One thing that greatly troubles me about Islam is the lack of female clergy.
I believe very strongly in women clergy. It is more than simply women's rights. I believe in a religion women must hold equal position in clerical positions as men. This is because women interpret things differently than men. An entire faith can be effected by whether or not women can be clergy. A woman will see things in scripture and other things, in different ways than a man and vice versa. Catholicism, for example, is very male dominant because women are not allowed to be priests.
I think it also very disheartening and almost putting down to girls growing up. Yes, Allah sees you as equal to men, no sorry you cannot give the sermons in the mosque. I know it was for me.
I was told by my mother that women are not allowed to be clergy because it is inconvenient. That having a family, raising kids, then going to the mosque to preach is difficult. What if you aren't married? What if you are willing and want to do it anyway? And what kind of excuse is that? It's inconvenient?
Were there female clergy at the time of the prophet (pbuh)?
NO
therefore stop arguing and wanting to start innovation in our religion. every innovator goes straight to hell
Islam is complete dont need ur 2 cent views
well you see we do give women extremely important roles in islam, infact it equates the roles of men.
women have taken positions of great piety before, such as Maryam the mother of mary, who is believed to be the greatest woman to ever exist in islam. They dont need positions of clergy to be great, and Allah knows best what position is suitable most for whom
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well you see we do give women extremely important roles in islam, infact it equates the roles of men.
women have taken positions of great piety before, such as Maryam the mother of mary, who is believed to be the greatest woman to ever exist in islam. They dont need positions of clergy to be great, and Allah knows best what position is suitable most for whom
i apologies
It just that i hear it soo often people think they should give women more rights in islam, when i believe no other religion gives better rights to women than islam
i hope i can help you if you sincerely want to know not someone who just wants to argue
first i want to say that islam is the only religion which accepted women's narrations and women's fatwa if you know the terms and ummuna aicha may god be pleased with her narrated almost the third of the religion and she used to clarify many matter for the companions of the prophet and so did the other wives of the prophet and student ( tulab al 3ilm) came from different places to learn from them, there was also many women who used to teach in mosques and they were wives of some great immams.
and what you said about women's understanding and seeing things in a different way i don't agree with that because in our faith and in our religion the truth is the truth and it doesn't need any personal interpretation there is a saying which says ( it's by the truth that men are not not by the men we know the truth ) your interpretation or my interpration or someone's else doesn't matter really because our religion is two things an order for the good and a warning from the bad.
being clergy or not doesn't make any difference really but in life god created us so that each one will have a task to perform but we are equal in responsability and what makes the difference is our faith and our relation with god.the example of men and women in that matter is like the example of a tire and a gear box in a car you can't say that the tired or the engine is better than the gear box or the brakes because each one has a role and without it nothig will work or if it works it will be faulty so when we say clergy man it doesn't mean that no clergy means the woman is less worth than a man but it's just a matter of what we were created for and god who created us knows better than you and i puts each one in his position and if we just accept and understand why we are put where we are we will not what we are now and many things would have changed
sorry for making it so long but i have an advice for you be careful with questions they whether help us or make us sink in doubt and confusion
may god guide us all to what he loves and to hi straight way
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And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
I think it also very disheartening and almost putting down to girls growing up.
not necessarily...i think it depends on how its taught to the individual quite honestly. i mean if this 'teaching'; is taught with harshess and its coupled with the mentality that women are inferior to men, than yes, it may come across as something harsh. however, if its taught with positiveness, etc than it comes of as something really beautiful-which is is- alhamdulillah! so yeah, it depends on how its taught to the individual.
Yes, Allah sees you as equal to men, no sorry you cannot give the sermons in the mosque. I know it was for me.
can u image if a women got up to give a sermon...i mean women possess beauty different to a guy. she can look attractive in so many ways, including her voice. in Islam, the women is told not to make her voice soft, what if a women got up and her voice is like this...and it attracts men...where is the humility before Allah gone.
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
i apologies
It just that i hear it soo often people think they should give women more rights in islam, when i believe no other religion gives better rights to women than islam
Not a snotty question, I promise!
but what are women rights in islam?
In england, Women just do as they please, my friend got married to a young american girl and she spent more time in the pub getting hammered than she did with him and the way she acted really let the side down for women, he did nothing and has now just recently filed for divorce. I think its a shame that women in the UK (not all women) cant control themselves around other people.
can u image if a women got up to give a sermon...i mean women possess beauty different to a guy. she can look attractive in so many ways, including her voice. in Islam, the women is told not to make her voice soft, what if a women got up and her voice is like this...and it attracts men...where is the humility before Allah gone.
Can the men not control themselves? I have a naturally soft voice and I dont find men falling at my feet because of it? My brother went to church to have his daughter christened and the vicar was female and he wasnt attracted to her!!? She is a woman of the cloth therefore she is repected for that, surely it would be the same, if not more so, as I feel Islam is a more respectful and peaceful religion.
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
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