot trust.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    crazy stuff no doubt.its NOT THE ISLAMIC LAW! SHEWAS RAPED!!isn't there a difference a between the two.Some Islamic body should do something about it.Why did the idiots reward the rapist instead of punishing him?coz they are retards!
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    well about Bangladesh I decline to comment.All I know is that there are more than 50 rapes per day across the country.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hash
    What do you expect when the government rules by other than shariah?
    Do you honestly expect me to believe that no wrong doing or criminal behavior happens in countries with governments who do rule by shariah?

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    No country has fully implemented the shariah at the moment, but crime in saudi arabia is one of the lowest in any country. Crime can never be non-existent there are black sheep in every community, but anyone who implements the full shariah not bits and pieces like saudi will see crime fall drastically.
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Khattab
    No country has fully implemented the shariah at the moment, but crime in saudi arabia is one of the lowest in any country. Crime can never be non-existent there are black sheep in every community, but anyone who implements the full shariah not bits and pieces like saudi will see crime fall drastically.
    Maybe. Maybe not. My point is that you'll never get me to buy that Shariah is the end of evil of any kind. There always has been and always will be evil. No religion or government will eradicate that. To make it sound like implementing Shariah as the cure to rid the world of all evil is inaccurate in my humble opinion.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Did you read what I just said, crime can never be fully eradicated it will always exists no matter where and what system is in place ALL evil will not go, but with the shariah implemented it is the best system to keep crime figures as low as they can possibly get.
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by YamahaR1
    Maybe. Maybe not. My point is that you'll never get me to buy that Shariah is the end of evil of any kind. There always has been and always will be evil. No religion or government will eradicate that. To make it sound like implementing Shariah as the cure to rid the world of all evil is inaccurate in my humble opinion.
    aslaam alkyum,

    ok let me ask you this. lets say there was a perfect system, faultless in any way, and then there was a system riddled with faults and 'blemishes'. would you not want to see the world under the perfect system?

    also its not t he people who make the system perfect, becaue that in itself would be a fault, rather the system is flawless regardless of the people. the khilafah system is perfect, becsue it was not designed by a human, rather it was designed and perfected by allah, "this day i have perfected your deen for you" [TMQ]. allah is perfect, therfore the system (khilafah) designed by allah is inevitably perfect, no?

    wa alkyum aslaam
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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    What do you expect when the government rules by other than shariah?
    "liberated " women don't want to wear the hijab in Bangladesh.They think its some type of oppression or seclusion.They discourage to wear it.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Khattab
    Did you read what I just said.....
    I did. Even though I quoted you, I was still addressing Hash's comments which made it seem like only bad things happen in governments that are not governed by Shariah law.

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    Re: Victim ordered to wed rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Baldy
    allah is perfect, therfore the system (khilafah) designed by allah is inevitably perfect, no?

    wa alkyum aslaam
    Yes, Allah is perfect.

    Are you telling me that khilifah (and forgive me, I am not familiar with all terms here yet) is something that was actually written by the hand of Allah himself?


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