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Daffodil
01-14-2009, 12:39 AM
If there was a parenting section then Id have posted this on there but I cant seem to find one so Ill post it in the family section if thats ok.

My son is nearly 2 and a half and I know I should be potty training him but its hard. I need some help. I bought potties and a kids toilet seat ages ago and my son doesnt sit on them, he gets up straight away. I tried substituting his nappy with proper pants and kept telling him to tell me if he wanted a wee and tried to get him to sit on the potty but he would do a wee. Then I saw a wet patch so had to get him washed up and changed. I still left the nappy off but again he weed himself so I gave up and he went straight back into his nappy. So the whole ordeal lasted around 2 hours.

He didnt even tell me that he had weed.

Ive heard loads of peoples methods but I dont know what to go for. I know I should probably stick with what I was doing before but its hard if youve got to juggle a baby as well as other things. I dont want wee all over my carpet and settees.

What did you do with your kids and what age did you start them?
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S_87
01-14-2009, 02:04 PM
i dont have kids but played a part in potty training 3 nephews and a niece so here goes. With the last nephew i can remember he would always wee in his pants or tell last minute. First we had him getting used to going to the toilet when he wanted to do other stuff (with training pant) -so got him used to actually going to the toilet and then for weeing, well that was trouble! but in the end he decided HE wanted to go because he was a 'big boy' and so after putting on normal pants we had to ask him like every hour so that he didnt forget and to get him used to it. He still makes mistakes but after a couple of weeks he himself got into the habit of saying 'i want to wee'
oh and a potty didnt work for any of them-they hated it, just a normal toilet seat
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MO783
01-14-2009, 02:40 PM
lol
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crayon
01-14-2009, 03:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
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My son is nearly 2 and a half

He didnt even tell me that he had weed.
I'm sorry that I have nothing constructive to add to this thread, but I just had to say this...
I tend to scan a post before actually reading it.. And went I was scanning yours, the only words I seemed to see were "my son is 2" and "he didn't tell me he had weed".

I spent a whole minute wondering why on earth a 2 year old boy would have weed (marijuana), and wondering what the world had come to...:p

Anyway, good luck with your son inshallah!
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ajnabee
01-14-2009, 06:42 PM
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eeeeeek i love potty training!

i just gonna copy/paste what i wrote on ummah forum...

ok my tips...

:D take ur boy shopping for new pants and let him choose what he would like.
its exciting choosing n wearing spiderman or postman pat pants! :statisfie

:D make potty time fun! read books, sing songs, let them play with his favourite toy, etc.

:D take him potty every 20-30 mins when starting to potty train, even if he says he dont want to, try to entice him somehow.

:D rewards and encouragement and praise is way important when potty training, give him stickers, priveleges, etc when he does something on the potty. maybe something less special for simply SITTING on the potty.

:D gettin the poo poo sorted will take longer than the wee so dont worry too much if he poos his pants. the important thing u need to remember is NOT to make a big deal out of his accidents. accidents are inevitable, u mustn't forget that but the worst thing u can do is get angry because that will only put him off potty training. so just say "its ok sweety, its just an accident, it doesnt matter, next time we'll sit on the potty yeah?"

:D whatever u do, DONT use pull ups or whatever coz they are rubbish, they feel just like nappies so he wont notice the difference when he wees himself, hopefully, the feeling of wet trousers will make him realise that he would be better off going to the potty.

:D summer time is ideal time to potty train coz then u can let him go around without trousers so less mess to clean up if he has any accidents.

:D the important thing to remember is to let it go if he isnt ready. say u've tried for about 2 weeks but he still aint got the hang of it, just try again in a couple of months. for most children, it all clicks when they're just coming up to 2 and a half years so if he's only just turned two, dont rush it. :)

i think thats all for now.

toodle pips!
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Daffodil
01-14-2009, 10:02 PM
Im concerned about his age though. How old were your kids when they stopped the nappy?
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glo
01-14-2009, 10:16 PM
Ajnabee has given some great advice!

I am trying to think how old my children were, when they were potty trained.
I think my daughter got the idea pretty quickly, but my son took longer. He was a winter baby, and I remember him spending much time with a bare bottom in the summer months ... so he must have been around 2-and-a-half then too. (It actually took him a long time to be reliably dry - especially at night)

I seem to remember reading somewhere that boys for some (probably anatomical) reasons tend to take longer with toilet training.

I would advise you not to worry about it, and to stay relaxed about the whole thing.
Like Ajnabee said, it will be easier in the summer. (Less clothes to wash, easier to dry, etc)

Also bear in mind that having a new baby in the house may add some stress for your little man, and that he may not always feel like being a 'big boy'.

Perhaps just give the whole thing a rest, and give it another try in a couple of months. He will learn it when he is ready. Fear not!

Here is a BBC website I found. Perhapw it is helpful.

Salaam :)
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S_87
01-14-2009, 10:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
Im concerned about his age though. How old were your kids when they stopped the nappy?
2 and a half is a good age, its not at all young.
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Daffodil
01-14-2009, 11:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
2 and a half is a good age, its not at all young.
My worry is that hes too old, and that he should already be potty trained by now.

Theres alot of pressure I feel from other people because they seem to make you feel like a crap parent if your aint potty trained at a certain age.

The thing is my son absolutly loves water and any chance hell get hell play with it either by emptying his cup out or getting my glass or something and gets his clothes wet ALL THE TIME. So I think if he wets himself its not going to feel any different for him because hes used to being wet as daft as that sounds.

Also because hes a boy its difficult to get him to understand that hes got to point his boy bit downwards as Islamically boys/men arent allowed to pee standing up. I think Ill give it a go in a couple of months. My poor little lad. Its not going to be easy for any of us.
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Woodrow
01-15-2009, 12:09 AM
I believe we spend too much effort with the idea of potty training. We as parents do not potty train kids. they train us as to what the signs are, that they need to go. Once we learn the specific signs, we get them to the potty on time and surprise of surprises, the child is potty trained, but in reality it is the parent that was trained by the child.

Believe it or not kids of any age do not enjoy walking around in messy nappies, they spend considerable time in trying to communicate to us that they need to go. It is by careful observation we learn the body language of the child.
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Daffodil
01-15-2009, 12:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
I believe we spend too much effort with the idea of potty training. We as parents do not potty train kids. they train us as to what the signs are, that they need to go. Once we learn the specific signs, we get them to the potty on time and surprise of surprises, the child is potty trained, but in reality it is the parent that was trained by the child.

Believe it or not kids of any age do not enjoy walking around in messy nappies, they spend considerable time in trying to communicate to us that they need to go. It is by careful observation we learn the body language of the child.
I have to disagree its not like that at all! My boy doesnt give any signs whatsoever that hes doing a wee! And how would he know that he doesnt like being in a messy nappy because he doesnt know other wise?

He sometimes tells us hes done a poo and walks around funny but he just refuses to sit on the potty or on the loo.
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Woodrow
01-15-2009, 12:46 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
I have to disagree its not like that at all! My boy doesnt give any signs whatsoever that hes doing a wee! And how would he know that he doesnt like being in a messy nappy because he doesnt know other wise?

He sometimes tells us hes done a poo and walks around funny but he just refuses to sit on the potty or on the loo.
Well first of all do not think you are doing anything wrong as a parent. There is no specific age a child will learn to use the potty. We put too much social emphasis on it as a rite of passage and want to set a specific age at which a child should do some things.

Potty training is one of these areas. In spite of what we do or fail to do each child will become potty changed at the age appropriate for them.

As parents all we can do is keep an eye open for tell-tale signs. It is true some children will not give any signs. In that case the best thing is to set 4 to 6 specific times each day to place the child on the potty. It is important to keep those specific times daily. Before long you should be able to notice a pattern (not an exact pattern, but an estimate) as to what is the most probable time the child will use the potty. Use that as a guide to be certain the child is on the potty at that time. Eventually the child will make the association between the potty and what it is for.

Yes, it is frustrating, but do not blame yourself and do not try to compare to other children. Potty training does not mean good or bad parenting. Each child is unique.

I should mention that often extremely intelligent children do not become potty trained until an older age. It seems they are too involved with discovering the world then to worry about such issues.
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Yanal
01-15-2009, 12:57 AM
I am not goingto get married for good 10-15 more years but recently I just pottytrained my little brother with my mother and father. First start off with no diapers in the morning, afternoon and evening. After dusk put the diaper on because litle babies tend to pee at night. After a few weeks of that, try to slowly get rid of diapers. Your son will first cry but will get use to it. Don't patronize him much and slowly act normal and pretend everything is ok. Don't ask your son if he wants to go pee every 5 minutes. Tell him at the start " If you wanna go pee tell me, good baby" Give him a treat after a while to thank your son for corperating with you im this matter:) Hope my post works. Crayon I think we all have Mistakes and wee and weed only have one wording difference, not a biggy just edit your post sister daffodil.
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Umu 'Isa
01-15-2009, 01:02 AM
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Sis, I have read that some kids go into a potty training regression once a new baby arrives. (http://www.thelaboroflove.com/articl...bling-arrives/)..

I know your son wasn't potty trained previously but maybe it is not such a good time to start potty training because your daughter is still young? and Abdullah might be a little stressed and jealous of the attention she is getting that he might act out and pee in his pants instead of the potty... just for your attention?

I don't know, just a thought :)

inshaAllaah you are successful!
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S_87
01-15-2009, 12:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
My worry is that hes too old, and that he should already be potty trained by now.

Theres alot of pressure I feel from other people because they seem to make you feel like a crap parent if your aint potty trained at a certain age.

The thing is my son absolutly loves water and any chance hell get hell play with it either by emptying his cup out or getting my glass or something and gets his clothes wet ALL THE TIME. So I think if he wets himself its not going to feel any different for him because hes used to being wet as daft as that sounds.

Also because hes a boy its difficult to get him to understand that hes got to point his boy bit downwards as Islamically boys/men arent allowed to pee standing up. I think Ill give it a go in a couple of months. My poor little lad. Its not going to be easy for any of us.
nah hes not to old, my last nephew refused to learn till he was 3 and then it was HIM that said he wanted to be a 'big boy'
and yes the pointing but down is still a problem.

Do you notice him wanting to do a poo before he does it? if so, before he actually does get him on the toilet. or get him in the habit of sitting on the toilet every morning as he wakes up even if he doesnt do anything.
Itll be hard chasing him around especially with another kid to worry about too, but as long as hes in routine it should be fine inshaAllah
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Lonely Gal
01-15-2009, 12:31 PM
the age is just right to have him potty training, however it does depend on the child himself..
My nephew was under two and he took it off in one day, and thats no exageration. One morning we put big boy pants on him, and sat him on the potty after that time, he always went to the potty.
I agree with other posts, if he has an accident, dont make it into a big deal. Jus explain whats happened and whaat he should do is tell you when he needs the loo.
When he has an accident, let him feel the uncomfortablness from the wetness for a while, so that when he finds it strange and horrible, he will come to you and let you know, slowly he will realise to tell you before feelin the wetness.
I agree take him out and let him choose, show him this is what big boys wear and now that hes a big boy, encourage him lots and take him to the loo or potty train alot. Take him to wee every hour or so and try to get him to go..wait a while and if he dont, then take him again in half hr or so..
soon he will get the hang of it..
If he talks properly, maybe you could ask if he wants to use the loo or potty, see which he prefers..
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Daffodil
01-15-2009, 08:32 PM
He does know what a potty is and he knows what a toilet is he just doesnt sit on it for that long and I dont think he understands the concept. When Im changing my little girl I do tell my son, look, she did a poo, shes naughty, your a big boy, your not naughty, your a good boy, you should do it in your potty, he agrees but bless him, hes not quite there yet.

Hes really quick at learning and is so good at memorising. Hes very aware of things. I know its my fault for giving up after two hours, I should keep going with it. Its just daunting when youve got to go out and your son is likely to wee in his buggy. My husband bought loads of pants for him so Ill try and give it another go. Ill try next month inshallah. Jizakallah kheir for your advice.
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ajnabee
01-15-2009, 09:01 PM
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sis the important thing to remember is to make potty training a POSITIVE experience for him insha'allah.


wishin u success. :)
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Daffodil
01-15-2009, 09:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ajnabee
:sl:

sis the important thing to remember is to make potty training a POSITIVE experience for him insha'allah.


wishin u success. :)
Hey your from Ummah! Its Umm Saalehah!
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ajnabee
01-15-2009, 10:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
Hey your from Ummah! Its Umm Saalehah!

loool :D
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Lonely Gal
01-16-2009, 10:08 AM
I strongly suggest, when u start to continue and not stop even if it takes a long time. If you start and stop regularly, he will not understand and get confused to what hes supposed to do..
Look for any of the following signs that your child is ready:

Your child stays dry at least 2 hours at a time during the day or is dry after naps.
Bowel movements become regular and predictable.
Facial expressions, posture, or words reveal that your child is about to urinate or have a bowel movement.
Your child can follow simple instructions.
Your child can walk to and from the bathroom and help undress.
Your child seems uncomfortable with soiled diapers and wants to be changed.
Your child asks to use the toilet or potty chair.
Your child asks to wear grown-up underwear.
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ajnabee
01-16-2009, 07:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Lonely Gal
I strongly suggest, when u start to continue and not stop even if it takes a long time. If you start and stop regularly, he will not understand and get confused to what hes supposed to do..
:sl:

i disagree. there is no point continuing if ur child is clearly not ready. if they dont get it now, they probably wont for a whole while after. why stress everyone over it when u could just leave it til the child is ready? n the finishing time would be the same as if u had waited anyway. the child will not be confused... trust me.

there is no point causing urself n the child all that hassle when u could always try again in a month or two.

the other points about knowing when ur child is ready are good indicators but as with everything, each individual child is different n develops at his/her own pace :thumbs_up
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Orn
01-20-2009, 03:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Daffodil
He didnt even tell me that he had weed.

:scared::scared::scared::uuh::uuh::uuh:
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