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Ummu Sufyaan
12-09-2009, 05:52 AM
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i dont exactly know if this has been bought up before, but me and and a friend were discussing home schooling and the affects it'll have on the kids social skills. we both think that home schooling is tops in many ways, but the only negative we could think of is the lack of social interaction the child will get by being home schooled.
i mean you can have activities and enroll them in groups/clubs were other kids are involved, but the social environment is completely different from that of a school and since it is something natural and normal for people to socialize, it may have negative affects on the child, especially knowing that other kids go to school and they are the only ones left out.

so, what are the ways one could combat this? how can a home schooled child develop social skills equal/similar to the ones that kids at schools would develop?
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Cabdullahi
12-09-2009, 03:08 PM
''so, what are the ways one could combat this? how can a home schooled child develop social skills equal/similar to the ones that kids at schools would develop?''

homeschool them but every weekend set-up a gathering where they can meet other children under your supervision...they can do activities and have good ,controlled and innocent social exposure.
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Rabi'ya
12-09-2009, 03:13 PM
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I have looked into homeschooling my daughter. She is now 3 and will be starting school full time in a years time. To me homeschooling is a brilliant option and there are many local groups to help socialisation.

I was considering enrolling her in extra classes like Karate, or the like. there are many classes available from children as young as 3. group meetings are fantastic and the local council can put you in touch with people who can offer advise.

Homeschooling is top, unless you can find an amazing islamic school. I recently discovered a girls only school in a mosque loaclly. it is only from age 11+ tho :( inshAllah they will extend their years and my daughter can attend .
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Beardo
12-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Not that I dwell on this topic much on my own, but personally with my kids, I'd like them to finish elementary school in the public schools. Maybe 7/8 grade, but high school will be done at home.

I actually have a good cirriculum set for my children insha'Allah, but there is no guarantee I'll be living here, so it might need to be adjusted according to local standards.

I went home schooling three years of my life. 7, 8, and 10. I must say, 8 was my all time favorite. I'll never forget that year.
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Beardo
12-09-2009, 03:18 PM
I'd like to add one thing actually.

If you are home schooling, you have to have an extra curriculur on the side, such as Hifdh or something you want to be good at in the future and pursue it.

I'll be honest. Home schooling standards are not as high, and please don't try to deny that. I've been through various home schooling program. Naturally it won't be as good because the system is more about how you are doing it at home. I used to go to school twice a week anyway for a class or two and socialize. People get that misconception that home schoolers lock themselves in their rooms 24/7 like emos.

Plus, public schools have professional teachers.
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Rabi'ya
12-09-2009, 03:28 PM
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I have considered this, but I feel especially in the Western society we need qualifications. I would like to homeschool my daughter until perhaps Year 10 when i would like her to do GCSEs. My brother was homeschool, but he had to pay £200 per GCSE because he was not in full time education. silly if u ask me. he only got 3 GCSEs because many of them need a lot of specialist knowledge which my mum didnt have. alhamdulillah she did her best. but he has now dropped out of education compeltely.
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Alpha Dude
12-09-2009, 03:42 PM
how can a home schooled child develop social skills equal/similar to the ones that kids at schools would develop?
Why would sane parents want their kids to have similar social skills as kids that go to school. Go to any school and look at how the children there interact with each other and tell me if there are any attributes of their social skills that are emulation worthy. -_-
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Rabi'ya
12-09-2009, 03:51 PM
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it can be said that some chlidren who are homeschool, can(im not saying will) become quite isolated. they can lack some social skills that other learn whilst at school. they might not learn how to react to different situations or how to address different people. just a though.
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Alpha Dude
12-09-2009, 05:45 PM
Wa alaykum salam,

it can be said that some chlidren who are homeschool, can(im not saying will) become quite isolated. they can lack some social skills that other learn whilst at school. they might not learn how to react to different situations or how to address different people. just a though.
I know.

The problem with public schooling is that the system churns out kids who are brainwashed into thinking in one collective way. They follow the pattern set for them and don't truly think for themselves. They aren't encouraged to be educated or even socialise properly, rather just to learn facts and figures so that they can pass exams. They predominantly only form bonds and 'socialise' with people of their own age (their own class year) and where there is a racial mix, those of their own ethnicity are their closest friends.

Children aren't taught how to socialise at schools, they are left to their own devices and it's something they pick up by themselves. With homeschooling, parents can actively engineer a child's social life to make sure they gain only good habits. There doesn't have to be a race, age or class barrier as one will find in schools.

You'll also find that there is a desire set among kids in school that they need to prove themselves by being popular, behave arrogantly, disregard and have no respect for authority, behave indifferently. Social charecterisitcs that are apalling, yet common and thought of as 'normal'.

Homeschooling parents should be committed and serious about the development of their children. They should take every step to ensure they give positive social lessons to their children. Absent that, then of course homeschooled children will be in some way socially 'deficient'. A lot depends on the way the parents handle it, so success of homeschooling is a case by case thing.

I think networking with other homeschoolers is very important. Parents should organise study/sports dates with them to take place at least once or twice a week. That way they do get to mix with other learning children who are at a similar age too, yet minus all the distractions and moral degeneration found in schools.
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cat eyes
12-09-2009, 07:09 PM
:sl:it would be something i would think about for my own kids. i remember my first day at school was painful :raging:
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cat eyes
12-09-2009, 07:38 PM
What about the psychological disorders that a kid might suffer from due to bullying at school? the amount of young kids now committing suicide, pregnancy, taking drugs, swaping emails with boys, spending all day long on the internet chatting with there mates from school etc the list is endless.


they are doing all these things as young as 10years old now maybe even younger.

kids are getting so advanced these days. due to bullying the child suffers from low self confidence becomes angry and ALSO ISOLATED and severe depression leading to one wanting to self harm and skipping school without there parents knowledge i know i did it many times.

and dating other boys sneaking out through there bedroom window spending half the night outside (i didn't do that);D but i know thats what kids do when they are under age and not allowed out
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Salahudeen
12-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Home schooling is good I'd rather do that than let kaffar educate my children. Or the alternative is send them to an Islamic school so they develope Islamic principles and have good role models as teachers.

The person who teaches your child and educates them has a big impact on his personality cos he begins looking upto that person so it's important that it's a person who's going to shape and condition your child in the way you want.

I'm not sure on this I could be wrong but I think it's haraam to let the kuffar educate your children. Especially when you have Islamic alternatives available.
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syilla
12-10-2009, 02:37 AM
home schooling needs to be committed, needs lots of resources, energy and time...and i respect all the mothers who doing it 100%... full time.

I've tried...and it easy to say than done huhu
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Beardo
12-10-2009, 06:23 AM
^ Most definitely. I admire my mom for her amazing efforts. May Allah Ta'ala reward her manifolds for that.

You can always ask her for advice or ask her to join this thread. Her username is UmmRashad
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tango92
12-10-2009, 06:26 AM
i would not recommend home schooling because school is about so much more than just education, kids learn so much from the input of their class fellows, not to mention educational trips, sports, becoming responsible, learning to help one another, establishing life long relationships.
im sure you remember having that one teacher you hated or getting into trouble for no good reason, these are experiences one looks back and laughs on in later life.

if your really concerned about their education then, like any other parent, do homework with them.
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Beardo
12-10-2009, 06:29 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by tango92
i would not recommend home schooling because school is about so much more than just education, kids learn so much from the input of their class fellows, not to mention educational trips, sports, becoming responsible, learning to help one another, establishing life long relationships.
im sure you remember having that one teacher you hated or getting into trouble for no good reason, these are experiences one looks back and laughs on in later life.

if your really concerned about their education then, like any other parent, do homework with them.
That's an agreeable argument.

However, I say you send your children to public school for elementary, just for tasting and learning purposes of the real world. Perhaps ONE year of high school. Or an all boys or all girls college, etc?

There are many facilities available. It just depends as to how thirsty you are for it.
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tango92
12-10-2009, 06:36 AM
^ yh definitely no mixed schools at least when they get to high school
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