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    Is the position that a woman, Moslem or not, who does not wear hijaab, is eligible for rape, a valid one?
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    If the women doesn't dress modestly she'll put here self at risk

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by dishdash View Post
    Is the position that a woman, Moslem or not, who does not wear hijaab, is eligible for rape, a valid one?

    subhanallah, where does this false notion come from?

    if i walk through a park at night where muggers lurk is it my sin if i am robbed or theirs?

    it is clearly their sin for doing the robbery, not mine for walking there. you could argue i was foolish, but the sin is theirs not mine.

    in the same way, a woman dressed inappropiately is perhaps taking a greater risk than otherwise but her sin is not dressing properly, men still have their own duty to keep their trousers on.

    uring caution upon a woman to help protect herself by dressing modestly is not the same as blaming her if she is attacked if she is not dressed modestly.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    If the women doesn't dress modestly she'll put here self at risk
    That is ridiculous. A hijab isn't protection. Someone who wants to rape someone does so for desire to harm women, not have sex. It's about dominance, not desire.

    Wearing a hijab isn't going to save anyone from rape.
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post

    in the same way, a woman dressed inappropiately is perhaps taking a greater risk than otherwise but her sin is not dressing properly, men still have their own duty to keep their trousers on.
    It is her sin because it is not in accordance with the Hijab of Islam.
    Therefore both the rapist and the woman (not dressed well) are sinful
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by NahidSarvy View Post
    That is ridiculous. A hijab isn't protection. Someone who wants to rape someone does so for desire to harm women, not have sex. It's about dominance, not desire.

    Wearing a hijab isn't going to save anyone from rape.
    It does save one from rape. Imagine two women. One covered in hijab and one showing her body. Who is more at risk?
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by NahidSarvy View Post
    That is ridiculous. A hijab isn't protection. Someone who wants to rape someone does so for desire to harm women, not have sex. It's about dominance, not desire.

    Wearing a hijab isn't going to save anyone from rape.
    Salaam

    It's disire people who rape do it for sex simple as.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by Muslim Soldier View Post
    It is her sin because it is not in accordance with the Hijab of Islam.
    Therefore both the rapist and the woman (not dressed well) are sinful

    assalaamu alaykum,

    you saying she is sinful for the rape?

    no, she is sinful for not covering properly, not for the man raping her. that is his choice and his sin.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by dishdash View Post
    Is the position that a woman, Moslem or not, who does not wear hijaab, is eligible for rape, a valid one?
    Rape is a crime. There is no such thing as being 'eligible' for it.

    Br. Dawud stated it perfectly.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by dishdash View Post
    Is the position that a woman, Moslem or not, who does not wear hijaab, is eligible for rape, a valid one?

    i dont quite get ur question..wat exactly do you mean? As in will she get the blame? Would she still get raped wid hijab on or wat? ..sorry..i jus dont get ur question..
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    brother Dawud what I was saying is that it is her sin if she doesnt cover herself properly
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    salaam

    one can go out naked, but no1 has d rite 2 rape dem!! if dey do den dats der sin,

    also if 1 dnt wear d hijab, its der sin & but dey wont get punished if dey get eyed up or raped! dats d person who does it, der sin!!
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    Salaam

    In brother 'DishDash's' defence I don't think he agrees with it he was just asking the question.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi View Post
    salaam

    one can go out naked, but no1 has d rite 2 rape dem!! if dey do den dats der sin,
    one can not go out naked because it is against Islam hence a sin
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    naaaaa u dnt say lol
    bro i was jus statin a fact & makin me point
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Rape is a tool of harm and dominance, motivated by a desire to humiliate and hurt. Rapists respond to pain and fear, not desire for intimacy. Wearing hijab won't prevent rape- just ask the legions of Bosnian and Sudanese women who have been raped as a war crime. No piece of cloth will prevent rape- making the world safer for all will.
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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by NJUSA View Post
    Rape is a tool of harm and dominance, motivated by a desire to humiliate and hurt. Rapists respond to pain and fear, not desire for intimacy. Wearing hijab won't prevent rape- just ask the legions of Bosnian and Sudanese women who have been raped as a war crime. No piece of cloth will prevent rape- making the world safer for all will.
    good point

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    good point
    assalaamu alaykum,

    no it is a bad point. we are talking about two different things, one is the rape as a war crime to hurt and humiliate a people such as happened in bosnia and still happens all over the world today.

    the other is about lust, it is about a certain attitude amongst men of seeing a woman and therefore wanting her.

    now if he sees two women, one dressed very little, showing off all her 'assets' and the other dressed modestly and covering herself who is he going to go for?

    there is also the issue of the fact that the kuffar no longer have fear of the muslims, when people take action and make sure these people are punished then people will fear even looking at a muslim women in the wrong way.

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    Re: Hijaab and rape...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    assalaamu alaykum,

    no it is a bad point. we are talking about two different things, one is the rape as a war crime to hurt and humiliate a people such as happened in bosnia and still happens all over the world today.

    the other is about lust, it is about a certain attitude amongst men of seeing a woman and therefore wanting her.

    now if he sees two women, one dressed very little, showing off all her 'assets' and the other dressed modestly and covering herself who is he going to go for?

    there is also the issue of the fact that the kuffar no longer have fear of the muslims, when people take action and make sure these people are punished then people will fear even looking at a muslim women in the wrong way.

    assalaamu alaykum,
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    Rape is always about control. A man that rapes for the sake of being filled with lustful desires lacks the ability to control himself. A man that rapes in a war situation is exerting control of an innocent.

    I don't understand your statement about kuffar no longer having fear over muslims. Are you suggesting that they should? I can understand a mutual respect. I can't understand one religious group fearing the other.


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