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Abdul-Raouf
06-29-2008, 02:59 AM
We can make dua individually after every prayer.. Im sure that is allowed.

But i have another doubt...

In our masjid by default..the Imam duas immediatley after finishing every Fard salah(5 Fard prayers)..and everyone says ameen.

eg: after the magribh fard prayer (after finishing the 3 rakahs)...he does dua...and everyone of us say ameen..is this a new practise..or was it there during Prophets time..?

Is it a allowed practise or not?

Please clarify..
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Eeman
06-29-2008, 03:01 AM
i thought you made dua after every salah?? no???
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Eeman
06-29-2008, 03:03 AM
why would it not be allowed to practise dua?
im a bit confused brother, dua is the most powerful tool Allah swt has bestowed upon His slaves and is another form of worship.
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afzalaung
06-30-2008, 04:59 AM
some people..esp in arab lands seems to have this thing against group du'as and Zkirs
dont know what their issue is..
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waji
06-30-2008, 05:06 AM
:sl:

I think there is no problem in making dua in a group

but why are u worried ??

:w:
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MSalman
06-30-2008, 05:18 AM
As-Salamu 'Alaykum

an act of worship is a bidah if it is done at a specific time and a specific way, which is not prescribed in the Qur'an or Sahih Sunnah! Do we find any evidence from Sahih Sunnah that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) made group du'a after every fard salah? The answer is no! If no such evidence exist, then how can we practise it?

Question: After fard salat (i.e. after saying salam), some people make Dua while others say only Tasbih Fatmi. Some people are adament that making Dua after salat is Bidat. This is causing some restraint in the cummunity speacially those who follow Imam Abu Hanifa or Shafai.
Can we make dua'a after salat.
Can we make dua'a with the imama after salat alltogether.

Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

It says in Fatawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah: Making du’aa’ after the obligatory prayers is not Sunnah if it is done by raising the hands, whether that is done by the imam alone or a member of the congregation alone, or it is done by them both together. Rather that is bid’ah, because it was not narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or any of his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) did that. With regard to making du’aa’ without doing that (raising the hands etc.), there is nothing wrong with it, because there are some ahaadeeth concerning that. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/103

The Committee was asked about raising the hands for du’aa’ after the five daily prayers – is it proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) raised his hands or not? If it is not proven, is it permissible to raise the hands after the five daily prayers or not?

They replied: It is not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) raised his hands in du’aa’ after the obligatory prayers as far as we know, so raising them after the salaam of an obligatory prayer is contrary to the Sunnah. Fataawa al-Lajnah, 7/104

The Committee also stated that saying du’aa’ out loud after the five daily prayers or regular Sunnah prayers, or reciting du’aa’ in unison as a regular practice is a reprehensible innovation (bid’ah), because it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) did anything like that. Whoever makes du’aa’ after the obligatory or regular Sunnah prayers in unison is going against the way of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, and for those people to accuse those who disagree with them of being kaafirs and not belonging to Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, is misguidance, ignorance and a distortion of the facts. Fataawa Islamiyyah, 1/319

And Allaah knows best.

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MuslimWays
06-30-2008, 09:50 AM
Jazakallah khair akhi (islamiclife) for sharing that with us and Abdul-Raouf for asking this interesting question.
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Umar001
06-30-2008, 12:30 PM
I dont think that fatwa was even from the Site Shaykh, but a group of Scholars, Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah.
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Eeman
06-30-2008, 01:09 PM
i always make dua after my prayers i dont see anything being wrong in it whatsoever!
thats when you truly connect with Allah swt and ask Him for fogiveness and whatever you want.

so basically what im doing is wrong? or has Allah swt only limited us to making dua certain times? like only between monday to wednesday and then the rest of the enquiries wont be dealt with cos of too much demand????

Why do some people make religion so hard for themselves? im not criticising just wondering!
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06-30-2008, 01:14 PM
:salamext:

Why do some people make religion so hard for themselves?
^ Exactly. Wake up and smell the coffee people.
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MuslimWays
06-30-2008, 03:38 PM
:w:

But isn't adding new things to the religion makes it harder to practice?

Surely following what is necessary is easier?
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Eeman
06-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by MuslimWays
:w:

But isn't adding new things to the religion makes it harder to practice?

Surely following what is necessary is easier?
is dua something we are adding to the religion?
is it not part of our religion already?
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06-30-2008, 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by MuslimWays
:w:

But isn't adding new things to the religion makes it harder to practice?

Surely following what is necessary is easier?
So making dua is not part of Islaam?!?!
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Güven
06-30-2008, 04:02 PM
Making Dua Makes iT even Better So Whats With All This ?
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Al-Zaara
06-30-2008, 04:13 PM
I came across this, though.

Raising Both the Hands and Making Dua

It is narrated that Abdullah Ibn Zubair (radhiallahu anhu) saw a man raising his hands and making dua before completing his salah. When the person had completed his salah, Hazrat Abdullah Ibn Zubair (radhiallahu anhu) went up to him and said: "Verily, Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) used to only raise his hands and make dua after completing his salah" (the narrators of this Hadith are all trustworthy — Majmauz Zawaaid, vol. 1, pg. 169).

It is also mentioned in the Fataawa of Ahle Hadith (vol. 1, pg.190) as well as in Fatawa Nazeeriyya (vol. 1, pg. 566) that in the light of the Sharia, the dua after salah is an authentically established practice and it is mustahab to do so.
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Al-Hanbali
06-30-2008, 04:18 PM
:salamext:

I think the issue here is not regarding whether or not its allowed to make du'aa; of course supplicating to Allaah (subhaanahau wa ta'ala) is not only permissible, but encouraged. The issue is about making such a practice something that MUST be done after every fardh prayer.

A quote from Muhammad al-Shareef:

Bismillah.

What we studied in Madinah was that the Prophet, sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam, did not command it, nor did he forbid it. This latter point is something people forget, HE DID NOT FORBID IT as much as he did not command it, sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

So, in conclusion, if it is institutionalized to the point where people think it is a MUST and that it is part of the Salah to make dua immediately after ... that's when it becomes bid'ah.

But if you are just sitting in the Masjid, you pray and then you wish to make dua ... it's alright in sha Allah.

And Allah knows best

PS: One should not make the mistake of thinking 'DUA' is bid'ah. I know a lot of people when they hear this fiqh issue, they abandon Dua altogether. Instead, one need only check themselves to make sure they are not institutionalizing dua at a specific non-Sunnah time, but keep on with their strong and consistent dua to Allah. Allah ta'ala loves to hear his servants when they raise their hands to him and ask of the goodness of this life and the next.
A similar thread on this issue: http://www.islamicboard.com/prayer/4...y-prayers.html
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Al-Zaara
06-30-2008, 04:22 PM
Exactly. A quote from Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam, regarding this:

Having said that, it must be remarked here that the status of collective supplication after obligatory prayers is Mustahab or Sunnah. Many individuals seem to believe that the supplication is an integral part of Salat, thus the one who does not supplicate is doing something which is wrong.

This belief must be avoided, as to supplicate after a prayer is not obligatory. If an individual does not supplicate, then he should not be rebuked or looked down upon. People must be left free to do what they want. For this reason, some of the scholars have stated that it would be better if the supplication was left out once in a while so that the concept on ‘necessity’ is removed from the minds of people.
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chacha_jalebi
06-30-2008, 04:23 PM
yeaah since it has been discussed many times, i think thread should be closed,

like the above post from sheikh muhammad al shareef sayss... its not a bidah, but to make it like part of the salaah that as soon as you finish it you have to raise hands and do dua, that would be a bidaah

like dua is not part of the salaah, there are duas in the salaah, and we are told that in sujood, we are closest to Allah (Swt) so make more dua, but dua after the prayer is not part of salaah!! thats what we need to understand,

also its authentically reported that after prayer, RasoolAllah (sal Allah hu aleyhi wasalam) said astaghfirallah x 3, and read other duas like allah humma antas salaam... rabbana atina fid dunya, and subhanallah alhumdulilla allah hu akbar... and ayah tul kursi anddd surah falaq, ikhlas, and naas!!

sho sho sho like its been discussed loads of time, :threadclo
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