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'Abd-al Latif
09-30-2008, 02:25 PM
The Romans and the Hour

Shaykh Saalih Aal ash-Shaykh

Reference: Legislated Regulations for the Muslims During Trials and Tribulations - Page 16

It has been authentically reported in Saheeh Muslim on the authority of al Layth ibn Sa’d that Musa ibn `Ulay said, that his father said that Al Mustawird al Qurashee said, while in the presence of `Amr ibn al `Aass: I heard the Messenger of Allaah, may the Salaat and Salaam be upon him, say:

"The hour will be established when the Romans are the most numerous of people."

`Umar ibn al `Aas said to him: "Look at what you are saying!"

Al Mustawrid replied: "And why shouldn’t I say what the Messenger of Allaah said."

Upon that, `Amr replied: "If it is as you say, it is because the Romans have four characteristics:

The First: They are a people with the most forbearance during Fitan.

The Second: The are the quickest of people to revive after a calamity."

He went on the mention another two characteristics and added a fifth.[1]

The people of knowledge commented that `Amr ibn al `Aas did not intend to praise the Romans, Christians and disbelievers by his statement, no. He wanted to clarify to the Muslims that the reason behind Romans remaining until the establishment of the Hour and the fact that they would be the most of people, is because when a calamity befalls them they are the most forbearing of people. They have enough forbearance to enable them to look into affairs and rectify them in order to avoid destruction and avoid the destruction of their allies. This is the summary of what Al Ubbee and as Sanoosee said in their explanation to Saheeh Muslim[2].

This is a pleasant indication, because the Prophet stated that the hour will not be established until Romans are the most numerous of people. Why?

`Amr ibn al `Aas said: "Because they have four attributes: the first, (and this is the one that concerns us) is that they are the most forbearing of people at times of Fitnah."

Meaning that when times change, or when Fitan arise, they are forbearing, they are not hasty, they do not anger, so that they can deliver themselves and their allies from Fitan. They know that if Fitan arise, they would reach them, and because of this characteristic, they would remain the most numerous of people until the hour is established.

This is why I am amazed at why we do not act upon this characteristic that that `Amr ibn al `Aass praised the Romans for having, while we are more rightful in practicing every good.



[1] The remainder of the Hadeeth: "...They are the most likely of people to return after escaping. They are the kindest of people to their poor, their weak and their orphaned, and a beautiful fifth characteristic; they are the furthest of people from oppressing their kings." Muslim

[Note: In another narration: "...the most informed of people during Fitnah..." which an Nawawee explained to mean that they are the most informed about the ways of rectifying and emerging from Fitnah.]

[2] Al Ubbee stated in explanation of this Hadeeth: "The truthfulness of this Hadeeth has come to pass, for they are indeed the most numerous of people with the exception of Jooj and Ma-jooj. They have populated the areas between Syria all the way to the end of Spain [i.e all of west Europe], and the religion of Christianity has expanded more than any other nation has ever expanded [Note: With the exception of Islam as is evident in these times].

These praiseworthy characteristics that `Amr ibn al `Aass described them with, it maybe that the Romans were adorned by them during his time when he interacted with them, as for today, they have the filthiest of characteristics which are in contradiction to his description... [Note: Al Ubbee lived during the 9th Islaamic century coinciding with the 16th Gregorian century, his comments are according to their state at his time, Shaykh Saaleh aal ash Shaykh’s comments are in light of the present day].

Translator: Nadir Ahmad, Abu Abdul-Waahid

Date Published: Saturday, 16 June 2007


تقوم الساعة والروم اكثر الناس
الشيخ صالح آل الشيخ

المرجع: الضوابط الشرعية لموقث المسلم من الفتن - ص16

الباب: القضايا المعاصرة

ثبت في ((صحيح مسلم)) من حديث الليث بن سعد عن موسى بن على عن ابيه: ان المستورد القرشى- وكان عنده عمرو بن العاص رضى اله عنه-،قال: سمعت رسول الله صلى الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: (( تقوم الساعة والروم اكثر الناس)). قال عمرو بن العاص له- للمستورد القرشي-: ابصر ما تقول! قال: وما لى ان لا اقول ما قاله رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ؟ قال : ان كان كذلك، فلان في الروم خصالاً اربعاً: الاولى: انهم احلم الناس عند الفتنة. الثانية: انهم اسرع الناس افاقة بعد مصيبة وعد الخصال الاربع وزاد عليها خامسة.

قال اهل العلم: هذا الكلاممن عمرو بن العاص لا يريد به ان يثنى به على الروم والنصارى المفرة، لا ! ولكن ليبين للمسلمين ان بقاء الروم وكونهم اكثر الناس الى ان تقوم الساعة لانهم عند حدوث الفتن هم احلم الناس، ففيهم من الحلم ما يجعلهم ينظرون الى الامور ويعالجونها ، لاجل ان لا تذهب انفسهم، ويذهب اصحابهم.

هذا محصل ما قاله السنوسى والاوبي في شرحهما على (( صحيح مسلم))

وهذا تنبيه لطيف ، لان النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بين انه لا تقوم الساعة حتى يكون الروم اكثر الناس، لماذا؟!

قال عمرو بن العاص: (( لان فيهم خصالاً اربعاً: الاولى( وهى التى تهمنا من تلك الحصال): ((انهم احلم الناس عند فتنه))، يعنى: اذا ظهر تغير الحال، وظهرت الفتن، فانهم يحلمون، ولا يعجلون، ولا يغضبون،ليقوا اصحابهم النصارى القتل ويقوهم الفتن، لانهم يعلمون ان الفتنة اذا ظهرت، فانها ستاتى عليهم، فلاجل تلك الخصلة فيهم بقوا اكثر الناس الى قيام الساعة.

ولهذا، فاننا نعجب ان لا ناخذ بهذه الخصلة التى حمد بها عمرو بن العاص الروم، وكانت فيهم تلك الخصلة الحميدة، ونحن اولى بكل خير عند من هم سوانا.

الحلم محمود في الامر كله.......، فانه يبصر عقل العاقلفي الفتنة بحلمه واناته ورفقه، فيدل على تعلقه وعلى بصره.

هذا هو الضابط الاول، وهذه هى القاعدة الاولى التى رعاها اهل السنة والجماعة عند ظهور الفتن، وعند تقلب الاحوال. وهذاه الضوابط والقواعد بعضها ضابط وبعضها قاعدة. دمجتها لاجل اشتراك البعض وع البعض الآخر في المعنى.

المترجم: أبو عبد الواحد نادر أحمد


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09-30-2008, 02:32 PM
Shaykh Saalih Aal ash-Shaykh :thumbs_up

JazakAllah khayr akhee

10-01-2008, 12:15 PM
subhan allah
may allah guide us to the best in sha allah
jazak allah khair brother

11-10-2008, 10:57 PM
That was very interesting. Thank you!

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