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Many of you believe that the West is out to deliberately target Muslim countries and muslims themselves. In doing so, they use their propoganda to get inside the minds of the Western people to create divisions. An example of this was the build up to the war in Iraq.

If you believe that they are out to target muslim countries and muslims what would be the reason for this? What would the West hope to gain? I'm a Sun newspaper reader and I notice some of this. Sometimes it does pull you in. But what is the objective?
 
Most of its about oil - Isreal - militery bases - the west supporting tyrants and invading countries or overthrowing governments whenever they feel like it for there own political and economic gain.

The problem is that the muslims are sitting on top of the oil - But if you going to try to take the oil through any means(militery or any other way) - then they have to expect a fight.

Its realy that simple

maybe the western governments are also scared of competition from a solid political system developing in the mid east that may challenge the western governments as they want everybody to think like the west - but so far its about power and oil.

Ps- By the west I mean specifically USA, France and UK and there imperial ventures by the governments.
 
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Its when innocent people get killed is the problem, its when muslims are called terrorists is the problem. Why blow up a whole country over something? When people attack then defend, why go there and kill innocent people? Muslim people are fed up of being targets and accused of being killers.

Muslims dont feel threatened by the west. Most muslims have become all westernised. The issues arise when fingers are pointed for no reason. If a Christian man murders someone the headlines will say 'Man killed blah blah' when it is someone of a muslim background its always 'Muslim man killed a innocent blah blah'. No wonder muslims feel targetted
 
paradise786 said:
Its when innocent people get killed is the problem, its when muslims are called terrorists is the problem. Why blow up a whole country over something? When people attack then defend, why go there and kill innocent people? Muslim people are fed up of being targets and accused of being killers.

Muslims dont feel threatened by the west. Most muslims have become all westernised. The issues arise when fingers are pointed for no reason. If a Christian man murders someone the headlines will say 'Man killed blah blah' when it is someone of a muslim background its always 'Muslim man killed a innocent blah blah'. No wonder muslims feel targetted
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That's not true.
 
I once heard an opinion that after fall of Communism, the West shifted to something else it viewed as a threat, Islam. Islam comes into conflict with some of the prevailing notions in the West such as separation of CHurch and state and is a much more tenured force in the world than Communism ever was.

But other than that... the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan are killing Muslims while the aims of the countries perpetrating the wars are just in their self interest. So... I guess thats why we don't like it.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Of course I won't, please back up your claims some other way.
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The Daily Mail/The sun - well known papers.

There was also a study done that anti muslim reports were more in the news then any other religion. I'll try to find that if I can.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005/nov/14/pressandpublishing.raceintheuk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4325225.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-feel-like-jews-of-europe-859978.html


On and on on.
 
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LET US EVALUATE HOW MEDIA PORTRAYS ........

Muslims are Fundamentalist, Extremist and Terrorist!
What do you think…?
Let's read some news…

Killing own children and wife

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So what do NON-Muslims Do???



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This is media depiction of events.
They never write Christian/Jews/ Buddhist/Hindus/ Atheist/Parsis etc... killed his daughter/son etc…
Only they write and mention if he is Muslim.
This make you think of Muslim an Extremist and Fundamentalist.
Let's find some more crimes…

Incest Crimes

By Muslims


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By Non-Muslim


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Hmm….Now
What about Terrorism….following are muslims




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Then who the following are???














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These are NON-Muslims.

Are NOT they Terrorist??? ????????



Killer always belongs to some religion or faith. Only mention when he is Muslim.

One might say…
But Muslims are suicide bombers ….they are real terrorist

Let's have a look at the following…



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Above are Muslim
Then who are the following??? ?






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These are Hindus and Bhudhist…

Policy recurs by the media…

See some Statics

CHICAGO PROJECT ON SUICIDE TERRORISM



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79% are Communist and Christians suicide bombers.
21% Islamist.







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Both Charts show that secular suicide bombers are more than religious.




Here's another view.


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Tamil has no comparison, 100% SECULAR

PKK 100% SECULAR.

Lebanese 71% SECULAR;
29% (Relegious) Not only Muslims but also Christians.

Palestine about 60% RELEGIOUS (SURELY MUSLIMS)
AlQaeda 100% Religious (Off course Muslims)


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BUT WHY MORE MUSLIMS IN PALESTINE ARE SUICIDE BOMBER?????? ????????? ?????????

LET'S SEE
IS THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN STATE OF WAR AGAINST ISRAEL ?????



Hmmmm….. YES, I SEE TERRORIST HERE…..​






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If these are terrorist then who is terrorizing them?








I see terrorist, do you?

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THESE ARE PALESTINIANS WITH IN PALESTINE (HOME).
CAN YOU BLAST A TANK WITH A SMALL STONE?
THEY CAN'T;
THEY NEED A BOMBER JACKET TO SAVE THEIR CHILDREN.


See brutal statics of Palestinians fatalities…



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WHAT WILL YOU DO IF THIS ALL HAPPENS TO YOU?

One might say…
they can call USA for help instead of suicide attacks or stoning tanks.

HERE IS USA ROLL IN THIS WAR…



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LET US EVALUATE HOW MEDIA PORTRAYS MUSLIMS as Terrorists, Fundumentalits, Extremists etc...

ALL FRIENDS ARE KINDLY REQUESTED TO FORWARD THIS MESSEGE TO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN INORDER TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHO ARE THE REAL TERRIORSTS.
 
AntiKarateKid said:
I once heard an opinion that after fall of Communism, the West shifted to something else it viewed as a threat, Islam. Islam comes into conflict with some of the prevailing notions in the West such as separation of CHurch and state and is a much more tenured force in the world than Communism ever was.

But other than that... the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan are killing Muslims while the aims of the countries perpetrating the wars are just in their self interest. So... I guess thats why we don't like it.
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:salamext:


Try to look up on modernism and the progressives, spearheads (aided by Europe, USA etc i.e. the Quilliam organisation etc) against the Islam which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad.

And yes, it's because of what you said.
 
Thank You Zafran and Guest.. Im not saying its linked with islam. Why mention the religion of the criminal when theyre muslim?
 
paradise786 said:
Thank You Zafran and Guest.. Im not saying its linked with islam. Why mention the religion of the criminal when theyre muslim?
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Sometimes it's because it has occurred due to someone's religious belief whereas the other is committed for no reason at all. There is a problem in regard to honour in some Muslim families where some feel it is their duty to kill if betrayed.
 
The point is that religion is only mentioned when it played a significant role in the crime. If a father murders his child because he or she imitated the kuffar it is clearly Islam had something to do eith the crime, if a Tamil bombs himself in order for the Tamil Army to prevail his beliefs again play a role in the crime so it gets mentioned. If a mother has sex with her son on no religious or ieological ground the latter are not mentioned, simple. Same goes for everything mentioned in the long post above.
 
Blackpool said:
Sometimes it's because it has occurred due to someone's religious belief whereas the other is committed for no reason at all. There is a problem in regard to honour in some Muslim families where some feel it is their duty to kill if betrayed.
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I agree that some people may kill others due to 'honour killings', but the acts that they do are not islamic acts. They're usually cultural acts which have no place in Islam.


Read this for more info;

Honor Killing from an Islamic Perspective
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543392


Peace
 

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