Wine in Jannah?

[Hamayun]

:sl:Brothers and Sisters,

My wife has been reading the Quran and Hadith and keeps asking me questions :exhausted

Her question is "Why are we allowed to drink alcohol in Jannah but not here?"

I could say to her "Its a test" but that seemed a bit shallow.

Can anyone help? She is Referring to:

Chapter 47: Verse 15

A similitude of the Garden which those who keep their duty (to Allah) are promised: Therein are rivers of water unpolluted, and rivers of milk whereof the flavour changeth not, and rivers of wine delicious to the drinkers, and rivers of clear-run honey; therein for them is every kind of fruit, with pardon from their Lord. (Are those who enjoy all this) like those who are immortal in the Fire and are given boiling water to drink so that it teareth their bowels?

:w:

[Hasan Ali]

because its halal there and also doesnt make your drunk like here

[Güven]

Well Its Just MY view But We musnt Compare jannah with this earthly life
What I believe is that things Haram here , they will be halal there and even better ,
Wich are filty here is clean there and even better, do you know what I mean ?

But thats my view :)

but Allahu Alim , Allah Knows BEST!

:w:

[Hamayun]

Hassan Ali: I did tell her that but she asked why it is called wine if its not alcohol. Is it non-alcoholic wine? lol. :D Bless her!

Thanks Guven. I told her that since we wont have the same physical composition maybe the wine won't affect us in the same way.

But yes. Allah knows best :)

Jazakallah Khayran

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[- Qatada -]

asalaam alaikum warahmatulah wabarakatuh



basically, tell her that this life is a mixture of bad and good. you'll see the description of wine in the qur'an which doesn't intoxicate, it doesn't make you drunk or out of control, it doesn't give you a hangover - like the alcohol wine/drinks do in this world etc.

the afterlife is not a mixture of good or bad, but just pure good reward or pure evil punishment [paradise or hell].


paradise is all that the heart and soul desires, there are no limits, and there is no harm in what the people of paradise get and do.

whatever the people of hell experience and taste, they never get any goodness from, ie. even the food they eat does not fulfill their hunger, and has such an evil taste i.e. waste from bodily wounds, boiling hot water etc.



Muslims are tested for their patience in this life and sincerety to Allah. We are given a mixture of bad and good to test our sincerety to Him, to give us a slight taste of some good/bad etc. and whatever He forbids us for our own good, and whatever He invites us to do is for a greater good.


you can download the detailed hereafter series [al akhirah] by imam anwar al awlaki here inshaAllah;
http://hoor-al-ayn.com/anwar-al-awlaki.html

[Hasan Ali]

all i know in jannah there is a river of milk honey and wine

[iamdaguy]

I am not quite sure and might make mistake so please forgive me if I give the wrong info. But I heard the reason alcohol was prohibited (it was allowed before) because muslims couldn't perform their prayers probably, therefore, Allah , SHW, ordered alcohol to be avioded. Hence, haram.

Is it that in Jannah (heaven), humans are no longer needed to pray therefore can consume alcohol? I am not sure but may be. I have no source to back my writtens so you guys have no reason to believe. ;)

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:salamext:

Wine in Jannah does not intoxicate, wine in this world does.

[Hamayun]

Jazakallah Khayran :)

It is clear now. I appreciate all the answers.

[doorster]

:sl:

I am not quite sure and might make mistake so please forgive me if I give the wrong info. But I heard the reason alcohol was prohibited (it was allowed before) because Muslims couldn't perform their prayers probably, therefore, Allah , SHW, ordered alcohol to be avoided. Hence, haram.

I, too, have heard (and read) that it was halal to previous ummats but did not want to interrupt the flow of the thread for fear of bringing down an avalanche of google pastings upon meself

dare I say they had only access to earthly brewers/distillers etc

Is it that in Jannah (heaven), humans are no longer needed to pray therefore can consume alcohol? I am not sure but may be. I have no source to back my writtens so you guys have no reason to believe. ;)

sorry, dont understand this part

:w:

Why Wine Is Not forbidden in Paradise?

[iamdaguy]

:sl:I, too, have heard (and read) that it was halal to previous ummats but did not want to interrupt the flow of the thread for fear of bringing down an avalanche of google pastings upon meself

dare I say they had only access to earthly brewers/distillers etc
sorry, dont understand this part

:w:

It was bit off topic question. What I meant is Are muslims required to perform prayers even in heaven? If no then may be that is why alcohol is allowed. But I am just manupilating this so could be wrong.

Wine in Jannah does not intoxicate, wine in this world does.

Jazakallah Khayran

[SixTen]

Lets take the hypothetical situation you can get drunk in Jannah. Firstly, you can't harm in Jannah. Alcohol is prohibited in this life, because it not only causes alot of harm to you, it can potentially lead you to harm others due to it. I think that makes any further questions unneccessary.

[kwolney01]

I think it says some where else in the Quran when its talking about wine that it will have all of the alcohol out of it. So it would not make the person "drunk", if you get what I'm trying to say.

[Hamayun]

It was bit off topic question. What I meant is Are muslims required to perform prayers even in heaven? If no then may be that is why alcohol is allowed. But I am just manupilating this so could be wrong.

Jazakallah Khayran

Very interesting question Brother. Does anyone know? Will we have to perform Salaat in Jannah?

[Güven]

No you dont HAVE to perform salah in jannah but if you want you can , wouldnt be nice when you can perform salah with Prophet Muhammed ( Sallallahu aleyhi wa sallam ) :statisfie

But I think you would be automatically thinkin( thanking, praising etc.) of Allah(swt) in Jannah, so i think it wont be obligatory for us like in this world :)


I know I dont have resources but ive heard this in some lectures :D


Soo Allah Knows BEST!


:w:

[------]

Very interesting question Brother. Does anyone know? Will we have to perform Salaat in Jannah?

:salamext:


According to scholars, we do not. I have heard in various lectures [but don't have the link to them right now], that Salah was to increase our good deeds in this world, to gain reward and to work for the Hereafter.


When we enter Jannah, we will indulge in relaxation and pleasures and endless delights [SubhaanAllaah, may Allaah make us one of them, Ameen]. But, if you wish, you could pray Salah if you wanted, although we would get no reward for it.


And Allaah Knows best.

[josein]

off topic:

My christian friend told me the Jesus(as) drank wine. He said its in the bible.

I know that Jesus(as) turned water in to wine with the permission of ALLAH(swt) Can anybody explain this to me?

Thank You

[S_87]

imo the whole point boils down to not what kind of wine will be drank but what is the reason for wine being forbidden on earth?
and that is answered:

They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider
2:219

so the whole thing is not the wine will be alchoholic or not, after all there will be hoors for men in jannah, but that doesnt make zina or earth halal or desire in jannah for women different. Jannah is a place of pleasure without the bad and harm pleasures can cause on earth

[- Qatada -]

off topic:

My christian friend told me the Jesus(as) drank wine. He said its in the bible.

I know that Jesus(as) turned water in to wine with the permission of ALLAH(swt) Can anybody explain this to me?

Thank You

:salamext:


Wine may have been permissible at the law of Prophet Jesus, but the final law which all of mankind has to accept and follow to succeed is what was revealed to Allah's final Messenger, Muhammad (sal Allah alaihi wasalam.) It's haraam to drink alcohol and intoxicants in the law revealed to him, so we are not allowed to now.

[fouzie]

:sl:
in Jannah there is no haraam thing.

You can't compare this world with Jannah.

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[Muslim Woman]

Rivers of wine in heavens


Question : In Surah Muhammad it is described ‘in heaven there will be rivers of wine which we can enjoy drinking from it’. I just found this to be contradicting in the fact we can’t drink wine here

.....Wine in Paradise is dissimilar to wine in this life. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning):


There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw (dirty, false, evil vague talk between them), and free from sin (because it will be legal for them to drink).[52:23].



Allah also Says (interpretation of meaning): White, delicious to the drinkers, Neither they will have Ghoul (any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, a sin, etc.) from that, nor will they suffer intoxication there from.[37:46-47].
Allah Says (interpretation of meaning):

They will be served by immortal boys, With cups, and jugs, and a glass from the flowing wine, Wherefrom they will get neither any aching of the head, nor any intoxication.[56:17-19].



Al Qurtubi said while interpreting the Ayah: {….and free from sin (because it will be legal for them to drink).} that 'It means they (the dwellers of Paradise) do not say words nor do they indulge in delirium or say indecent terms as human beings in such a state do in this life.'


Ibn Abbas (Radiya Allahu Anhu) said:

'The word “Laghw” in the verse means false talk, while the word Ta’theem means lies.'


Mujahid said: 'This verse means they do not insult one another or commit sins.'
Qatada said: 'Evil of wine comes from Satan and Allah honoured the wine of Paradise from being infected by the filthiness and harm of the wine in this world, as stated earlier (in other verses).


The wine of Paradise does not cause headaches or stomach aches and does not cause the loss of right reasoning. And finally it does not drive people to say bad things….'
Allah also informed of its beautiful appearance and taste. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning):


White, delicious to the drinkers, Neither they will have Ghoul (any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, a sin, etc.) from that, nor will they suffer intoxication there from.


Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): ….nor will they suffer intoxication there from.[37:47] this means they do not lose consciousness Ibn Abbas said:


'There are four characteristics of wine: ‘drunkenness, headache, vomiting and urinating. Allah mentioned the wine of Paradise and He freed it from such characteristics.'

Allah knows best.

http://islamweb.net/ver2/fatwa/ShowF...Option=FatwaId

[Woodrow]

:w:

Why are we permitted to drink wine in Jannah but not on earth? Because Allaah(swt) has said so.

Do we rally need to know more? Is it not sufficient to know that Allaah(swt) has ordered that to be? The only question we need ask is if that is what Allaah(swt), if we honestly believe he did so, we have no need to know more.

Us humans are very funny creatures. We will immediately do what family and friends tell us to do or not do, without question; and insist on learning every detail of why Allaah(swt) tells us to do something. Are we seeking proof that Allaah(swt) exists or are we looking for a loophole to disobey?

[militant g-hard]

the quran mentions that there will be wine but it will not have alcohol in it, it will not make you drunk

[Zamtsa]

You may tell your wife that Rasulullah in many Hadits said "Whoever drink alcohol in dunya won't drink it in akhirat."

Jannah has 4 rivers and sea according to hadits: honey, milk, water, and Khamar (non toxicate).

Why being call Khamr? Because it got good effect as the Khamar of this world.

Ibn Abbas Radhiyallahu 'Anhu said "In Jannah, everything in there are the same with things of this world only by name."

Rasulullah said "In Jannah people aren't allowed to make another people sad."

Rasulullah said "In Jannah people are being given Ilham to do Dzikr as they breathe." They will do Dzikr automaticly, not doing Shalat.
Moreover, Rasulullah when doing Isra' Mi'raj said that he saw Muusa 'Alaihi Salaam doing Shalat inside Qubur, this was done by a Prophet in Qubur, not in Jannah, in there the denizens of Jannah will not do Shalat, but they will do Dzikr.

Source: Hadiil Arwah by Ibn Q.Al Jauziyyah, book of syaikh Ali bin Hasan Al Halabi about Jannah and Naar, and book of Husain bin Audah Al Awayisyah.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.

[wth1257]

From what I have seen in the Qur’an the consumption of wine is not intrinsically evil but only contextually so. The Qur’an makes reference to the pervading sin in the world and the way consuming wine in this life would lead to sin. So I think any apparent contradiction in forbidding wine in this life and permitting in the next one simply arises from a misunderstanding of why wine is prohibited in this life in the first place. Secondly, some scholars have noted the symbolic e dimension in the description of heaven. From this one can derive a mystical interpretation of wine. The Sufis have used wine as a symbol for spiritual ecstasy for many years and this could be what the Qur’an is referring to
That’s how I understand it anyway.

[Zamtsa]

We all Muslims will found spiritual delight even Karamah Rasulullah said (Mukhtashar Al 'Uluw of Adz Dzahabi by syaikh Nashir Al Albaani) by looking to Allahu Ta'ala.

In Jannah there will be 4 rivers come from 4 seas: water, wine, milk and honey, and the Salsabila water and Kafur.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.

[^[AnKaBooT]^]

sura at tur

verse number i dont know but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WENtl...eature=related

"They will pass around to each other a cup of wine free of frivolity and sin".

[Silver]

Why are we permitted to drink wine in Jannah but not on earth? Because Allaah(swt) has said so.

Do we rally need to know more? Is it not sufficient to know that Allaah(swt) has ordered that to be? The only question we need ask is if that is what Allaah(swt), if we honestly believe he did so, we have no need to know more.

Us humans are very funny creatures. We will immediately do what family and friends tell us to do or not do, without question; and insist on learning every detail of why Allaah(swt) tells us to do something. Are we seeking proof that Allaah(swt) exists or are we looking for a loophole to disobey?

Yes, u r absolutely right.

God permitted wine in heaven and on earth it is haram. I never thought of looking for reasons. Allah knows best and we can never know everything. I think that if we insist on seeking answers to every religious detail, we will eventually abandon our religion. We cannot find answers to everything, only Allah has all the answers.

[Dram]

Asalam O Alikum brothers and sisters as far as i know there is sura or prophet Muhammed (May God’s Peace be Upon Him) said:
You will drink wine there from which you wont loose your mind. Didnt quote that since i translated it from my language and the exact same word werent used. Those words made me think that alcohol is prohibited because when you get drunk you dont have complete power over the things you do and start doing bad things.