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Confused0122
12-08-2008, 10:18 PM
Salam.
Why can men wear cologne while women cannot wear perfume? I've heard that it's because it attracts the opposite sex but it's the same for men too isn't it? Also, what is wrong with spraying on a little perfume if your intention is pure? Maybe you don't want to smell bad after sweating during a hot day at work or at some function.. Nowadays, I don't think a man will rape a woman if she has perfumeon either.. Nobody can really provide the reason as to why women cannot wear perfume and how the prophet s.a.w. said that a woman who wears perfuem will not even SMELL jannah.. Why is this such a serious matter? Thank you
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Banu_Hashim
12-08-2008, 10:24 PM
Oh right... I didn't know that women couldn't wear pefume. And is that hadith in relation to tight fitting clothes as well?... or maybe I'm thinking of a different one.

Well, I suppose it's attracts more in the case of women than in men, I dunno. Ah... sorry I can't be much help :p. I'm not sure from a Islamic perspective. :S
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TrueStranger
12-08-2008, 11:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Confused0122
Salam.
Why can men wear cologne while women cannot wear perfume? I've heard that it's because it attracts the opposite sex but it's the same for men too isn't it? Also, what is wrong with spraying on a little perfume if your intention is pure? Maybe you don't want to smell bad after sweating during a hot day at work or at some function.. Nowadays, I don't think a man will rape a woman if she has perfumeon either.. Nobody can really provide the reason as to why women cannot wear perfume and how the prophet s.a.w. said that a woman who wears perfuem will not even SMELL jannah.. Why is this such a serious matter? Thank you
:sl:

“Verily, the best of perfume for men is that which is strong in smell and light in colour, and the best of perfume for women is that which is strong in colour and light in smell.” (Tirmidhi, Sahih)
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MSalman
12-08-2008, 11:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Confused0122
Salam.
Why can men wear cologne while women cannot wear perfume? I've heard that it's because it attracts the opposite sex but it's the same for men too isn't it? Also, what is wrong with spraying on a little perfume if your intention is pure? Maybe you don't want to smell bad after sweating during a hot day at work or at some function.. Nowadays, I don't think a man will rape a woman if she has perfumeon either.. Nobody can really provide the reason as to why women cannot wear perfume and how the prophet s.a.w. said that a woman who wears perfuem will not even SMELL jannah.. Why is this such a serious matter? Thank you
Wa'alaykum As-Salam

Bismillah Ar-Rahmaan Ar-Raheem

sister, women can wear perfume, it comes under the heading of beautifying herself for her husband; however, she shouldn't wear it and go out because it is most likely that a non-mehrem would be able to smell it and that's forbidden. Why women aren't allowed but men are allowed, the reason is simple: 1) the Sharee'ah rule and 2) the genders' nature.

Wallahu A'lam
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Confused0122
12-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Thank you.. What exactly do you mean by gender nature.. Aren't both men and women attracted to each other..
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Confused0122
12-09-2008, 10:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TrueStranger
:sl:

“Verily, the best of perfume for men is that which is strong in smell and light in colour, and the best of perfume for women is that which is strong in colour and light in smell.” (Tirmidhi, Sahih)
Thank you, where did you find that though? Also, what exactly is meant by color?
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جوري
12-09-2008, 10:47 PM
I have over 173 bottles of perfume.. and I wear a good eight or ten of them-- love collecting perfume.. but not good to wear them so you attract people (most of the time in a negative way :lol:.. and my experience really is whether man or woman, you don't want to kill those brothers and sisters in humanity plagued with allergies and COPD and other breathing problems.. wear it so only you'll know or someone so close to you, they'd better have a permit

Allah swt knows best

:w:
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chacha_jalebi
12-09-2008, 11:57 PM
mashallah some nice answers here solve the problem :D

another simple answer would be because men tend to stink more then women :p
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TrueStranger
12-10-2008, 01:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Confused0122
Thank you, where did you find that though? Also, what exactly is meant by color?
http://www.sunnahonline.com/library/...ation/0109.htm

Sorry sis i don't know what exactly color means :blind: Do tell me thou if you find out :D
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syilla
12-10-2008, 01:37 AM
u know...sometimes women can get really smelly...and it'll kill others. you won't know...until someone tell you so. but who will have the guts to tell you. ermm.... :blind:
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TrueStranger
12-10-2008, 01:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by syilla
u know...sometimes women can get really smelly...and it'll kill others. you won't know...until someone tell you so. but who will have the guts to tell you. ermm.... :blind:
I think coconut lime body wash will do the work. Hopefully, it isn't haraam. Are lotions that have a strong smell haraam too?
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جوري
12-10-2008, 02:03 AM
I believe I grow up with the adage 'an'nathafah min al'iman' = cleanliness is a part of faith.. so long as one doesn't wear pungent perfumes that can be smelt by the weirdo at the end of the bus.. I think we should all collectivity, shower, shampoo, use deodorant and moisturize ..

and Allah swt knows best

:w:
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islamirama
12-10-2008, 02:51 AM
When a woman wears perfume, the ruling depends on the situation:



1 –
Using perfume for the husband. This is mustahabb and recommended, because it is part of treating him kindly, and it helps to increase love between the spouses, when each of them pays attention to what the other likes.



Al-Mannaawi said in Fayd al-Qadeer (3/190):

As for putting on perfume and adorning herself for her husband, it is required and is something that is liked. One of the wise men said: For a woman to adorn herself and put on perfume for her husband is one of the strongest causes of love and affection between them, and wards off dislike and disdain, because the eye is the pioneer of the heart; if the eye looks at something attractive, the message will reach his heart and love will be created, but if it looks at something ugly or that it does not like of outfits or garments, that that message will reach the heart and dislike and disdain will be created. Hence the advice that Arab women gave to one another was: Beware of letting your husband see anything that does not please him or letting him smell anything from you that he finds off-putting. End quote.



2 –
Putting on perfume and going out with the aim of letting non-mahram men smell it. This is haraam, and is a major sin.



It was narrated from Abu Moosa (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a woman puts on perfume and passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, then she is such and such,” and he spoke sternly - meaning an adulteress. Narrated by Abu Dawood (4173) and al-Tirmidhi (2786); classed as saheeh by Ibn Daqeeq al-Eid in al-Iqtiraah (126) and by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.



al-Mannaawi said in Fayd al-Qadeer (1/355):
“She is an adulteress” means: because of that she is exposed to zina, and implementing the means that lead to it and calling those who seek it. Hence she is called an adulteress in a metaphorical sense, because desire may prevail and real zina may take place. Her passing by men is likened to her sitting in their path so that they pass by her. End quote.



3 –
If she puts on perfume and goes out, and thinks it most likely that she will pass by a group in which there will be men who will smell her perfume and fragrance, this is also haraam, even if she does not intend to tempt men and that is not her aim, because this action is a fitnah (temptation) in and of itself. There is also an indication in sharee’ah that it is haraam and not allowed.



Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”
[al-Noor 24:31]



So women are forbidden to show their adornments to non-mahram men, and perfume is undoubtedly one of the woman’s adornments, so it is included in this prohibition.
And it was narrated that Zaynab, the wife of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood, said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to us: “If one of you attends the mosque, let her not put on perfume.” Narrated by Muslim (443).



If the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade women to go out to the mosque wearing perfume, because men will usually smell some of the fragrance because of close proximity and there being no barrier between men and woman, then it is more likely that women are not allowed to go out to the marketplace and gatherings wearing perfume, although it is not regarded as a major sin, rather it is something that is clearly haraam.



Ibn Hajar al-Haytami said in al-Zawaajir ‘an Iqtiraab al-Kabaa’ir (2/71-72):
The ahaadeeth which count it as a major sin should be interpreted as meaning that this applies if the fitnah is certainly there; when there is merely the fear of fitnah, then it is makrooh, or when she thinks it will cause fitnah then it is haraam but is not a major sin, as is obvious. End quote.



See also the answer to question no. 7850



4 –
When she puts on perfume and thinks it most likely that her fragrance will not reach people and that men will not smell any of it, such as if she is going out in her husband’s car on a trip to an isolated place, or to visit her family, or she is going out in her husband’s car to a gathering for women only, or she is going to the mosque in the car and she is going to get out at the entrance to the prayer-hall that is for women only and is completely separate from the men, then she is going to come straight back in the car without walking in the street, and other such situations where the woman does not expect to pass through the streets and her aim in putting on perfume is to keep herself clean in general as enjoined by sharee’ah. In that case there is nothing wrong with her using perfume, because the reason for the prohibition, which is that the fragrance might reach other men, does not apply.
The evidence for that is as follows:



(i) The apparent reason for the prohibition in the evidence quoted above does not apply in this case, so there is no fitnah and there is no provocation of desire.


(ii) In Sunnah there is an indication that the womenfolk of the Sahaabah used to use perfume when they thought it most likely that it would not be smelt by men.



It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: We used to go out with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to Makkah, and we would apply perfume to our foreheads when entering ihraam, then if one of us sweated it would run down her face, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would see it but he would not rebuke her.



Narrated by Abu Dawood (1830) and classed as hasan by al-Nawawi in al-Majmoo’ (7/219) and as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.



This is to be understood in the light of the conditions that were known in earlier times, when the caravan of women was separate from that of men, or the woman would be in her howdah and did not mix with men or pass by the places where they were.
Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (10/40):



It is permissible for her to apply perfume if she is going out to a place of women and is not going to pass by men in the street. End quote.



It says in Jalasaat Ramadaaniyyah (1415/al-Majlis al-Khaamis/Majmoo’at As’ilah tuhimm al-Usrah) by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him):



But if the woman is going to ride in the car and her fragrance will only be apparent to those before whom she may show the fragrance, and she will exit the car and go straight to her workplace without there being any men around her, then there is nothing wrong with it, because there is nothing haraam involved. When she is in her car it is as if she is in her house. But if she is going to pass by men then it is not permissible for her to wear perfume. End quote.



If an emergency arises in which some men happen to smell the perfume of this woman, because of a car accident, for example, or a sudden illness because of which she is taken to the hospital and the like, then this is something that is forgiven, in sha Allah, because Allaah does not burden any soul beyond its scope and the shar’i ruling is to be followed in cases where one has the choice, not in cases of necessity.



And Allaah knows best.

http://islamqa.com/en/ref/102329
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MSalman
12-10-2008, 08:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Confused0122
Aren't both men and women attracted to each other..
yes but men pay more attention to women than vice versa; this is the general nature. we all know that the Sharee'ah laws in regard to genders are based on our nature and more practical. Wallahu A'lam
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Confused0122
12-14-2008, 10:00 PM
Thank you all.
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YusufNoor
12-15-2008, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Confused0122
Salam.
Why can men wear cologne while women cannot wear perfume? I've heard that it's because it attracts the opposite sex but it's the same for men too isn't it? Also, what is wrong with spraying on a little perfume if your intention is pure? Maybe you don't want to smell bad after sweating during a hot day at work or at some function.. Nowadays, I don't think a man will rape a woman if she has perfumeon either.. Nobody can really provide the reason as to why women cannot wear perfume and how the prophet s.a.w. said that a woman who wears perfuem will not even SMELL jannah.. Why is this such a serious matter? Thank you
:sl:

men are supposed to pray in Jammaat at the Masjid, hundreds of men packed elbow to elbow. therefore, cleanliness and a little cologne IS APPROPRIATE!
:)

:w:
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MO783
12-15-2008, 02:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamiclife
yes but men pay more attention to women than vice versa; this is the general nature. we all know that the Sharee'ah laws in regard to genders are based on our nature and more practical. Wallahu A'lam
:sl:

True
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Yanal
12-23-2008, 06:40 PM
:sl:
Yes perfume attracts bad attention that's why it's not allowed.
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Wyatt
01-12-2009, 10:10 PM
Maybe it has something to do with the human instinct to tell by the natural smell of their partners whether or not they are good for reproduction or not, for which females may be a lot more crucial because they would be the ones actually giving birth.

That is, if it is in fact true that men may wear cologne and women may not wear fragrances to attract sexually because it can be misleading in means of human reproduction.
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