I have read that gender separation in Islamic countries..

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..leads to a very high percentage of Muslim boys and young men having their first sexual experience with other boys and young men, and that there is a big problem with men insisting on sodomy with their wives in these same countries.

I am currently researching this trend, and I'm finding many Muslim women consider it a great problem, and that most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it. This seemingly points to a conclusion that gender separation and homosexuality/sodomy is a huge (yet silent) problem in Islam.

Would anyone like to comment?
 
Can you actually quote a reliable source from where you "read" that from?
 
WesStrikesBack said:
I am currently researching this trend, and I'm finding many Muslim women consider it a great problem, and that most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it.
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are you sure about that?

Which muslim women did you find? :rollseyes
 
I've also heard that, but I'm no longer so sure of it. I came across this article the other day, this part is relevant

Segregation Not a Cause


Some believe that sex segregation is the main reason behind such relations since sexual urge is a natural dormant energy in all people. Finding no boy to exchange her feelings with, a girl looks to her like, and vice versa.
However, Thamer Al-Saykhan, a columnist for Al-Haya newspaper, refuses the opinion that homosexuality is widespread in Gulf societies due to the minimum interaction between the two sexes. He says that the highest rates of homosexuality are in countries that have gone beyond free mixing between the sexes to a policy of 'do as you like' with the other sex and yet they still have higher rates.
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WesStrikesBack said:
..leads to a very high percentage of Muslim boys and young men having their first sexual experience with other boys and young men, and that there is a big problem with men insisting on sodomy with their wives in these same countries.

I am currently researching this trend, and I'm finding many Muslim women consider it a great problem, and that most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it. This seemingly points to a conclusion that gender separation and homosexuality/sodomy is a huge (yet silent) problem in Islam.

Would anyone like to comment?
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I too would like some categorical evidence (statistics, sources of information etc) that supports your claim. Heck, the source of your initial info would also be welcome (and I wonder why you have not posted it...my guess is you obtained it from an unreputable site or you read a post on a forum in passing...in either case, your argument is lacking some foundation and as such will be opened to critique until you sort it out)

BTW; I went to an all-boys secondary school (5 years, during the teen period where hormones are racing). I'm straight.
 
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I've read that from a number of sources. But I just don't think the concrete evidence is there.

If this is true (and even if not...):
May Allah (swt) guide us all. Ameen.
 
darkillusions said:
homosexuality and pedophilia is a bigger problem in the church!
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lol. Totally.

As if the west with all the gender mixing does not suffer from homosexuality(now the hypocrite considers it a disease, a problem, an abnormality).
What we can see in the west leads to the conclusion that even with free mixing they remain as perverted as ever looking for more and more satisfaction through homosexuality, animal sex, you name it.
 
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Directly, gender seperation has got zilch to do with it. And, I disagree that it involves a high percentage of men. But yes, it does happen.

It is the increased availability and use of pornographic material, along with the failure to implement islamic morals and laws in their lives, add to which, the prevention of allowing young people to marry by parents when they are ready and willing, as well as hijabless young women inciting men's desires, that has all lead to some men seeking any means to satisfy what should've been natural urges in perverse and degraded ways.

If these issues were addressed, even the strictest form of gender separation would not lead homosexuality.
 
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WesStrikesBack said:
..leads to a very high percentage of Muslim boys and young men having their first sexual experience with other boys and young men,
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And you know this how? Are there any signs for this; or is this just you speculating? And how can you even put a percentage to that? And what kind of percentage? 90% or 0.009% ???

and that there is a big problem with men insisting on sodomy with their wives in these same countries.
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That's even more of a slippery slope argument. conjectures and speculations again.

I am currently researching this trend,
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Can I ask how you are researching it? Which kind of criteria, examination process?

and I'm finding many Muslim women consider it a great problem
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Woman who consider the possibility of this a great problem, or woman who claim that this does happen a lot. And how would these woman know what men do or don't do? And exactly how many Muslim woman have you found who think this? It seems you are very generous with words like "many" and "high" etc... but show no exact numbers.

and that most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it.
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Again what is your definition of "most", and how many guys have you actually asked. And have they told you why they don't want to discuss this?

This seemingly points to a conclusion that gender separation and homosexuality/sodomy is a huge (yet silent) problem in Islam.
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Again a very slippery slope. It could just as well be that they're not comfortable discussing it for many other reasons. For somebody claiming to do "research" you have very unscientific ways of reaching your conclusions.
 
The California raisins told him
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you know they have us as cave dwelling, gun toting, women beating hooligans, so why shouldn't "I've heard' suffice in such a case?
 
two homos on the independent is a formal study in your opinion? lol--Ok
 
WesStrikesBack said:
..leads to a very high percentage of Muslim boys and young men having their first sexual experience with other boys and young men, and that there is a big problem with men insisting on sodomy with their wives in these same countries.

I am currently researching this trend, and I'm finding many Muslim women consider it a great problem, and that most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it. This seemingly points to a conclusion that gender separation and homosexuality/sodomy is a huge (yet silent) problem in Islam.

Would anyone like to comment?
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Did you read it in KKK Weekly ?

Strangely I doubt whether many Muslim women would talk to you about their marital problems.

The only ring of truth here is "most Mulsim men don't want to discuss it" with you.
 
Homosexuality happens.. it is acknowledged ..
there is help for those who seek to live in accordance to Islamic law..

http://www.islamonline.net/english/in_depth/homosexuality/index.shtml

I doubt however, that Muslim women were interviewed, or that the Saudi regime (as un-Islamic) as it is, has anything to do with men turning homo..

I suspect the same percentage is afflicted the world over -- as is the case with any personality disorders which affects 10%~15% of the population.. it will be 10%~15% in Saskatchewan, Maldives or Saudi Arabia..

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I am going to make my own thread for Urdu speakers in helpdesk forum on this subject, since I spent my first 47 years in Muslim countries, I should know a little something about this perversion.
 
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two homos on the independent is a formal study in your opinion? lol--Ok
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It isn't, there are no official statistics to confirm the thread starter's theory, but then there are no official statistics about the prevalence of homosexuality in the western world, hence saying it is more common here are equally invalid.
 
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