Your my sister - shes not ?

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little incident that happend which made me think about the sorry state of our ummah.

My little sister, whos 13, has a somalin friend with whom shes goes swimming every Friday.The swimming baths she goes to is apparently swamped by somalian women, not leaving room for anyone else! lol. Recently, my sister told me that she was waiting for her friend to leave the changing room so she could use it, as her friend came out and she was going to go in, a somalian girl, came and held a long conversation with my sisters friend, in arabic.

Later my sister discovered that the girl had been asking her friend to let her go in first instead of my sister......because.......she is somalian and so should do her fellow somalian a favour....

her exact words were, 'your my sister, shes not'.

we are pakistani btw.


:) wow.So this is what the ummah has come to.
 
Perhaps it is just children talking.
Kids can be funny like that ...
 
If you understood the concept of brotherhood in Islam, that transcends every division, then you would understand that there is no such thing as a fellow being not being your brother or sister.

It might be brushed off as childs talk, im not even sure of the age of the other somalian girl, she could have been older, but the implications of her words are deeper.

What does she mean...? that someone who is not the same ethnicity as you, is not your sister?, and that help and favours should only be reserved for your own people?. Where did she learn this way of thinking.., from elders?. Why do even innocent children think like this?

To me it is deeply saddening

ok, lets just say its kids talking, but are you saying you've never seen this behaviour in adults? :)
 
glo said:
Perhaps it is just children talking.
Kids can be funny like that ...
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^Ditto
I cant imagine adults say such things +o(
children are funny sometimes.....dont let your sisters take that too personally, try to explain it to her in a better way, children in this age tend to form groups with each other like: "this is my friend you cant make her your friend as well" !! and stuff like that

lol, that bring back the old elementary school days :statisfie

even though, I think parents do have a role on this..
 
Yes, it is saddening, sister. I am not saying it isn't. And I can understand that you are hurting for your little sister! imsad

But it could also be a good opportunity to teach those young children the true teaching of Islam.
 
Danah said:
^Ditto

children in this age tend to form groups with each other like: "this is my friend you cant make her your friend as well" !! and stuff like that

lol, that bring back the old elementary school days :statisfie

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no no, its not like that
this girl didnt even know my sisters friend.She was just a random person and said this purely on the basis that the two were somalian and my sister was non-somalian. yet all three are muslim!

that is what is disturbing and sad.
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Thing is, not being particularly racist, but young somali children do tend to be very outspoken and alot of the somali girls in my class dont really know that much about islam...so you cant say its actually the ummah...if you think about it, though, these kids are only a couple of yrs younger than me so..theyre not rlly kids, are they? I mean, when I was 13 I could tell that that would be the wrong thing to say..

Lol, the pool i go to has about a thousand somali people too ^^
They seem to generally jus stick together, rlly..which is great for them lol, but gives off a kind of vibe that tells u that ure not rlly wanted.
I think maybe they think that other people will be racist to them, so they become kind of agressive. Not sayin all somali people, but the ones at my local pool.
 
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idk said:
alot of the somali girls in my class dont really know that much about islam....
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really....so all those flowing abayas are for what :) culture. They seem to cover up pretty well MashaAllah,...i have always admired how somalian women dressed...i would have thought they would have some islamic knowledge and understanding to make an informed choice to dress like that....or is it enforced?

I dont mean to generalise btw. :)


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idk said:
lol, the pool i go to is has about a thousand somali people too ^^
They seem to generally jus stick together, rlly..which is great for them lol, but gives off a kind of vibe that tells u that ure not rlly wanted. Not sayin all somali people, but the ones at my local pool.
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this is the sort of exclusiveness that divides us
 
You're perhaps overthinking the whole situation? At 13 years children do say silly things which (to us) can seem really quite bad.. I hope someone corrected that girl though, don't want to be growing up with views like that.
 
Mysterious Uk said:
You're perhaps overthinking the whole situation? At 13 years children do say silly things which (to us) can seem really quite bad.. I hope someone corrected that girl though, don't want to be growing up with views like that.
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Actually nowadays, a 10 yr old could outsmart you.So 13, is pretty mature turst me. Ive worked with kids.
yes! thats the very thing thats disturbing!
I dont think anyones going to correct her, least of all her parents!...and shes gna grow up thinking that way!.

People really need to stop teaching ttheir kids their cultures, and start teaching Islam!
 
Sahabiyaat said:
really....so all those flowing abayas are for what :) culture. They seem to cover up pretty well MashaAllah,...i have always admired how somalian women dressed...i would have thought they would have some islamic knowledge and understanding to make an informed choice to dress like that....or is it enforced?

I dont mean to generalise btw. :)


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this is the sort of exclusiveness that divides us
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Sis, theres a girl in my class, who dresses in long skirts, with jeans underneath, long sleeves and a headscarf...yet she goes out with boys, hugs random boys, doesnt rlly pray, etc.

Alot of somali girls have recently started taking off their hijab..dont know if its behind their parents back or if they agree..

I know that parents who grew up in Somalia are strict on culture and religion.
But a good many of them are great muslims, mashallah :statisfie

Exactly, and you feel outnumbered because there are quite alot of somalians, and even though im egyptian i am mixed raced/darkish skin, and often a somali sis will go up to me n be like

'are u somalion?'
'no'
'what are u den?'
'egyptian'
'oh, kk, bye den'

its like...if i was somalion, what difference does it make?!

And i think parents try to give their children 'somali pride' meaning they become so proud of being somalion it almosts turns into arrogance...maybe their parents mean well but theirs a fine line between good pride and arrogance.

This goes on in some other cultures too..
 
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Its a shame!imsad Because children learn from what they see. They see their parents or elders do similar things, and children follow.

People even in this day and age, show greater importance towards their culture, their ethnicity, and what their parents did rather than what Islam teaches us.

Islam does not show any importance towards cast. Islam is not meant only for the Arabs nor the Asians but for the mercy of whole mankind.

FiAmaaniAllah
 
Sis, if you try and correct it you may be labeled as 'racist', very wrongly, or sometimes they'll think 'who are you, my mum?'

So its important kids are raised to believe things like this from the very start, by their mums, so then they cant say things like
'ur not my mum' cuz she is, lol.
 
And how lol? Most kids are cheeky n will probly stare you out then burst out laughin n walk away. I know I did that alot when i was..ehm, little

:-[
 
I don't think that other girl was purposefully being mean and spiteful. I think she just wanted to get in the pool really quick, lol, and was using this as an excuse.

What did your sister's friend say to that somali girl ?
 
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^ yeah i was thinking something similar... maybe it was an excuse so she could go in first...e.g. let me go in the dinner Que first because i'm your class mate... that type of think? noh?

wa/salam
 
we don't know the context really so we are just making assumptions.. Either way it still wasn't exactly right.. but i wouldn't read too much into it..
 
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whooo Lets not stereotype, just ther day I saw a sister who is Hafz Quran (I wont say her ethnicity) walking with a boy,before you knew it he had his hands on her n even kissed her..don’t get me wrong, that was the wrong thing to say n if I was there I would’ve definitely let her no

And I do agree with sis Sahabiyaat,our ummah have taken race and ethnicity to whole new level’s see it all the time and trust me it does rub off fairly quickly. Kids see this from their family, community and friends so I’m not surprised at the comment.
Ive seen it on numerous occasions whether it be an African American, Pakistani, Indian, or arab brother or sister do it

N yes this is what our ummah is coming to…

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