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divine_quran
07-31-2009, 07:31 PM
Dear Readers

The governance has nothing to do with the matters pertaining to religion and ethics. The governance is comprehensive and composite which encompasses the entire life of the individual members of the society and is never accountable to anyone for its functions and decisions. It raised power from the geographical boundaries for its nationalism.

Here we are discussing in general about the salient features of the modern system of governance. But as we look from the Quran's point of view this is wrong. The Quran develops its foundation on the concept of ideology which is the other name of Deen, a system of life and Iman (belief), acceptance. The State which is established on this concept is called the Quranic State or you can say Islamic State, which encompasses two groups of people:

(i) The group whose members believe in the Quranic concept of Ideology and

(ii) The group whose members do not believe in this Ideology.

The members of the first group run the administration of this State and also look after the human rights of the second group so that the members of this group are not deprived of any human right. The concept of Ideology makes it clear that the System of Governance is not all-powerful; it operates only within the limitations of the Ideology. It cannot function beyond these sanctions. These are permanent values and the system is not empowered to cross them, neither longitudinal nor latitudinal. This concept of Ideology basically transforms the idea of nationalism as false and farce. Today the foundation of the nationalism has nothing to do with ideology, but instead it rests within the boundary walls of geographical boundaries on which the country is founded.

So if look at the genesis of Quranic Message for Islamic State it tells that it has nothing to do with creed, language or caste of its people. Therefore the groups of people who are living in the Islamic country without believing in its ideology do not make them the members of that nation, but on the other hand a person not living in that state but believing in this ideology makes them the members of that nation. Beyond any shadow of doubt it can be said that it is based on: Laa Elaa ha - Illa Ullaho - Muhammad-urr-Rasool Ullah .

This is nothing but Kalema, the theory of life or the concept of life. In the present day terminology this is know as Ideology.

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Thinker
07-31-2009, 08:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by divine_quran
The State which is established on this concept is called the Quranic State or you can say Islamic State, which encompasses two groups of people:

(i) The group whose members believe in the Quranic concept of Ideology and

(ii) The group whose members do not believe in this Ideology.

The members of the first group run the administration of this State and also look after the human rights of the second group so that the members of this group are not deprived of any human right. The concept of Ideology makes it clear that the System of Governance is not all-powerful; it operates only within the limitations of the Ideology. It cannot function beyond these sanctions. These are permanent values and the system is not empowered to cross them, neither longitudinal nor latitudinal. This concept of Ideology basically transforms the idea of nationalism as false and farce. Today the foundation of the nationalism has nothing to do with ideology, but instead it rests within the boundary walls of geographical boundaries on which the country is founded.
Hmmm, I’m not sure what you are saying / asking?

Are you saying:
That you want an Islamic state?
That an Islamic state is viable in today’s world?
That an Islamic state exists?

Can you define Islamic State; define ‘State.’?
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czgibson
08-01-2009, 12:12 AM
Greetings,

How does this:

format_quote Originally Posted by divine_quran
The governance is comprehensive and composite which encompasses the entire life of the individual members of the society and is never accountable to anyone for its functions and decisions.
fit with this?:

The concept of Ideology makes it clear that the System of Governance is not all-powerful;
It's actually very, very unclear.

Peace
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Zafran
08-01-2009, 01:08 AM
Salaam

There is no such thing as Islamic state - however there is something called islamic governance - the whole concept of statehood is very modern and promotes nationalism.

peace
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