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Rabi Mansur
08-28-2009, 03:51 AM
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I'm not Muslim so forgive my ignorance, I'm still studying the religion. Anyway, I was reading about Ramadan and what it is suggested for you to do every day, ie.,get up before sunrise, go to Mosque, the prayers, read Qur'an, attend Mosque, go to work, fast, etc.

I don't know how you can do all that. Don't you feel very weak during the day? I think I would get sick fasting and probably give up. Maybe I am wrong. Does the fast get easier? Does your body get used to it? Just wondering.

The most I have fasted at a time was 24 hours. Didn't like it at all.

For all those who are able to fast throughout Ramadan I sincerely respect you for your dedication.
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ardianto
08-28-2009, 04:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by rabimansur
I don't know how you can do all that. Don't you feel very weak during the day? I think I would get sick fasting and probably give up. Maybe I am wrong. Does the fast get easier? Does your body get used to it? Just wondering.
A human can live 72 hours without drink and 3 weeks without eat.
Fasting is only 14 - 17 hours.
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closerthantheveins
08-28-2009, 04:45 PM
the first tym u try u mite feel weak and drowsy but soon ur body will get used 2 it and u wont even feel hungry
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north_malaysian
08-29-2009, 04:13 AM
Tired? Not at all Alhamdulillah.... :statisfie in fact the days went so fast that you dont have the time to be tired...

The secret to this is to fast several days on normal months... if you're used to fast outside Ramadan... you can do it in Ramadan... Inshallah

Try eating simple food and drink lots of water during suhoor (pre-dawn)...
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convert
08-29-2009, 04:15 AM
if you want to please your creator and lord and you fear the coming of the day of judgement, it is easy to fast and maintain the prayers... as well as give charity to the poor, love your fellow muslims regardless of race, and demand justice even if it is against you
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IslamicRevival
08-29-2009, 04:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rabimansur
:sl:

I'm not Muslim so forgive my ignorance, I'm still studying the religion. Anyway, I was reading about Ramadan and what it is suggested for you to do every day, ie.,get up before sunrise, go to Mosque, the prayers, read Qur'an, attend Mosque, go to work, fast, etc.

I don't know how you can do all that. Don't you feel very weak during the day? I think I would get sick fasting and probably give up. Maybe I am wrong. Does the fast get easier? Does your body get used to it? Just wondering.

The most I have fasted at a time was 24 hours. Didn't like it at all.

For all those who are able to fast throughout Ramadan I sincerely respect you for your dedication.
Fasting isnt hard at all. It does not make you feel weak, in fact it strengthens ones mind and body. Its an incredible feeling like no other. Allah SWT is the greatest :cry:
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Humbler_359
08-29-2009, 04:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rabimansur
:sl:

I'm not Muslim so forgive my ignorance, I'm still studying the religion. Anyway, I was reading about Ramadan and what it is suggested for you to do every day, ie.,get up before sunrise, go to Mosque, the prayers, read Qur'an, attend Mosque, go to work, fast, etc.

I don't know how you can do all that. Don't you feel very weak during the day? I think I would get sick fasting and probably give up. Maybe I am wrong. Does the fast get easier? Does your body get used to it? Just wondering.

The most I have fasted at a time was 24 hours. Didn't like it at all.

For all those who are able to fast throughout Ramadan I sincerely respect you for your dedication.
Bro rabimansur,

It is not hard that you may think. Not really. We love Ramadan Mubarak, it is very exciting to get up early, pray, eat, and devot to our prayer daily. May God (in Arabic we call Allah) guide us to the straight path and increase our knowledge and soul in order to get away Satan, Insha'Allah.
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sister herb
08-29-2009, 02:05 PM
:sl: bro rabimansur

I think it is very personal how somebody feels fasting. With me; this is my 14th ramadan but still at the first days I am very tired after day of fasting, but after that it becomes easier. At iftar time I am usually thirsty but not very hungry at all (in here fasting takes about 18 hours).

And remember, fasting is easy when you know you have a good reason why you are doing it.
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aamirsaab
08-29-2009, 02:06 PM
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First time you do it, it is hard, but it does get easier each day.

Also, the fast isn't 24 hours so it's not as bad as you might think initially. But, to give you an insight on a typical day of fasting (for moi) it's something like this:

3:30 ish (AM): wake up and eat breaky

4:40 ish pray fajr

5:00 go to bed

9:00 wake up for work

12:00 (PM) tummy starts rumbling.

5:00 come back from work

6:00 pray dhur/asr combi

7:00 woo 1 hour to go! Tummy rumbles a little but I can dig it.

8:00 get ready/eat.

8: 30 pray maghrib

9:00 eat/rest

10:00 go for isha/tarawee

11:30 come home, eat some minstrels and go to bed until 3 (AM)


Also note, the fast isn't just about not eating. It's also about abstaining from the bad (being naughty, effing and blinding, backbiting, fighting etc).
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S_87
08-29-2009, 02:09 PM
honestly i invite you to try and fast and see how it is...by the time its time to break fast after the initial water/dates..you feel full in a way (of course youll still eat though :) ) but really you do get used to it and theres a special feeling in Ramadhan, Alhumdulillah
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GuestFellow
08-29-2009, 02:27 PM
Asslamu Aliakum.

I used to fast when I was like six. o_o So you do get used to it. The hard part about fasting is self control. Controlling your emotions is difficult at times.
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Mysterious Uk
08-29-2009, 02:39 PM
It sounds harder than it actually is, i think you do just get used to it. Sometimes you do feel a bit hungry or tired but it's a reminder; later on i can eat whatever i want really, but there are others around the world who really don't have that option. Anyways thanks for the respect.
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Ramadhan
08-29-2009, 02:59 PM
Strangely, I feel more alert in the office when I am fasting. And you will get used to not drinking and eating during the day.
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Rasema
08-29-2009, 03:00 PM
During Ramadhan,I don't feel the hunger, I feel the closness of Allah,spw. It's a feeling that makes you forget everything oround you,as if you feel your soul. When we fast we feel more of awerness of Allah. So, we take things more seriously and we don't slack of.

Read about Ramadhan here:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/38064...do%20we%20fast

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/

Fasting is the easiest thing for me.

Prayer is something we enjoy. It's the time when we take a brake from everything that's oround us. We forget about this world and worries during the prayer. We take a brake during a prayer because we focus only on the prayer and what we're saying. We remind our selves of our future(the hereafter) the bridge that is over hell that we'll have to walk on. We enjoy the fatiha ,the surah,but you would have to learn the meaning of it so it makes more sence. Go to you tube, write:

In the shade of ramadan al fatiha.

It's hard to explain,but when I don't pray due to woman conditions I feel week,depressed,lost,without life, agh...
As If my creator is disappointed at me but that's because I don't feel close to him when I don't pray.

We don't have nobody but Allah. When I am not close to Allah I then don't have anybody.

At the beginning it's hard but then it becomes so easy that you start praying more than five times a day and you start praying more units. You keep getting stronger and stronger. When difficulties arrise we get happy inside because you know you'll be rewarded for it.

27. Abu Yahya Suhayb ibn Sinan said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'What an extraordinary thing the business of the believer is! All of it is good for him. And that only applies to the believer. If good fortune is his lot, he is grateful and it is good for him. If something harmful happens to him, he is steadfast and that is good for him too.'" [Muslim]


In every situation we get deeds. If we're happy,we thank to Allah,spw,which benefits us,If we're going through a hardship,we become patient through the prayer which also benefits us.When we turn to Allah it benefits us.

I don't know how could you think that what we do is harmful.

If I'm skinny,for example, I'm happy with myself because Allah has a purpose for everyone. Others wouldn't be and start having a bunch of surgeries.

No matter how poor I was I would be still happy with what I obtain.

I accept everything that happens to me because the creator of the heavens and the earth knows the best.

And so on..
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Rasema
08-30-2009, 12:36 AM
Assa;amu Alikum

Here is a good fatwa about tiring our selves.

We would like you to give us a summary of things that invalidate the fast.


Praise be to Allaah.

Allaah has prescribed fasting in accordance with the highest wisdom.

He has commanded the fasting person to fast in a moderate manner, so he should not harm himself by fasting or consume anything that will invalidate the fast.

Hence the things that invalidate the fast are of two types:

Some of the things that invalidate the fast involve things coming out of the body, such as intercourse, deliberate vomiting, menstruation and cupping. These things that come out of the body weaken it. Hence Allaah has described them as being things that invalidate the fast, so that the fasting person will not combine the weakness that results from fasting with the weakness that results from these things, and thus be harmed by his fast or his fast no longer be moderate.

And some of the things that invalidate the fast involve things entering the body, such as eating and drinking. If the fasting person eats or drinks, he does not achieve the purpose of fasting.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 25/248

Allaah has summed up the things that break the fast in the verse where He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allaah has ordained for you (offspring), and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Sawm (fast) till the nightfall”

[al-Baqarah 2:187]

In this verse Allaah mentions the main things that invalidate the fast, which are eating, drinking and intercourse. The other things that break the fast were mentioned by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in his Sunnah.

There are seven things that break the fast, as follows:

1- Intercourse

2- Masturbation

3- Eating and drinking

4- Anything that is regarded as coming under the same heading as eating and drinking

5- Letting blood by means of cupping and the like

6- Vomiting deliberately

7- Menstruation and nifaas

The first of the things that invalidate the fast is: intercourse.

This is the most serious and the most sinful of the things that invalidate the fast.

Whoever has intercourse during the day in Ramadaan deliberately and of his or her own free will, in which the two circumcised parts meet and the tip of the penis disappears in either of the two passages, has invalidated his fast, whether he ejaculates or not. He has to repent, complete that day (i.e., not eat or drink until sunset), make up that day’s fast later on and offer a severe expiation. The evidence for that is the hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I am doomed, O Messenger of Allaah!” He said, “Why are you doomed?” He said, “I had intercourse with my wife (during the day) in Ramadaan.” He said, “Can you free a slave?” He said, “No.” He said, “Can you fast for two consecutive months?” He said, “No.” He said, “Can you feed sixty poor persons?” He said, “No.”…

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1936; Muslim, 1111.

No expiation is required for any of the things that break the fast apart from intercourse.

The second of the things that invalidate the fast is masturbation.

This means causing ejaculation or climax by using the hand etc.

The evidence that masturbation is one of the things that invalidate the fast is the words of Allaah in the hadeeth qudsi in which He says of the fasting person: “He gives up his food and drink and desire for My sake.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1894; Muslim, 1151. Causing ejaculation comes under the heading of the desire which the fasting person gives up.

Whoever masturbates during the day in Ramadaan has to repent to Allaah and refrain from eating and drinking for the rest of the day, and he has to make up that fast later on.

If he starts to masturbate then stops without ejaculating, he has to repent, but his fast is still valid, and he does not have to make it up later because he did not ejaculate. The fasting person should keep away from everything that provokes desire and shun bad thoughts.

With regard to the emission of madhiy (prostatic fluid), the most correct view is that it does not invalidate the fast.

The third of the things that invalidate the fast is eating or drinking
This refers to food or drink reaching the stomach via the mouth.

If anything reaches the stomach via the nose, this is like eating or drinking.

Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Snuff up water deeply into the nose (when doing wudoo’), except when you are fasting.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 788. If water reaching the stomach via the nose did not invalidate the fast, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have told those who are fasting not to snuff up water deeply into the nose.

The fourth of the things that invalidate the fast is anything that is regarded as coming under the same heading as eating and drinking

This includes two things:

1- Transfusion of blood to one who is fasting – such as if he bleeds heavily and is given a blood transfusion. This invalidates the fast because blood is formed from food and drink.

2- Receiving via a needle (as in the case of a drip) nourishing substances which take the place of food and drink, because this is the same as food and drink. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, Majaalis Shahr Ramadaan, p/ 70.

With regard to injections which do not replace food and drink, rather they are administered for the purpose of medical treatment – such as penicillin or insulin – or are given to energize the body, or for the purpose of vaccinations, these do not affect the fast, whether they are intravenous or intramuscular (injected into a vein or a muscle). Fataawa Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem, 4/189. But to be on the safe side, these injections may be given at night.

Kidney dialysis, in which blood is extracted, cleaned and then returned to the body with the additional of chemical substances such as sugars and salts etc. is regarded as invalidating the fast. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 10/19

The fifth of the things that invalidate the fast is letting blood by means of cupping

Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The cupper and the one for whom cupping is done have both invalidated their fast.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2367; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 2047.

Donating blood comes under the same heading as cupping, because it affects the body in the same way.

Based on this, it is not permissible for a person who is fasting to donate blood unless it is essential, in which case it is permissible. In that case the donor has broken his fast and must make up that day later on. Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, Majaalis Shahr Ramadaan, p. 71

If a person suffers a nosebleed, his fast is valid, because that happened involuntarily. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 10/264

With regard to bleeding that results from extraction of a tooth, surgery or a blood test etc., that does not invalidate the fast because it is not cupping or something that is similar to cupping, unless it has an effect on the body similar to that of cupping.

The sixth of the things that invalidate the fast is vomiting deliberately
Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever vomits involuntarily does not have to make up the fast, but whoever vomits deliberately let him make up the fast.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 720, classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 577.

Ibn al-Mundhir said: The scholars are agreed that the fast of one who vomits deliberately is invalidated. Al-Mughni, 4/368.

Whoever vomits deliberately by sticking his finger in his throat, pressing his stomach, deliberately smelling something nasty or persisting in looking at something that makes him vomit, has to make up his fast later on.

If his gorge rises, he should not suppress it, because that will harm him. Majaalis Sharh Ramadaan, Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, p. 71.

The seventh of the things that invalidate the fast is the blood of menses and nifaas

Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Is it not the case that when she gets her period, she does not pray or fast?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 304.

When a woman sees the blood of her period or nifaas (post-partum bleeding), her fast becomes invalid even if that is one moment before sunset.

If a woman feels that her period has started but no blood comes out until after sunset, her fast is still valid.

If the bleeding of a woman who is menstruating or in nifaas ceases at night and she has the intention of fasting, then dawn comes before she does ghusl, the view of all the scholars is that her fast is valid. Al-Fath, 4/148.

It is preferable for a woman to keep to her natural cycle and to accept that which Allaah has decreed for her, and not to take any medicine to prevent her period. She should accept what Allaah has decreed for her of not fasting during her period, and make up those days later on. This is what the Mothers of the Believers and the women of the Salaf used to do. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 10/151. In addition, it has been medically proven that these means of preventing menstruation are harmful and many women have suffered menstrual irregularities as a result. If a woman takes pills and her period stops as a result, that is fine, she can fast and her fast is acceptable.

These are things that invalidate the fast. All of them – apart from menses and nifaas – only invalidate the fast if three conditions are met: that the person was aware of the ruling and not ignorant of it; that he did it knowingly and not out of forgetfulness; and that he did it by choice and was not forced to do it.

We should also note some things that do not invalidate the fast:

Enemas, eyedrops, eardrops, tooth extraction and treatment of injuries do not invalidate the fast. Majmoo’ Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam, 25/233; 25/245

Medical tablets that are placed under the tongue to treat asthma attacks etc, so long as you avoid swallowing any residue.

Insertion of anything into the vagina such as pessaries, or a speculum, or the doctor’s fingers for the purpose of medical examination.

Insertion of medical instruments or IUD into the womb.

Anything that enters the urinary tract of a male or female, such as a catheter tube, or medical scopes, or opaque dyes inserted for the purpose of x-rays, or medicine, or a solution to wash the bladder.

Fillings, extractions or cleaning of the teeth, whether with a siwaak or toothbrush, so long as you avoid swallowing anything that reaches the throat.

Rinsing the mouth, gargling, sprays etc. so long as you avoid swallowing anything that reaches the throat.

Oxygen or anaesthetic gases, so long as that does not give the patient any kind of nourishment.

Anything that may enter the body via absorption through the skin, such as creams, poultices, etc.

Insertion of a fine tube via the veins for diagnostic imaging or treatment of the veins of the heart or any part of the body.

Insertion of a scope through the stomach wall to examine the intestines by means of a surgical operation (laparoscopy).

Taking samples from the liver or any other part of the body, so long as that is not accompanied by administration of solutions.

Endoscopy, so long as that is not accompanied by administration of solutions or other substances.

Introduction of any medical instruments or materials to the brain or spinal column.

And Allaah knows best.

See Majaalis Ramadaan by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, and the booklet Sab’oona Mas’alah fi’l-Siyaam.



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Danah
08-30-2009, 01:49 AM
Fasting is really amazing, purifying soul stomach and also mouth

Purifying soul by fast from sins, backbiting and harming other people
Purifying stomach because you give your a break from food to rest and that is very healthy
Purifying your mouth because you also give your teeth a break from keep chewing food

For me, I feel more healthy when I am fasting rather than eating, and above all of that if we are doing something to please our creator we will rather enjoy doing practice worshipping even if it's hard because the strength we got to do it is from Allan all praise to him
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Rabi Mansur
08-30-2009, 01:56 AM
Thanks for your many good answers!

Ramadan Mubarak!
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