Is it haram for girls to live out?

Just a quick question is it haram for girls to live out? Like live in their Uni? It's not someone who doesn't have any other option...but someone who might be considering unis out of London. Thanks

Bump, I'm also very interested in the answer to this..

girls should have mahrams with them


dont throw yourself into fire

Yes in Islam a woman should have "mehram" with them...........

Anonymous Gender........ Yes at the age of 40 and the experiences i have had with life i think i am old enough........

I think at uni age you probably will make alot of mistakes i know i did.... you get sidetracked, you mix with the wrong society, no matter how strong you are or think you are people screw up so why not protect yourself from that to start off with........

My brother-in-law passed away today and left 5 children behind. My sister died nearly 5 years ago............ My nephew went out of control, we all need someone to protect us honey and only we can protect ourselves from harm and temptation............

I was not ever allowed to leave the house without my brother on my trail but now i realise it was for my own good. Now i have a husband/son if one is not there the other is, so i feel protected and safe..................ps by the way i teach English in a secondary school............. I think i am old enough now to know right from wrong...........I hope when i see my students going wrong the advice i give them they are always grateful and look upto me. InshAllah...............

why can't you live on an all girls dorm?
I know many people who don't have mahrams.. my cousin for instance, both her parents died, and her only brother works in kuwait.. there is no one to escort her anywhere.. should she forgo education or even getting groceries at this stage and await a man to escort her? another distant cousin. was living with her mom, her dad and brother both died young congenital heart diseases, my distant aunt recently died two ramadan's ago.. sob7an Allah.. what is her daughter to do now the amazing thing is that her mother is supporting the wife of her deceased son with her dead husband's pension and when she dies no more pensions dispensed, and now her sister in law is bothering her for money she doesn't have.. folks have a way of pretending to be your good friend when you have money and a good education, but they don't bother with you when you are poor and orphaned, might even harass you.. so people don't help her, and she in turn can't help she who is even less fortunate than her-- she came from a very strict family, and she is actually past the age of forty without marriage or a particularly good education, because of very stringent upbringing.


only you can decide for yourself if you are going to be good or wicked.. living on campus as a way to let loose or get close to Allah while attaining a good education...

I am personally not a judgmental person and may not be giving the best advise here.. but can tell you one thing with sincerity.. a good education is worth its weight in gold, further supported by Islam as education is indeed compulsory on every Muslim---

if you know what is right from wrong, then guard your chastity.. but no reason to be a slave to society or a husband who might not be particularly charitable (as I have seen some folks on this very forum advocate wife beating)

your strength will always be in your education, and with a good education insha'Allah comes a level head to distinguish right from wrong for yourself!

It is easy to be of noble character and give mighty moral advise when you are not living other people's unfortunate circumstances...

and Allah swt knows best

I am deeply sorry for your loss sister zahida --
May Allah make this difficult time easy on you and your family.. grant your sister and brother in law Jannat al firdaws, and replace the sorrows of those left behind with felicity and serenity ..

ameen

JazaakAllah sister this is a very difficult time for our family........

Especially for the children.....................

Skye Ephémérine said:

I am deeply sorry for your loss sister zahida --
May Allah make this difficult time easy on you and your family.. grant your sister and brother in law Jannat al firdaws, and replace the sorrows of those left behind with felicity and serenity ..

ameen

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sister skye, with all due respect i must say that there is a huge difference between a lady capable of having her mahram around her and one who does not.

in a perfect islamic state a guardian would have been assigned by the state for such a lady or at least someone would have married her.


but sister even if you or other muslim sisters are amazingly strong against the fitnah IT IS THE ADVICE OF RASOOLULLAH sallallahi alaihi wasallaam that a lady should have a mahram with her when travelling so far from home.

Zahida said:

I think at uni age you probably will make alot of mistakes i know i did.... you get sidetracked, you mix with the wrong society, no matter how strong you are or think you are people screw up so why not protect yourself from that to start off with........
InshAllah...............

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Do these ‘mistakes’ only happen to female Muslims? Do young male Muslims not makes ‘mistakes’? Do you advocate that young male Muslims should have a guardian with them if they live in halls of residence?

I was taught that taking those first steps of independence and yes making mistakes was good because it made me a more capable, resiliant and stronger person. I am even older than you and I can tell you that you learn a lot from making mistakes and as you get older you are exposed to the possibility of making even bigger mistakes.

Thinker said:

Do these ‘mistakes’ only happen to female Muslims? Do young male Muslims not makes ‘mistakes’? Do you advocate that young male Muslims should have a guardian with them if they live in halls of residence?

I am older than you and I was taught that taking those first steps of independence and yes making mistakes was good because it made me a more capable, resiliant and stronger person. I am even older than you and I can tell you that you learn a lot from making mistakes and as you get older you are exposed to the possibility of making even bigger mistakes.

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Ive got one simple flippin' answer for people of your type: what Islam legislates, goes! end of! Muslim women/islam dont need people of your type acting as or "heros" saving our us from the "cruelty" of Islam...go look in your own "backyard" and rectify the problems that have your women "liberated" before you come and "rescue" ours

Ramlah said:

Ive got one simple flippin' answer for people of your type: what Islam legislates, goes! end off! Muslim women/islam dont need people of your type acting as or 'heros' saving our us from the "cruelty" of Islam...go look in your own "backyard" and rectify the problems that have your women "liberated" before you come and "rescue" ours

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Actually I am genuinley interested to know the answer. Or are you suggesting the answer is that Muslims should just blindly do as they are instructed without questioning anything?

Thinker said:

Actually I am genuinley interested to know the answer.

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the way you worded it sounded like you were having a go
i.e

Do these ‘mistakes’ only happen to female Muslims? Do young male Muslims not makes ‘mistakes’? Do you advocate that young male Muslims should have a guardian with them if they live in halls of residence?

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Or are you suggesting the answer is that Muslims should just blindly do as they are instructed without questioning anything?

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my whole point was that what islam says, goes... theres a fine line between asking about your religion, and questioning/doubting it. it sounded like you were asking as to criticize...

I think you should look to stay at home on the 1st instance... going away from home may seem all great fun, may make you look independent but it is not all that... no matter how strong you may think you are and how pious you could be the devil is always working on you...

so dont put your self in a place where you might start dancing with the devil...

Zahida said:

Anonymous Gender........ Yes at the age of 40 and the experiences i have had with life i think i am old enough........

I think at uni age you probably will make alot of mistakes i know i did.... you get sidetracked, you mix with the wrong society, no matter how strong you are or think you are people screw up so why not protect yourself from that to start off with........

My brother-in-law passed away today and left 5 children behind. My sister died nearly 5 years ago............ My nephew went out of control, we all need someone to protect us honey and only we can protect ourselves from harm and temptation............

I was not ever allowed to leave the house without my brother on my trail but now i realise it was for my own good. Now i have a husband/son if one is not there the other is, so i feel protected and safe..................ps by the way i teach English in a secondary school............. I think i am old enough now to know right from wrong...........I hope when i see my students going wrong the advice i give them they are always grateful and look upto me. InshAllah...............

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May Allah give your family sabar... and bless those who have passed away.

Skye Ephémérine said:

but can tell you one thing with sincerity.. a good education is worth its weight in gold, further supported by Islam as education is indeed compulsory on every Muslim---

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Thats what my mother keeps reminding me LOL

I honestly dont know why anyone would want to live away from home. I like travel 2 hours a day to go to uni but would never think of living on campus, ill prefer to be at home at nights. Theres nothing like home sweet home, mums cooking and all

Mz said:

but sister even if you or other muslim sisters are amazingly strong against the fitnah IT IS THE ADVICE OF RASOOLULLAH sallallahi alaihi wasallaam that a lady should have a mahram with her when travelling so far from home.

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Traveling with out a mahram is not the same thing as living alone. You could live in the same room as your mahram, or the same house, or the same city, or even a different city, if your mahram dropped you off there and then went back.

So yeah, traveling without a mahram =/= living without a mahram.

I made a post anonymously which upset a munnajid/islamqa groupie and some mod(dunno who) deleted it

say someone finds a place in Law School/Faculty at Cambridge University and her home is in Leeds what is she to do?

folks have a strange way of obsessing over the dumbest detail and don't appear particularly concerned when you are orphaned, widowed, battered woman with no source of income so long as you are wearing a tent and finding some mahram even an 11 year old dopey little kid to escort you..

sob7an Allah
what can I tell you.. is it any wonder why we are in such bad shape?

I don't believe that all of Muslims on this site agree with vocal folk on this forum, because they might be shunned for it, they keep quite

Alpha Dude™;1041450 said:

Try not to make negative assumptions, please.

Your post was deleted (not by me) because it was an abuse of the anonymous account. If you have something to say, when there is no need to be anonymous about it, then please use your own account in future.

It really makes no sense to "hide" like that.

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it was replied to by a lady who said: "shame on you, not all kafirs are going to space"

in response to my

it is up to the Muslimah to make it halal or haraam by not indulging/indulging in Islamically illicit acts

that we were drowning ourselves in out of context detail while kafirs had conquered the outer space"

more or less those words and a bit more



http://english.islamtoday.net

Alpha Dude™;1041481 said:

Sorry, I don't get what point you're trying to make by highlighting my sentence and saying something that seems quite unrelated?

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I was denying making a "negative assumption" and was admitting to making a calculated guess

I was saying that it was not deleted because "abuse" of anon account (I've used it before) it was deleted because of that lady's reply (which was also deleted at the same time).

had it been for abuse of anon account my other anon posts would not still be here in other threads