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Thinker
12-27-2008, 02:14 PM
The (Muslim) author of the article in the below link below sets out some startling statistic showing failure of the Muslim world to achieve what the Jews and the ‘west’ have achieved suggesting as a possible reason that Muslims “could be powerless and backward in their thinking and approach to life, because they think this life is temporary and does not deserve their full attention”. Is he correct; are Muslims spending too much time and energy planning for the next life at a cost of failing to achieve in this life?


http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/14815
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Whatsthepoint
12-27-2008, 02:46 PM
This is off topic, but what strikes me as interesting is that non-Israeli Jews, mostly ones living in Europe and America especially prior to WWII seem to have been much more creative, inventive etc than modern Israelis, judging from the number of breakthroughs they made.
Modern American Jews alone are more successful than then entire state of Israel.
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- Qatada -
12-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Thinker
The (Muslim) author of the article in the below link below sets out some startling statistic showing failure of the Muslim world to achieve what the Jews and the ‘west’ have achieved suggesting as a possible reason that Muslims “could be powerless and backward in their thinking and approach to life, because they think this life is temporary and does not deserve their full attention”. Is he correct; are Muslims spending too much time and energy planning for the next life at a cost of failing to achieve in this life?


http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/14815

He isn't correct because the whole reasons the muslims are in this mess is because we're not following our religion, nor are the majority striving for the next life.

If we were, then we would be successful - like the earlier muslims who achieved way more while they were fewer in number. A clear example of this is the companions of Prophet Muhammad who were a minority in the world, who achieved so much while their whole aim being in life to strive for the hereafter.


By striving for the next life - thats when you're willing to sacrifice and give up what is in this world - even if it means your own life and wealth - for Allah's cause. This then refutes the claim that striving for the next life makes you more lazy in regard to this life - since its the total opposite.



Peace.
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anatolian
12-27-2008, 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
This is off topic, but what strikes me as interesting is that non-Israeli Jews, mostly ones living in Europe and America especially prior to WWII seem to have been much more creative, inventive etc than modern Israelis, judging from the number of breakthroughs they made.
Modern American Jews alone are more successful than then entire state of Israel.
They are busy with their state terrorism.
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Whatsthepoint
12-27-2008, 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by anatolian
They are busy with their state terrorism.
Most Israelis will spent 2 - 3 years in the military and that's it.
The state spends a lot on education, science, technology etc, probably more than the US, percentage wise.
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anatolian
12-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Most Israelis will spent 2 - 3 years in the military and that's it.
The state spends a lot on education, science, technology etc, probably more than the US, percentage wise.
Actually I also wonder the reasons behind this situation.These are some opiinions of mine...It's not only 2 years spent in military but they always live in the feeling of danger.This effects their life view and standarts.They spend their money in war technology and biotechnology by which they can produce vagetables without much water..etc.These are some extra efforts they need to spend while living in Israel.

And you compare 9 million Jews in America to 3.5 million ones in Israel.Both are capitalist countries in which only a group of peope can make good business and earn good money and in the 300 million America most of these 9 milion Jews are in this group while most of the 3.5 milion Israel have to be standart/modarate and even poor people.It's becuse of capitalism.
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Whatsthepoint
12-27-2008, 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by anatolian
Actually I also wonder the reasons behind this situation.These are some opiinions of mine...It's not only 2 years spent in military but they always live in the feeling of danger.This effects their life view and standarts.They spend their money in war technology and biotechnology by which they can produce vagetables without much water..etc.These are some extra efforts they need to spend while living in Israel.

And you compare 9 million Jews in America to 3.5 million ones in Israel.Both are capitalist countries in which only a group of peope can make good business and earn good money and in the 300 million America most of these 9 milion Jews are in this group while most of the 3.5 milion Israel have to be standart/modarate and even poor people.It's becuse of capitalism.
Yep, thats what I thought too.
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