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    There is alot of confusion regarding sects but this is in my opinion the easy part.

    In order to stop this thing we must go back to the true source and Wallahi everything is preserved hence nobody can lie or take things from his pocket and add it to his sect practices but Subhanallah it still happens and have been happening for so many years and centuries.

    Understanding the Quran and the hadith in itself is very simple and easy hence it is direct speech or someone relating what the prophet said in a gathering.

    Islam reject Innovations and Shirk and if you read the Quran you will understand that shirk is considered a major sin followed by innovations and one of the reasons innovation is considered sin is because they knew about the future and that innovation would be a major issue.

    Islam in itself was designed to be modest hence it refuses omans and superstitious believes. It is pretty much basic and keeping yourself to the basics you will gain most in the hereafter.

    Majority of the sects have extreme innovations while others have shirk in their practices so the Question is how can we identify them? It is pretty simple everything out of the norm such as prayers that seem rather awkward is mostly innovation or shirk example people going to a mawlana because they didn't get a child for a long time? This is out of Islam because that Mawlana is a magician period and mawlana's giving omelette's with surah Yasin etc etc all these things are magic.

    Hence why Islam teaches you to trust Allah(swt) keep your duas and seek things from Allah(swt) directly don't go to a magician who gives himself out to be mawlana.

    5 prayers, Dua only to Allah(swt) when asking of something whether it is forgiveness or worldly affairs such as gains. You don't need any form of intercession with Allah(swt) because he can see you and hear you just call out to him period.

    Don't add anything such as innovations to your prayers and do it accordingly as the prophet(Sa) did which is simple salah after you find out. Give Zakat if you can and make Hajj if you can. Believe in Allah, His prophets, Angels, Books and Destiny.

    If you want to find out what is haram and halal seek your source back to the Quran and Hadith don't get fooled by anyone. If someone comes to you with a hadith make sure you find that same hadith to verify it whether it is true or not. Alot of mystical sects have gone out unfortunately who base their teachings and practices to the prophet(sa) while he did not do these things neither did his sahaba. Islam was meant to be simple and designed that way example sects like Sufism all sects, Shia, Barevlis, Qadiyans, Haabash and allsorts of other mystical sects that practice things that has no link to the prophet(sa) whatsoever and these are worships and practices that differ from the prophet(sa) example Tawassul? I will explain to you how this practice is dengerous. Calling out to Ali(ra) directly in your dua instead of Allah(swt) like saying '' O Ya Ali grant me wealth'' or ''O Muhammad grant me health'' while others call directly to other shayuks, saints and prophets who died centuries ago while the Shia directly call out to Mahdi and write letters to him asking so and so. This is major shirk folks and very evil practice in nature. Allah(swt) don't share worship with anyone between the heavens and the earth (Salah and Dua) all most be directed towards only him and anything besides this is considered major shirk and I know these who support tawassul like to say this is intercession so forth and so on but hey you are literally calling out on someone who died while you know Allah is so close to you then anyone else he can see you and hear you so what is the point in calling out to someone who died centuries ago that was the servant of Allah anyways. You see it's pointless also from logical point of view.

    We live in age of information where access to such things is easy and translated into multiple languages.
    ...

    The Quran and hadith have no contradictions and Allah(swt) makes himself clear absolutely. Grave-worship, Tawassul, All this thing directing your dua to other except Allah(swt) like asking money from Ali(ra) The Prophet(sa) and other saints who died ages ago and can't hear you and Ali(ra) even burned some who made shirk on him one time. While other believe that Mahdi has some magical powers and can hear peoples dua etc etc. That is ridiculous and that is not the message the prophet brought with him nor the message the prophets previously brought with them and letting anyone except Allah being the one who hears dua? Other believe in intercession? the question is for what? Allah(swt) can hear you perfectly fine and he can see you. Oman's and superstitious believes have lead them into shirk and other bizarre worship activities that is far remote from what the Prophets of Allah have brought from heaven.

    Tawassul, grave-worship, saint over-glorification, omans, superstitious beliefs, Innovations etc etc. All this leads to shirk and Bid'ah addiction leading millions and billions of people away from the truth.

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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    That is why we do have ulama to guide us on what to do.

    For many of us it can be a bit unclear as how to go about certain aspects of worship, we dont go about finding interpretations of Islamic laws simply to suit us, but we rely on righteous scholars who explain every part of Deen to us, alhamdulillah.

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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati



    Tbh, I never really studied any sect, nor do I want to.

    I just stick to the Qur'aan, and Sunnah. Worship is only for Allah, Allah said to not worship except Him. Allah is one, belief in the Angels, etc.

    Allahu alam.
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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.

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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati


    Any Muslim can benefit from reading hadiths from al-Bukhari and Muslim, whether on his own or with others. As for studying hadith, Sheikh Shuayb al-Arnaut,
    emphasizes that the science of hadith deals with a vast and complex literature, a tremendous sea of information that requires a pilot to help one navigate, without which one is bound to run up on the rocks. In this context, Sheikh Shuayb once told us, "Whoever doesn't have a sheikh, the Devil is his sheikh, in any Islamic discipline."

    In other words, there are benefits the ordinary Muslim can expect from personally reading hadith, and benefits that he cannot, unless he is both trained and uses other literature, particularly the classical commentaries that explain the hadiths meanings and their relation to Islam as a whole.

    http://masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/studyh.htm


    A combined study of the relevant verses reveals that the Holy Qur’ân deals with two different types of subjects. One is concerned with the general statements about the simple realities, and it includes the historic events relating to the former prophets and their nations, the statement of Allâh’s bounties on mankind, the creation of the heavens and the earth, the cosmological signs of the divine power and wisdom, the pleasures of the Paradise and the torture of the Hell, and subjects of similar nature. The other type of subjects consists of the imperatives of Sharî’ah, the provisions of Islâmic law, the details of doctrinal issues, the wisdom of certain injunctions and other academic subjects.

    The first type of subject, is, no doubt, easy to understand. But by no means the proposition can be extended to the inference of legal rules and the interpretation of the legal and doctrinal provisions contained in the Book.

    Regarding the type of verses which require explanation, the Holy Qur’ân itself says,



    And these similitudes We mention before the people. And nobody understands them except the learned. (29:43)

    Thus, the “easiness” of the subjects of the first type does not exclude the necessity of a Scholar who can explain all the legal and practical implications of the imperatives contained in the Holy Qur’ân.

    http://www.ccm-inc.org/oldsite/iqra/articles/authsun/chap2.html
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Islam is free from sects and innovations.

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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm Abed View Post
    Islam is free from sects and innovations.
    man makes them?




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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Quote Originally Posted by greenhill View Post
    man makes them?




    Yes thats true.

    Instead of observing sunnah they have added so many unecessary things.
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    If solving sect issues would to be easy, don´t you think people would done it already? And as they haven´t, maybe theory is easier than do it in real?
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    Hence the need for a genuine Islamic State with widespread baya' to hear and to obey -the sura council of which consists of well paid and truthful scholars and intellectuals from multiple backgrounds who work sincerely for Allah's sake, and are able to state differences of opinion without fear of people - and who are able to reach consensus on what should be the best course in getting things right with Allah's commands and good pleasure in mind -which the united Ummah will accept as long as it's genuine.....
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    Hence the need for a genuine Islamic State with widespread baya' to hear and to obey -the sura council of which consists of well paid and truthful scholars and intellectuals from multiple backgrounds who work sincerely for Allah's sake, and are able to state differences of opinion without fear of people - and who are able to reach consensus on what should be the best course in getting things right with Allah's commands and good pleasure in mind -which the united Ummah will accept as long as it's genuine.....
    hadith says the righteous ulema will always be there for us:

    Imam Muslim has related the Hadith:

    "... Uqba said, 'He knows, so far as I am concerned, I heard the Prophet (Peace be upon him) say: A group of people from my Ummah will continue to fight in obedience to the Command of Allah, remaining dominant over their enemies. Those who will opose them shall not do them any harm. They will remain in this condition until the Hour over takes them.' ...'" (Sahih Muslim, 3/4721, English ed'n, see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 9/414, English ed'n)

    Imam Nawawi (d. 676/1277, Rahimahullah) said in his Sharh Muslim (vol. 2, pg. 143):

    "The group of people (mentioned in the above Hadith) consists of scholars, jurisprudents, authorities on Hadith, those who enjoin Good (Maroof) and forbid Evil (Munkar) and all such persons who do good deeds. Such righteous persons may be found spread all over the world."

    Imam al-Tirmidhi (Rahimahullah) said:

    "The explanation of al-Jama'ah according to the people of knowledge: They are the people of fiqh, knowledge and Hadith." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 4/2167; Ahmad Shakir ed'n)
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    hadith says the righteous ulema will always be there for us:

    Imam Muslim has related the Hadith:

    "... Uqba said, 'He knows, so far as I am concerned, I heard the Prophet (Peace be upon him) say: A group of people from my Ummah will continue to fight in obedience to the Command of Allah, remaining dominant over their enemies. Those who will opose them shall not do them any harm. They will remain in this condition until the Hour over takes them.' ...'" (Sahih Muslim, 3/4721, English ed'n, see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 9/414, English ed'n)

    Imam Nawawi (d. 676/1277, Rahimahullah) said in his Sharh Muslim (vol. 2, pg. 143):

    "The group of people (mentioned in the above Hadith) consists of scholars, jurisprudents, authorities on Hadith, those who enjoin Good (Maroof) and forbid Evil (Munkar) and all such persons who do good deeds. Such righteous persons may be found spread all over the world."

    Imam al-Tirmidhi (Rahimahullah) said:

    "The explanation of al-Jama'ah according to the people of knowledge: They are the people of fiqh, knowledge and Hadith." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 4/2167; Ahmad Shakir ed'n)
    News and shariah of deen are two diffent things, shariah always takes precedence over news.
    The deen is never fully complete until the leaders, judges and citizens live and rule by the law of Allah - therefore being content with lack of justice is flawed and unstable. Effort is required to the best reasonable ability of each individual or there may come a time when Allah refuses to listen to the calls of distress of a nation when it becomes ensnared by it's inevitable oppression due to unjust Godless rule.
    Judging by the hukm of Allah is a part of amr bil ma'roof and nahi 'an-il-munkar.
    Thinking logically points to the fact that living under secularism often forces compromise with falsehood for any 'ulamaa who have status and live safely - and the contentment of mankind with living under the rule of tyrants who show arrogance towards Allah makes those who actually strive with might and main in Allah's way become targeted - and such compound oppression inevitably draws the wrath of Allah upon mankind.




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    On the authority of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart — and that is the weakest of faith.” [Muslim]

    I.e:

    On the authority of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say:
    “Whosoever of you sees an evil (injustice), let him/her change it with his/her hand (power, authority, strength, might, leverage);
    and if he/she is not able to do so, then [let him/her change it] with his/her tongue (explaining, protesting, pleading, speaking out, openly calling it out injustice as injustice, declaring openly one's own innocence of injustice);
    and if he/she is not able to do so, then with his/her heart (karh, dismay, dislike, hate, feel repulsed) — and that is the weakest of faith.”
    [Muslim]

    This is an important hadith because it shows that Muslims should not be innocent bystanders – we are obliged to do something to stop wrongdoing. It also outlines to us the order in which we must do something.

    If you see something wrong, the first point of call is to physically stop it (“…change it with his hand…”). For example, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “The parable of myself and the people is that of a man who lit a fire. When it illuminated its surroundings, the moths and other creatures which are attracted to light began to fall into it. He began to pull them out of the fire, but they overwhelmed him and continued to fall into it. I am the one pulling you away from the fire, but you keep going headlong into it.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (6002)].

    It is not enough for us to keep ourselves away from wrongdoing, we must help others as well, and stop them from falling into wrongdoing, and sins which could lead to the Hellfire. This part of the hadith also refers to stopping people from doing wrong to others or to yourself. Nowadays, there are many people who will not raise a finger to stop anti-social behaviour – this is not the characteristic of the righteous Muslim. If we have the ability to stop a crime or offence, then we must, no matter how small the action.

    If you are not physically able to change things or stop wrongdoings, then you must speak out against it, or advise against it, or advise a better way, or even call for help (“…[let him change it] with his tongue…”). We shouldn’t remain silent when we have the ability to speak up. You can warn someone against doing wrong, advise them to change their ways. Communication is not a pointless action – it can lead to bigger things. Campaigning can help but people do need to be focused on campaigns that actual achieve something, rather than those that hit brick walls.

    Finally, if you are powerless to act on any of the two methods above, then you must oppose it in your heart. As Muslims, we do not accept wrongdoings nor resign ourselves to living out lives where there is no opposition to wrongdoings. We do not lie and let the wrongdoers roll over us, step over us and spread their mischief to others. Wrong is wrong and the moment you let go of this in your heart, then you lose sight of what is good and what is wrong. You stop seeing wrong as wrong and good as good – the lines become blurred and what is wrong becomes allowable. If you hate the wrongdoing in your heart, then perhaps an opportunity will come in the future, where you can speak out or physically stop the wrong. As Allah Says in the Qur’an:

    “Verily, with hardship there is relief” (Qur’an 94:6)

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    وَتَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى الْبرِّ وَالتَّقْوَى وَلاَ تَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى الإِثْمِ وَالْعُدْوَانِ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ إِنَّ اللّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

    “Help one another in al-Birr and Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression.” [TMQ 5:2].


    Bukhari and Muslim narrated on the authority of Abu Bakr (ra) that the messenger (saw) said : "Any people in which there are sins done among them (whilst) they can change the evil however they do not change, Allah will cover them with a punishment from him".


    The Prophet (saw) said in a hadith narrated from Imam Muslim from Abu Sa’id al Khudri: “Whosoever sees a Munkar (an evil or wrong) let him/her change it by his/her hand, if he/she is unable let it be by his/her tongue. If he/she is unable- let it be by his/her heart, and this is the weakest of Iman”

    The Prophet (saw) said: “The master of martyrs is Hamza, and a man who stood up to a tyrant ruler to enjoin him (with the good) and forbid him (of the evil) and got killed.” [Reported by al-Haakim]. He (saw) said;


    Bukhari and Muslim narrated on the authority of Aisha (ra) that the messenger (saw) said: "O people ! Allah says: Enjoin good and forbid evil before you call me and I will not reply to you, and before you ask me and I will not give you, and before you seek my forgiveness and I will not give victory to you".

    Ahmad and Tabarani narrated on the authority of Udai ibn Umairah that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: ”Allah does not punish the general public because of the wrong doing of specific people until they see the evil (committed) among them while able to stop it and they do not. If they do that, Allah will punish the specific people and the general public..”

    Ahmad narrated on the authority of Abu Bakrah that the messenger said: "If the people see the Munkar (evil, wrong doing) and they do not change it, Allah will take them with a punishment".

    Hadith: “Nay, by Allah, you have to enjoin the good and forbid the wrong, and restrain the hand of the tyrant, and to force him on the truth and to confine him to the truth, otherwise Allah will be about to strike the hearts of some of you against others, then He will curse you as He cursed the Children of Israel”.

    Al-Bazzar and Tabarani narrated on the authority of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, .You shall enjoin good and you shall forbid munkar, or Allah will empower on you the evil ones, then your best ones will call upon Allah and He shall not respond..

    Reward & Status of those who fulfil the obligation

    Indeed the Prophet (saw) stated in one Hadeeth as narrated by Imam Bayhaqi (ra), “There will be from the end of my Ummah a people that will be rewarded like the first generation as they enjoin the Maroof and forbid the Munkar”.

    A narration with similar wording was narrated by Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (ra) in his Musnad Vol 4 pg 62 that the Prophet (saw) said, “Verily from my Ummah there will be a people that will be rewarded like the first generation, those who forbid the Munkar”.

    http://islamicsystem.blogspot.com/20...dding.html?m=1
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Greetings and peace be with you sister herb;

    If solving sect issues would to be easy, don´t you think people would done it already? And as they haven´t, maybe theory is easier than do it in real?
    Sadly, we have the same problem within Christianity, the solutions hangs and depends on loving kindness towards each other. We don't even have to agree with each other to be united. You could put a hundred Catholic priests in a room, and there would be disagreements amongst them. But somehow they stay united.

    I try and make a point of praying in two or three different Christian Churches each month, and I can feel united to each of them, despite our differences. I have been a Street Pastor for the last nine years, and I pray together with Christians from eight denominations, and we pray for each other too. I have also prayed together at interfaith gatherings.

    Unity hangs on kindness, mercy and forgiveness towards each other. There is only the 'One God' and the same God hears all our prayers despite our differences.

    In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God'

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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Lol eric, that's not even a related issue since it is a duty upon mankind to accept all of the messengers of God.
    Claiming that it's ok to have a thousand groups with all of them fundamentally at odds with each other even on basic things like which law to follow is really a display of corruption and ignorance, and such anarchic confusion worsens the situation.
    No kingdom divided against itself is capable of standing against itself - and the kingdom of God is one kingdom since God is one.
    No counterfeit or obsolete models can claim jurisdiction - only the truth.
    Only one set of people are ultimately saved, they are those who accept the truth and most just way which is obvious to them, accept the signs of Allah when they see them and droop not down or turn away as if they were deaf or blind, and who sincerely strive to establish the laws of Allah in justice and truth whilst seeking Allah's good pleasure.
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    Re: solving the sect issues and why this is easy to figure out and away from innovati

    Greetings and peace be with you Abz2000;

    No kingdom divided against itself is capable of standing against itself - and the kingdom of God is one kingdom since God is one.
    Amen, I agree with you.

    No counterfeit or obsolete models can claim jurisdiction - only the truth.
    Amen, I agree with you again. But truth must always lead towards compassion, mercy, forgiveness and kindness, when we honour these truths, then we shall find unity.

    Only one set of people are ultimately saved, they are those who accept the truth
    But none of us on this earth can judge in the way that Allah will judge. I seem to remember reading that even the prophet pbuh, said he would only find salvation through the mercy of Allah.

    In the spirit of praying to 'One God'

    Eric
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    You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.

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