Rice names 'outposts of tyranny'

United my backside! How is forcing other countries to abondon their nulceur weapons a form of unity! so its ok 4 america to have wmd but no one else

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So your quite happy for N Korea to develop Nuclear Weapons, especially since they accept billions of dollars a year from the US to subsidise the countries power costs in a deal to stop them being nuclear. So, they spend the money developing nuclear weapons with the money the US give them to power the country without a nuclear meltdown. Sweet.

Yet you don't seem to care about the Russian Nuclear incident Chenoble, and the potential for other countries to suffer a nuclear incident. If N. Korea cannot even sustain feeding it's own people, how the heck do you expect N Korea to have full and adequate safety and the capital resources required to maintain them.

seems to me, you are simply talking a nuclear weapon capability.

US Bashing is all I see in this thread and spreading. I once read that those who call mostly for US Blood are often far remote from where they could be to actually try to do it.............

Peace........

Brother amirsaab, please refrain from generalizing. We do not despise USA, but we despise its policies.

As for the subject (the ability to possess nuclear weapons). From my perspective, the US Government has no moral authority. Not even the slightest bit. The military doctrine used to prevent other nations acquirin' nuclear weapons is called full spectrum dominance. The result will lead other nations not to challenge the US policies or aggressions. Furthermore, it's readily understood that the US Government always want to wage war with impunity. In the sense that they want to defeat its enemies (or potentinal enemies) with little effort, and with little fear of loss.

The real problem is that if any other nation acquired nuclear weapons to destory US cities; a instant retaliation against the attackers would be assured and it would be enormous -- disproportionate. This doesn't indicate that the US is defeated, this is a matter of a nuclear exchange war that the US would not and cannot lose.

Nevertheless, the damaging element is the US economy. The public would be amid with fear of of any other future attack against the US. This will lead to a catastrophic impact on the US economy. And this is the exact pretext used in its policies to prevent other nations from possessing nuclear weapons.

Wa'salaam

Sorry, Don't accept your nonsense. Your US bashing. And my eyes are wide open

Root

format_quote Originally Posted by root

Sorry, Don't accept your nonsense. Your US bashing. And my eyes are wide open

Root

Peace,

I find it quite evasive to brush my post aside as nonsense. Perhaps you could point the baloney mentioned

Peace

I don't care what your opinion is of the US. Mine and many like minded people like me don't want to change your opinion of the US any more than we wish to change your belief.

Stay a minority with your US bashing, I really don't want to debate your conspiracy theories. Only comment that while you believe one thing others believe another.............

Peace

format_quote Originally Posted by Hash

The fasaad jahileen americans pump Isreal with weapons and money every year which is used to slaughter thousands of palestians. This US puppet palestian leader, abbas, he will receive his punishment for his betrayal of his people and his deen. The zionist state of isreal, is a illegal state, and may allah azzawajjal strenghten the islamic resistance movements, hamas, islamic jihad, and al aqsa martys brigade in order to punish and destroy these oppressers.

And as for iran and norht korea, let america even try forcing iran and norht korea to develop nuclear bombs! Its okay for US to harbor weapons of mass destruction but no one else!!!!! In the words of mohammad khatami of Iran, 'if american forces invade iran then the streets of iran will become a burning hell for them'!

As I said, those that call for the spilling of US blood are often the most remote from where they can actually do it. And posting on a US server in order to say it.........

format_quote Originally Posted by Hash

If allah wills it the time will come for the brothers to go fight the oppresser and defend our muslim lands, this is a honour not a burden.

Well said Hash within the protectuion of the UK, voicing your arrogance over a US server.

Amir, I am sorry for the tone I displayed in that last post. I do get a bit upset when I hear people complaining how repressive America is. Let us pretend a great Jinn allowed every person on this Earth, to live with their families where they truly wanted, and nothing could stop them. This is what I think would happen. Most of Cuba would be found relocated in Florida. Half of America would be speaking in Spanish. A better part of China would find themselves crowded in America's university towns, so the kids could get a good education and better future. Most of Africa would be emptied into the countries of the free world. A good part of the Muslims of the Mid-East would go to America, where they would be free of the repression found in most of that region of the world, and live in peace and be treated no differently then anyone else. Yet there are those who blame America for all the failings of the leadership of the countries they live in. I get a little tired of it. When it comes to where it counts, really counts, people vote with their feet, and those feet point to America more often then not. Who, just who freely decides to move to such countries as Pakistan, Sudan, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Cuba, North Korea...etc? Hardly a soul. Yet it is mostly from these countries we hear about America the Oppressor. Again, I am sorry how I sounded in my last post, I will try to keep my cool better.

Then why dont you use your brain once in a while!

There is no jungle or desert in Britian

Well, as for the jungle mainstream British Troops would continue to wear the standard DPM material.

yet the British armed forces are extensively trained under these conditions.

This is not true, specialist infantry units who form part of a "Rapid Response" batallion receive such training. "On the job" training is a major part of how a British Soldier would learn using his superiors as their trainer in unfirmiliar surroundings.

The middle-east is full with jungles and deserts, and so the British forces are pumped with all this ytraining ready to go to war with muslims in the middle-east

No, the British Armed Forces role is to carry out the policies of the elected government of the day, the British are labelled "The Borrowers" by US forces because the British Forces were so ill prepared for such action in such places. Their was not even the correct body armour, and during the first gulf war the British SA80 along with the warrior's were very poor in the conditions they were in "Desert". I object that on one hand you accuse the British forces of training to go to war against specifically Muslim's, why did they form a major part in Bosnia. Their is a lot of wrong in the world today, we can all accept this and all acknowledge a difference of opinion. But you cannot say with any credibility that the British Forces train specifically to fight against Muslims. Why do you complain about people having bad opinion on Muslims which I do not accept as a majority, yet have equally an agressive view against british troops. I was in the British Forces, if you don't take any credibility from what my opinion is then I have wasted my time, but I am puzzled as to why you said that, To the brave Mulsim Turk's from the thin red line, we acknowledge your brave stance.

Its not rocket science, it ain't any kind of science.......

Without prejudice

I refer my honourable freind to the answer I gave a moment ago!

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