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AntiKarateKid
04-28-2008, 03:49 PM
I would rather bring my question here instead on other sites for now. I have read quite a few different things on Adam ( pbuh). What was he like, was there the snake in the garden, was he a giant? These sort of things confuse me. Any clarifacation on this would be appreciated.
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- Qatada -
05-07-2008, 05:10 PM
:salamext:


The story of the snake is in the Bible, according to the Qur'an - Iblis (satan) whispered to both Adam and his wife Hawwa [Eve] (he never just influenced Eve like the Bible may say.) We also know they both repented, so Allah forgave them. There is no original sin in Islam, every soul is responsible for its ownself.


Check this link for the Islamic version insha Allah;
http://www.islamicboard.com/prophets...phet-adam.html
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suffiyan007
10-21-2008, 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by - Qatada -
:salamext:


The story of the snake is in the Bible, according to the Qur'an - Iblis (satan) whispered to both Adam and his wife Hawwa [Eve] (he never just influenced Eve like the Bible may say.) We also know they both repented, so Allah forgave them. There is no original sin in Islam, every soul is responsible for its ownself.


Check this link for the Islamic version insha Allah;
http://www.islamicboard.com/prophets...phet-adam.html
i quite agreed with Qatada, but somehow bible version in modern bible are different from the 1st bible...the true Gospel of Adam-Jesus...A.S. the origin of story about prophets in the book of allah..
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bewildred
10-21-2008, 08:21 PM
Hello,

I just wanted to add about the physical description of Adam. Every prophet or nabee had a predestined name. Remember the sentence "Moussa kana Adam". The word Adam describes a certain colour of skin. Is there any brother to help me with a link? Or anyone who's good in Arabic?
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barney
10-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Adam was 30 cubits as far as I know. Thats 90 feet tall or as high as 7 double decker buses. Eve obviously would be on the same scale, hopefully. Perhaps 77ft tall or thereabouts, if we take current human height relations.

Some interesting facts based on these measurements. His hands would have been one meter wide across the palm, the fingers thicker than drainpipes. He would have weighed about 200 tonnes.
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seeker-of-light
10-22-2008, 12:39 AM
wow! i didnt know that^^modern humans are pretty short now compared to the first humans, huh? (i am 5 foot 1 lol) i didnt know quranic and bible accounts of adam and eve are different either:)
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barney
10-22-2008, 08:17 AM
Yup , he's normal sized in the bible. Its a talking snake that tells Eve to scrump the Apple which dooms mankind to an eternity of unimaginable punishment. Eden is on earth some stuff like that.
Fairs fair though, it was a magic apple.
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DAWUD_adnan
10-22-2008, 09:25 AM
Originally Posted by bewildred
Hello,

I just wanted to add about the physical description of Adam. Every prophet or nabee had a predestined name. Remember the sentence "Moussa kana Adam". The word Adam describes a certain colour of skin. Is there any brother to help me with a link? Or anyone who's good in Arabic?


In this hadith it is to signify the dark skin of Musa (as), but the word Adam, can also be used to describe light (caucasian) skin colour. The Prophet(saw), used it with Issa (as) too.

Adam himself was of dark skin, which coincidentially, goes hand in hand with current research suggesting that the earliest humans originated from east africa ( Ethiopean, Somalian region).
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Zamtsa
12-24-2008, 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Paki Idol

Allah says that there are (evil)Nations which nobody can destroy except Himself.Take the the examples of the People of A'ad. I saw a picture displaying a native of Aad laying in his/her grave about 6-8 times taller than an average person. The war against Islam is based on lies and deceit and therefore Allah(InshAllah) will cause the truth of this war and Islam to be exposed in the long run. It is said that when falsehood spreads, it seems that it shall prevail over evrything but as it's root is weak it does not survive for long. Then Allah hurls truth against it which cut through it(falsehood) and in the end, the truth is victorious because it's root is strong .I suggest that you make your faith strong.Be steadfast as this life is temporary and all will be left behind. It is said that Money and Children are a test from Allah.
Yes I do wish Allah can perish these Nations. The Aad.
Can you beleive this? Like over 10x the size of any human being!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...t_skeleton.htm


(Picture of the dead giant could not be pictured in here)


I believe it's true and fact, eventhough IF it is hoax, I who had found a Shahih hadits which said like "Adam 'alaihi Salaam height was 60 Dzira' (30 Metres) and his descendants got shorter and shorter in height."

This is what I will be responsible in the Day of Al Qiyamah.


Assalamu’alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.
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muslimapoclyptc
01-25-2009, 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by barney
Adam was 30 cubits as far as I know. Thats 90 feet tall or as high as 7 double decker buses. Eve obviously would be on the same scale, hopefully. Perhaps 77ft tall or thereabouts, if we take current human height relations.

Some interesting facts based on these measurements. His hands would have been one meter wide across the palm, the fingers thicker than drainpipes. He would have weighed about 200 tonnes.
To be correct, it's actually 60 cubits:

Narrated Abu Hurayrah:

The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation."

(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 543)

A cubit is 18 inches, which is 1.5 feet. Hence, 1.5 x 60 = 90.
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Zamtsa
01-25-2009, 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by muslimapoclyptc
To be correct, it's actually 60 cubits:

Narrated Abu Hurayrah:

The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation."

(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 543)

A cubit is 18 inches, which is 1.5 feet. Hence, 1.5 x 60 = 90.
The Arabic is 60 Dzira', Dzira' means the range from the tip of the fingers to the elbow, it is 5o cm, so 50 x 60= 3,000 . 30 Meters tall.

And people are getting shorter from time to time. Have you see Fir'aun's corpse, isn't he as tall as 2 Meters?.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.
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muslimapoclyptc
01-25-2009, 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul Thayyib
The Arabic is 60 Dzira', Dzira' means the range from the tip of the fingers to the elbow, it is 5o cm, so 50 x 60= 3,000 . 30 Meters tall.
Yes, that's what a cubit is; the length of the forearm, from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger, which varied from 17-21 inches (43-53 cm). However, the average length was approximately 18 inches or 46 cm, which is why that's the standard one that is used. 50 cm is about 19.8 inches, so its fairly close. At 60 cubits, it would be about a 9 ft. difference.

So, which ever standard cubit/Dzira' measurement you choose to use for Adam's height, it would be between 85 ft. and 105 ft.

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Whatsthepoint
01-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul Thayyib
And people are getting shorter from time to time. Have you see Fir'aun's corpse, isn't he as tall as 2 Meters?.
People are getting taller actually.
And its questionable whether an individual of Adams height would even survive.
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alcurad
01-25-2009, 05:37 PM
it doesn't matter how tall Adam was, this hasn't much to do with Islam as a religion.
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ziyad786
01-25-2009, 05:49 PM
salam

why do people find it hard to belive the size of Adaam (ra)? when there are hadiths that state the size of humans in the akhira will be enormous! increase surface area increase pain or pleasure
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ziyad786
01-25-2009, 05:50 PM
and Adaam (As) was created in the heavens so is it any suprise his so big?
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muslimapoclyptc
01-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
People are getting taller actually.
Yes, but that is a trend that started in the last 200 years.

And its questionable whether an individual of Adams height would even survive.
Why do you say that?
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Zamtsa
01-25-2009, 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
People are getting taller actually.
And its questionable whether an individual of Adams height would even survive.
Yes, well he might need to eat the Coelacanth fishes, the whales, and eat a lot of fruits. So it's not that hard quite frankly.

Have you seen the corpse of Ramses II? He was 2 Meters, that's a rare thing now. So we couldn't say that all people of this century are 2 Meters tall, but the people of Egypt at that time were 2 Meters, like him.

And that's right the denizens of Jannah's face will be made similar to Adam's and also the height, the Shahih Hadits said that. Thanks. Iman couldn't be bought but by ourselves.
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Banu_Hashim
01-25-2009, 08:42 PM
Also, Aadam (AS) was created from dirt; picked from all different parts of the earth. So that's why the children of Aadam (AS), are black, white, good, bad and everything in between.

His body was moulded by Allah (SWT), and as far as I'm aware is the only Nabi to have this honour. To be created by the 'hands' of Allah (SWT).

Also, it's said that Aadam was created on his own image. This means that he was created in the adult form. He didn't go through the stages we went through such as embryo, feotus, child, adolescence etc.
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Zamtsa
01-25-2009, 10:17 PM
Na'am that's right, that's why Adam 'alaihi Salaam also had bad character inside him, and that belongs to all human kind.
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transition?
01-26-2009, 12:07 AM
:sl:


Anwar Al Awlaki has an interesting lecture on Prophet Adam (alayhisalam) in his Prophet series.
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sur
01-26-2009, 01:57 AM
................. removing my post coz what i said was already said...............
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Banu_Hashim
01-26-2009, 09:13 AM
Originally Posted by transition?
:sl:


Anwar Al Awlaki has an interesting lecture on Prophet Adam (alayhisalam) in his Prophet series.
He does. That's where I got my information from. :p
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