shayateen locked up???

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assalamu alaikum

i jus gotta question.

when "they" say that the shayateen are locked up during ramadan then what issit that happens? what u benefit? coz im pretty (pretty pretty positive) sure that the shaitan is STILL OUT THER makin peoples do things haram, otherwise this world would be a heaven on earth right? but uglier. :D
and also ...

last time i checked ther were one shaytan not shayateen.


jus ur confused sis again :-[
wa 3alaikum assalam
 
:salamext:

I think the Main Big/Old ones are locked up, the little ones are still around.

Allaahu Aalim (someone please clarify)
 
Asalaamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu

its Iblees that is locked up but his students are still loose. but Allah hu Alim,

I was told this in a Hadeeth lesson but I'll be honest with you, I do not remember the Hadith or the reference so don't rely on this as it is without reference best this is to ask a scholar.
 
truemuslim said:
assalamu alaikum

i jus gotta question.

when "they" say that the shayateen are locked up during ramadan then what issit that happens? what u benefit? coz im pretty (pretty pretty positive) sure that the shaitan is STILL OUT THER makin peoples do things haram, otherwise this world would be a heaven on earth right? but uglier. :D
and also ...

last time i checked ther were one shaytan not shayateen.


jus ur confused sis again :-[
wa 3alaikum assalam
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Their are 2 opinions.

1) All shaaitans are locked up
2) All the "big ones" are locked up, but some still exist

To do haram, you do not need a shaaitan. Shaaitan is the influencer, like you could have had a bad friend in school who influenced you to do drugs - without the friend - it is still possible to do the sin.

Similarly, it is the nafs which cause you to do sin.
 
what? but when did iblis have babies??
why would ther be more than one shaytans??









did allah create them...purposly?



or issit that when shaitan was doin his crappy act of disobeyin allah, the shaytans "students" were behind him taking notes???


jazakumallah khair. :D
 
SixTen said:
Their are 2 opinions.

1) All shaaitans are locked up
2) All the "big ones" are locked up, but some still exist

To do haram, you do not need a shaaitan. Shaaitan is the influencer, like you could have had a bad friend in school who influenced you to do drugs - without the friend - it is still possible to do the sin.

Similarly, it is the nafs which cause you to do sin.
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well #2 makes sense...but wit questions.

yeh but somewhere i read said that shaitan controls ur nafs. and another place said with out shaitan thers no evil. and somewhere else said all evil is controleed by shaitan.
 
truemuslim said:
what? but when did iblis have babies??
why would there be more than one shaytans??









did Allah create them...purposely?



or issit that when shaitan was doin his crappy act of disobeyin allah, the shaytans "students" were behind him taking notes???


jazakumallah khair. :D
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I think they are referring to his workers and friends in human and jinn form

wasalaam

follow the link in this post >> http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134271072-shayateen-locked-up.html#post1003407
 
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truemuslim said:
well #2 makes sense...but wit questions.

yeh but somewhere i read said that shaitan controls ur nafs. and another place said with out shaitan thers no evil. and somewhere else said all evil is controleed by shaitan.
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Ultimately, you are responsibly for your actions. The shaaitan cannot force you to do an action, you know what is right or wrong - so when the devil whispers ideas in your head - you have the knowledge to know what is right and wrong and hence it is not the devil which you can blame for your actions, but your imaan.
 
truemuslim said:
yah but who kills my iman?
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Imaan is affected by mental as well as physical practices.

For example, if you desire worldly pleasures so much that your Islam is becoming deficient - when you were told to live as a stranger - you are going to be walking away from the path of Islam. When you do actions, which you know Allah has forbidden. Simply, it is just personal desires and lack of practice or care. It is why you will find, the practicing brother or sis, who's really making an effort to go to the mosque, learn about the deen, read Qur'an - stay with good people and away from bad people will seem to feel far more closer to Allah and have an energised imaan.

If you focus on the afterlife, rather than whining about your current life, you will see difference.
 
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yh nevermind thread closed all done. its one of dem things that never make sense so ima jus have to pretend it does. :D

jazakumallah khairan.
 
doorster said:
I think they are referring to his workers and friends in human and jinn form

wasalaam

follow the link in this post >> http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134271072-shayateen-locked-up.html#post1003407
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You have disabled ur PM's so I cant reply to yours...My reply was:

Wa'alaykum salam

SubhanAllah I had no idea!

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'un.

Its sad to hear but Qadrullah. May Allah (swt) forgive him his sins and grant him jannatul firdaws. Ameen.

WassalamuAlaykum
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Hoold up is ther anything that says that shaytan and nafs are different and tempted by two diff things? like nafs is by u and shaytan only tempts u to do something?? coz i read so many things that say SHAYTAN controls YOUR NAFS.

?

one more time ... :? :)
 
truemuslim said:
Hoold up is ther anything that says that shaytan and nafs are different and tempted by two diff things? like nafs is by u and shaytan only tempts u to do something?? coz i read so many things that say SHAYTAN controls YOUR NAFS.

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one more time ... :? :)
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It is your responsibility to control your nafs, it is not in the shaaitans control.
 
lol ok i know that. considering u've mentioned that about 50 times, i was asking if thers ...proof. :)
 
ah...thanks sis.
i thought yall were runnin away coz u aint got no source. jazakallah khair sis :) :)
 

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