Assalamu'aleykum,
This topic has been a long time deleyed so I think we had better get started. First a couple of questins. What do you think about the recent stories that are unfolding? How is the Media viewing all this? What do you think are the affects of this "diengagement" are to Gaza and the Palestinians? What about Israel and the settelers?
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Israel is not going to be destroyed, it won't happen in our lifetime.
Allah (swt) knows best...
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Our best chance is to make a peace which is agreeable to both sides and then begin to learn to live together.
thats true. but think about it.. even if the governments said 'we will make peace'. they've said that throughout the decades but it never works, theres always someone who wants revenge for his dead brother or even his mother who might be captured as a prisoner.
sahih bukhari: volume 4, book 53, number 391:
narrated 'abdullah bin 'amr:
the prophet (salallahu alai hi wasalam) said, "whoever killed a person having a treaty with the muslims, shall not smell the smell of paradise though its smell is perceived from a distance of forty years."
but the israelis dont have a limit either, they want revenge too. so if anyone needs to make peace it should be both sides, the muslims should because its not allowed to kill anyone from the opposition within a treaty. but what limits do the israelis have?
regarding the palestinians blowing themselves up killing innocent people - thats not allowed in islam anyway. so yeah that is wrong.. (we've discussed this topic before in another thread.)
As for Israel to be destroyed in our lifetime.. yes it is best left to Allah as He knows best..
As for peace agreement with Israel..no it wouldn't happen unless there is a justice in the agreement. Actually if you have been listening.. reading.. quite many articles produced by west boast the Israeli's supremacy over Arab/Palestine that in the end.. we will have to beg them for mercy before it is too late (ie we got destroyed).
And.. even the one sided agreement ever been inked by two parties.. it is assured that it will not stop there.. I have this feeling that they will not stop until we Muslim look to Islam as merely praying and fasting..
IMO.. Israel country should cease to exist. They are not merely preventing us from visiting Masjidul Aqsa or something like that- it is much bigger than that. It is a hard-to-swallow fact that they (Jew) is currently controlling the world and majority of them does support Zionism. Jews who oppose Zionism with the understanding of Israel shouldn't be founded without Messiah in the first place are considered as heretical in their society..
Dont take this as justifcation of hatred toward Jew.. but maybe the least we can do is to have this knowledge and with that, we can at least dont resort as a pathetic pawn in this world.
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