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al Amaanah
02-02-2010, 06:16 PM
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Why do some people accept and some unaccept the celebration of the Prophet? What is your opinion?

Praise be to Allaah.

There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam). The Prophet himself (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (3alayhi salaam). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al Bukhaari).

What has been reported is that the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).

Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (radiyAllaho 3anhumaa) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.

Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al Hasan al Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al Bukhaari, Muslim and al Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al Nisaa’i).

We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

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Shaykh Muhammad Salih Al Munajjid
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unitedmuslim73
02-07-2010, 05:51 PM
What about Burda shareef??

i mean naat shareef, Should it be recited if prophet did not do so??
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Muhammad
02-07-2010, 05:55 PM
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What is Burda Shareef - is it the same as Qasidah Burdah?
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unitedmuslim73
02-07-2010, 06:13 PM
yeah...it is the same one...
so whats the opinion about it because many reject it, yet others accept it?
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Muhammad
02-08-2010, 04:37 PM
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See this link: http://www.madeenah.com/article.cfm?id=1257

There's also a discussion about it on another forum:

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=163
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al Amaanah
02-08-2010, 06:11 PM
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^ jazaak Allaho khayr.

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brotherubaid
02-10-2010, 01:38 PM
Burdah shareef , or qasidah burdah is full of shirk , may Allah save u s, jazakAllah khair for sharing this , i will InshahAllah add a link of a beautiful n short debate between al albani n some one who aproved of milaad.

May Allah save us from innovations
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brotherubaid
02-10-2010, 01:53 PM
A Dialogue Between Shaikh al-Albanee
And One Who Approves Of The Mawlid


Shaikh al-Albanee: The celebration of Mawlid an-Nabawi is it Khayr (good) or
evil?

The opponent: Khayr.

Shaikh al-Albanee: So, were the Messenger of Allah and his Sahabah unaware of
this Khayr (good)?

The opponent: No.

Shaikh al-Albanee: I am not convinced with your saying, 'No' because it is
impossible that this Khayr if it is Khayr - be concealed from the Prophet
(sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) and his Sahabah because we do not know Islam and
Eeman except through Prophet Muhammad (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam). So, how
do we know a Khayr (deed) that he did not know of? This is impossible.


The opponent: Establishing Mawlid an-Nabawi is reviving his (sallalalhu alaihi wasallam)
memories and is a tribute to him (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam).


Shaikh al-Albanee: This is a philosophy that we know of, and have heard from
many and read in their books, but when Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wasallam)
invited the people (to the Deen of Allah), did he call them to Islam as a
whole or he invited them to Tawheed?


The opponent: Tawheed.


Shaikh al-Albanee: First, he invited them to Tawheed, next the Salaat was made
obligatory, then Siyam, later the obligation of Hajj, and so on. So, you follow this
Sunnah of the Sharee'ah, (and discuss the matter) step-by-step.
We have now agreed that it is impossible that there could be a Khayr with us
which the Prophet (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) did not know of.
(Because) we know all the Khayr through the Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wasallam).…
and I believe that anyone, who doubts in this matter, is not a Muslim.
From the Ahadeeth of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) that support
this statement is, 'There is nothing that will take you closer to Paradise but that I
have enjoined it upon you, and there is nothing that will take you closer to Hell
but that I have warned you of it.' [Musnad ash-Shafa'ee and others]
So, if Mawlid was Khayr and something that could bring us closer to Allah, then
Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) would have guided us to it. Right
or wrong?
I don't want you to agree with me except if you are convinced of every word I
say. You have complete freedom to say, 'Please, I do not agree with this point.'
So, do you stop at some point from what I have just said, or are you with me
completely?

The opponent: I am with you totally.

Shaikh al-Albanee: Jazak Allah Khair.

We say to everybody who approves of this celebration; (if) Mawlid is Khayr in
your opinion - so, did the Messenger of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) guide
us to it or did he not.
If they say, 'He guided us to it'
We say to them, 'Produce your Proof (Burhaan) if you are truthful.' [Soorah al-
Baqarah (2): 11] and they can never bring a proof of it. We have read books of
Ulwi and others on this issue and they have no proof or argument except
(saying), 'This is a Bidah Husna (a good innovation)!!' 'This is a Bidah Husna!'
Everybody; those who approve of Mawlid and those who forbid it, are agreed
upon that this (celebration of) Mawlid did not exist at the time of Allah's
Messenger nor at the time of the Sahabah…

However, the supporters of Mawlid say, 'What is (evil) in Mawlid? It is
remembering the Prophet (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam), sending blessing upon him
and similar acts.'

We say, 'If it was Khayr, there would have been precedence in it (by the Salaf as-
Salih). You know the Hadeeth of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam),
'The best of my ummah is my generation, then those who come after them, then
those who come after them.' This is an agreed upon Hadeeth.
His (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) generation was in which he (sallalalhu alaihi wasallam)
and Sahabah lived, then those who followed them were the Tabi'oon, and
then those who followed them were the followers of Tabi'oon. This again is an
agreed upon matter.
So, do you think that there could be any Khayr in which we could excel them in
terms of knowledge and actions? Is it possible?

The opponent: Concerning knowledge - if the Messenger had informed someone
at his time that the earth rotates.


Shaikh al-Albanee: Please no divergence (from the main issue of discussion).
I asked you about two things; knowledge and action.
As a matter of fact, this divergence of yours has been helpful to me.
So, (to say in a more clear way), I mean (my question is) in terms of the
Sharee'ah knowledge and actions not (the knowledge of) medicine for example.
The doctor today is more knowledgeable than Ibn Seena in his age because he
was born after a long time and many many experiments (were) carried out
(during this period) but this does not increase him (in status) before Allah nor
does he achieve precedence over the best generations. Rather he possesses a
superior status in the field of knowledge he possesses.
We are however, speaking about the Sharee'ah knowledge Barak Allah Feek (May
Allah bless you). So, you have to keep this in mind - when I tell you, do we
believe that we can be more knowledgeable, it refers to the Sharee'ah knowledge
not the experimental knowledge like Geography, Astronomy, Chemistry and
Physics. Consider for example, in this time of ours a disbeliever in Allah and the
Messenger is the more knowledgeable than the other people in these secular
sciences - does this bring him closer to Allah?


The opponent: No

Shaikh al-Albanee: So, now we are not talking in terms of this (worldly)
knowledge but we are speaking about knowledge with which we seek to be closer
to Allah, and just a little while ago, we were speaking about the celebration of
Mawlid.

The question again is and please reply openly without another divergence.
Do you think with the mind and intellect bestowed upon you (by Allah) that it is
possible for us, in this later time to be more knowledgeable than the Sahabah and
the Taba'een with regards to the Sharee'ah knowledge and be hastier in
performing actions and that we be closer to Allah than the Salaf as-Salih?


The opponent: Do you mean the Tafseer of the Qur'aan by the knowledge of the
Sharee'ah?


Shaikh al-Albanee: They are more knowledgeable than us in Tafseer; they are
more knowledgeable than us in the Ahadeeth of Allah's Messenger, consequently
they are more knowledgeable than us in the Sharee'ah of Islam.


The opponent: Concerning the Tafseer of the Qur'aan, perhaps, today in our time
(we are more knowledgeable), for example the Qur'aanic verse, 'And you will see
the mountains and think them solid, but they shall pass away as the passing
away of the clouds. The Work of Allah, Who perfected all things, verily! He is
Well-Acquainted with what you do. [(27): 88]
If the Messenger of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) had informed someone in
his time that the earth rotates, would he have believed him? Nobody would have
believed him.


Shaikh al-Albanee: Do you want us to write down another divergence in your
record. Brother, I am asking about the totality and not some part, we are asking
a common question; Who is more knowledgeable as a whole about Islam?

The opponent: Obviously Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) and his
Sahabah.



Shaikh al-Albanee: This is (the answer) we want from you Barak Allah Feek
The Tafseer, which you keep repeating, has no relation with actions, it relates to
thinking and intellect. Those who mention this verse in order to conclude that the
earth rotates are mistaken because the verse relates to the Day of Judgment, ‘On
the Day when the earth will be changed to another earth and so will be the
heavens, and they (all creatures) will appear before Allah, the One, the
Irresistible.’ [Soorah Ibraheem (14): 48] (However,) We are not discussing this
subject.

I accept that that the later people are more knowledgeable about secular
sciences; more than the Sahabah and the Taba'een and others, but this has no
relation with righteous actions. For example, today the disbelievers are more
knowledgeable in the sciences of astronomy but will it benefit them in any way?
No So, we don't have to plunge into this subject, we are to speak about
everything that brings us closer to Allah, and we have to discuss about Mawlid
an-Nabawi.
So, we have agreed that if there was any Khayr then the Salaf as-Salih and at
their head Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) would have been more knowledgeable about it than us and hasty in performing that action. Is there any
doubt in it?


The opponent: No, no doubt.


Shaikh al-Albanee: Do not restrict this to experimental sciences it has nothing to
do with closeness to Allah or righteous deeds.

So, Mawlid was non-existent during the time of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu
alaihi wa-sallam) - as agreed upon by everybody. So, this Khayr was non-existent
during the time of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam), his Sahabah,
Taba'een and the Imams. How could this Khayr be concealed from them?
We have to say one of the two things;
They knew this Khayr like we know, they were more knowledgeable than us,
or they did not know this Khayr; then how did we know it?
So, if we say, they knew - and this saying is more in favor of those who approve
the celebration of Mawlid - so, why did they not act upon it? Are we closer to
Allah then they were?!
Why did not even one of them perform this act; a Sahabi or a Taba'ee or a
knowledgeable or a common person?

Does it suit your mind that nobody ever acted upon this Khayr? And they were in
millions, they were more knowledgeable than us, righteous than us and closer to
Allah than us?


You know the saying of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam), 'Do not
revile my companions. By (Allah) in Whose Hand my soul is, if any one of you
spends gold (piled up) like (mount) Uhud it will not equal a pint of any one of
them, nor its half
.' [Agreed upon]

Do you see the difference between them and us?

They struggled in the path of Allah with Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wasallam)
and took the knowledge 'gaddan taryan' (fresh and anew) without these
many mediums that are between us and the Prophet (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam)
as Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) pointed towards a similar
meaning in the Saheeh Hadeeth, 'Whoever wants to read the Quran as gaddan
taryan as when it was revealed, then let him read according to the recitation of
Ibn Umm Abd.' Meaning Abdullah ibn Mas'ood - 'gaddan taryan' means fresh and
anew

These Salaf as-Salih and at the head of them the Sahabah (radiallahuanhum) -
we cannot imagine that they were ignorant of something that would bring them
closer to Allah and we know of it. And if we say that they knew it like we know
then we cannot imagine that they ignored this Khayr.
Insha'Allah, this issue has been made clear to you after I have repeatedly
mentioned it.

The opponent: al-Hamdulillah.

Shaikh al-Albanee: Jazak Allah Khair

One more thing, there are numerous verses and Ahadeeth, which explain that
Islam has been completed/perfected. And I believe you are well-aware of this and firmly believe in it; an Alim (scholar) and a common man both know this truth
that Islam is complete and it is not like the religion of the Jews and Christians in
which there is alteration and modification every day. And I remind you of the
Saying of Allah, ‘This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my
Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion
.’ [Soorah al-
Maidah (5):3]

So here comes the question and this is another way to prove that the celebration
of Mawlid is not Khayr different from the previous point in which we established
and agreed that if Mawlid was Khayr then it would have surely been performed by
those who have passed before us i.e., the Salaf as-Salih - those who were more
knowledgeable and righteous.



If the celebration of Mawlid was Khayr then it would have been from Islam.
So, are we all; those who approve of the celebration of Mawlid and those who
disapprove of it - agreed upon like our agreement before that the celebration of
Mawlid was non-existent during the time of Allah's Messenger?
A
re we agreed upon now that if the celebration of Mawlid was Khayr then it would
have been from Islam and if it was not Khayr then it is not from Islam?
T
he day when the following verse, ‘This day I have perfected your religion for
you, completed my Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your
religion.’ [Soorah al-Maidah (5):3] when this verse was revealed, there was no
celebration of Mawlid. So do you think the Deen would have been complete
(without this celebration of Tawheed)?

Please be frank with me, do not think of me as those scholars who quite their
students and common people saying, 'Be quite, you do not know and you don't
understand.'


No, use your freedom to speak as if you were speaking to a person of your age
and knowledge. If you are not convinced say, 'I am not convinced.'
So, if the celebration of Mawlid was Khayr then it would have been from Islam,
and if it was not Khayr then it would not have been from Islam and we are
agreed upon that Mawlid was non-existent when this verse was revealed.
I base my argument upon the saying of Malik Ibn Anas, who said, 'He, who
innovates in the religion of Islam a Bidah - notice that he says one Bidah and not
many Bidah - and he considers it to be Khayr then he has maligned the
Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) that he betrayed
(i.e., did not completely convey) the Message.'


This is a dangerous matter. What is the proof, O Imam?

Imam Malik said, 'Read if you wish, ‘This day I have perfected your religion for
you, completed my Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your
religion.’ [Soorah al-Maidah (5):3]


So, something that was not from the Deen that day, is not from the Deen today.'

When did Imam Malik make this statement?

In the second century after Hijrah, one of the generations that was promised
goodness. So, how about the fourteenth century?!


This statement should be written with letters of gold. But we are ignorant of the Book of Allah and the Ahadeeth of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam),
and from the saying of the scholars whom we claim to follow, between their
example and ours is a distance equal to the distance between east and west.
Imam Malik speaks in clear Arabic, 'something that was not from the Deen that
day, is not from the Deen today'


If it was not so then there would have been no controversy or dispute among the
scholars who adhere to the Sunnah and those who defend the Bidah.
So, how can this be from the Deen, when it was not so during the time of Allah's
Messenger, the Sahabah, the Taba'een and their followers?!



Imam Malik was from the followers of the Taba'een and was included in the
Hadeeth, ‘The best of my ummah is my generation, then those who come after
them, then those who come after them.' [Agreed upon]


Imam Malik said, 'The affairs of the later part of this ummah can never be
corrected except with that which corrected the affairs of the early generations of
this Ummah.' With what were the first part of the Ummah corrected?
By innovating in the religion and (seeking to) achieve closeness to Allah with that
which Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) did not prescribed??!


Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'There is nothing that will
take you closer to Paradise but that I have enjoined it upon you, and there is
nothing that will take you closer to Hell but that I have warned you from it.'
[Musnad ash-Shafa'ee]


Why did Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) did not order us with the
celebration of Mawlid?



This is a question and it has an answer, (because) There exists a legislated
celebration of Mawlid an-Nabawi in contrast to the unlegislated celebration of
Mawlid an-Nabawi.

The legislated celebration existed during the time of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu
alaihi wa-sallam) in contrast to the unlegislated one.
There are two big differences between these two celebrations;

1) The legislated celebration is a form of worship and is agreed upon by all the
Muslims (in contrast to the unlegislated one, which is neither legislated nor a
worship and is not agreed upon by all Muslims)

2) The legislated celebration comes once every week and their celebration of
Mawlid comes once a year.

I do not say this without a proof, I will relate to you a Hadeeth from Saheeh
Muslim,

Abi Qatadah al-Ansaree related, ‘There came a man to Allah's Messenger
(sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) and said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, why do you fast on
Mondays?’ He (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) replied, ‘That is the day on which I was
born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first
given Revelation.' [Saheeh Muslim]



What is the meaning of this statement?


As if he (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) is saying, why do you ask me this while on this day Allah gave me life and revealed the Qur'aan upon me?! Which means
that it is required to fast on Mondays as a gratitude to Allah for His creating me
and revelation of the Wahy on this day.


And this is similar to the fast of Aashoorah, know that the fast of Aashoorah was
made obligatory upon every Muslim before the month of Ramadaan.
It has been related in the Ahadeeth that when Allah's Messenger migrated to al-
Medina, he found the Jews fasting the day of Aashoorah and inquired about it.
They replied saying this is the day when Allah saved Moosa and his people from
Fir'awn and his army. So we fast on this day in thankfulness to Him. Allah's
Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'We have more right upon him than
you.' So, he fasted and ordered fasting on this day and it was made obligatory
until Allah revealed this verse, ‘The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the
Qur'aan, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and criterion
(between right and wrong).' [Soorah al-Baqarah (2): 185]
And the obligation of fasting on the day of Aashoorah was abrogated and it
became a Sunnah.


It is evident from this that Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam)
participated with the Jews in their fasting on the day of Aashoorah in thankfulness
to Allah for saving Moosa from Fir'awn. So, even for us the door of Shukr
(thankfulness) has been opened in the form of fasting on Mondays because it is
the day when Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) was born and on this
day the Wahy (revelation) came down upon him.


Now I ask, 'These people who celebrate Mawlid, do they fast on Mondays?'

No, they do not fast on Mondays. But most of the people celebrate Mawlid an-
Nabawi every year! Is this not altering the facts?

For these people, the following verse is true with regards to Jews (alone), ‘Would
you exchange that which is better for that which is lower?’ [(2): 61]


This is Khayr; the fast which is agreed upon by all the Muslims, and it is the fast
on Mondays while majority of the Muslims do not fast this day!!
There are a very few people who fast on these days. So, do they know the reason
behind this fast? No, they don't.


So, where are the scholars who defend Mawlid, why don't they enlighten the
people that fasting on Monday is the legislated celebration of Mawlid (i.e.,
birthday of Allah's Messenger)? And why don't they encourage the people to it
instead of defending the unlegislated celebration?


Allah truly Says, ‘Would you exchange that which is better for that which is
lower?’ [(2): 61]


And the Messenger truly said, 'They will follow the ways of those who came
before them, handspan by handspan, cubit by cubit, until even if they entered a
lizard's hole they will follow them.’ We said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean)
the Jews and Christians?’ He said, ‘Who else?’ [Agreed upon]
So, we have followed in the footsteps of the Jews, they chose that which was less
over that which was Khayr, like we have chosen the celebration of Mawlid an-
Nabawi that comes once a year and is baseless - over the Khayr i.e., celebration
(of Mawlid an-Nabawi) every Monday.

This is a legislated practice that you fast
while keeping in mind the motive behind it which is being thankful to Allah for His
creation of Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) on this day and revelation of Wahy…

The opponent: Isn't reading the Seerah (biography) of Allah's Messenger an act
of honoring him?


Shaikh al-Albanee: Yes
T
he opponent: In it is reward - this is Khayr from Allah.

Shaikh al-Albanee: All of it is Khayr, there is no benefit (for your stance) in this
question so I interrupt you with a question, 'Does anybody stop you from reading
his (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) Seerah?’

Let me ask you a question, ‘If there was a legislated worship, but Allah's
Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) did not assign a specific time or specific
manner for it. Is it allowed for us to set a specific time and manner for it from
ourselves? Do you have an answer?’


The opponent: No, I don't have an answer.


Shaikh al-Albanee: Allah says, 'Or have they partners with Allah, who have
instituted for them a religion which Allah has not allowed.' [Soorah Shurah (42):
21]


Similarly, Allah says, They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their
monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they
made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by
Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam, while they
(Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurah and the Injeel) to worship
none but One Ilah (Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshiped
but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners
they associate (with Him).' [Soorah Tawbah (9): 31]
Narrated Adee Ibn Hatim t that he heard the Prophet of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi
wa-sallam) reciting the verse: (above verse), he (Hatim) said 'We didn't worship
them.’ The Messenger of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam), ‘Did they not make
Haraam what Allah made Halaal and you all made it Haraam, and they made
Halaal what Allah made Haraam and you all made it Haraam?’ He replied,
‘Certainly.’ The Prophet of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, ‘That is your
worship to them.’ [at-Tirmidhee, vol. 3, p. 56. no. 247]
This shows the danger of innovating in the Deen of Allah.
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al Amaanah
02-10-2010, 03:42 PM
:salamext:

^ jazaak Allaho khayr.

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Banu_Hashim
02-10-2010, 03:44 PM
salaam,

BarakAllahu Feek sister Al amaanah. Is this from islamqa.com? Could you provide your source please?
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Muslim Woman
02-10-2010, 04:14 PM
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I read hadith where it's said that Prophet pbuh used to fast on Monday because he was born on that day. Allah says in Quran to send darud on Prophet pbuh.

If we remember the honourable birth of the last Prophet pbuh by sending darud on him , fasting , Quran recitiation , giving charity , feeding orphans ...how these can be considered as bad deeds ?
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brotherubaid
02-10-2010, 06:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
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I read hadith where it's said that Prophet pbuh used to fast on Monday because he was born on that day. Allah says in Quran to send darud on Prophet pbuh.

If we remember the honourable birth of the last Prophet pbuh by sending darud on him , fasting , Quran recitiation , giving charity , feeding orphans ...how these can be considered as bad deeds ?
Sister we should do those deeds u mentioned like fasting on monday on every monday not just on the 12th of rabi al awwal

we should give charity all year long when ever we have the means not just on that day

we should send daroud on him everyday n all te time n when ever we hear his name sala lahu alihi wa sallam not on just that day

please please read my post about the dialouge between al albani n the one who approves of mawlid n InshahAllah most of ur questions will be answered , it is a little long but InshahAllah u will benefit.

The deeds u mentioned are not bad deeds at all , but in Islam when we specify a day n a time for an act of worship without an order or legislation from Allah n his messenger sala lahu alihi wa sallam its considered an innovation , it has to have the seal of approval of the prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam for it tpo be legislated, no one else has the power or authority to add to this religion things that the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam did not order us to do , nor did his sahaba ( whom loved him the most out of all creation till end of time) nor did those who folowed them.


N as far as the mawlids of india/pak/bangladesh go , where ALL things that were made haram by the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam are made halal , Like for example Music n singing n dancing , n men wearing silk , n men n women gatherring together , n congregational dhikrs n THEN THEY CLAIM THAT THE PROPHET HAS ARRIVED N HE IS IN THEER WITH THEM IN THAT ROOM OR PLACE OR THAT MASJID , then know that there cannot be any one more misguided then such people , who think the prophet will come to visit them while they are doing ALL the thinsg that he has prohibited.

The prophet does not visit these mawlids at All , if he does , bring ur evidec e, If he does then how come he never visited is companions n their followers n all , but he visits pakistan n india!????

inna lilla wa inna ilyahi rajioun

Bring the evidence where the prohet said , gather in mosques n say HU HU HU HU HU HUH UH !! n i will come there to visit u , astaghfirullah


Please read my post n see if it makes any sense n do bring ur evidence for mawlids being lefgislated by ALlah n his meddenger , n if u cannot find any evidence know that it is a bidah n doing it n celebrating it wil only bring u closer to hell fire n Allah Ul Mustaaan!!
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al Amaanah
02-10-2010, 09:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Banu_Hashim
salaam,

BarakAllahu Feek sister Al amaanah. Is this from islamqa.com? Could you provide your source please?
:salamext:

it said IslamQA on the bottom of the fatwa akh, ameen wa feeka baarak Allah.

:w:
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al Amaanah
02-10-2010, 10:04 PM
:salamext:
What is the significance of the Prophet's Birthday and when and how is it celebrated?

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly, Muhammad (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) is the Messenger of Allaah to all of mankind, the one through whom Allaah leads people from darkness into light, from misguidance to guidance. Please see question no. 11575. Perhaps this question is the start of your research into the religion of Islam and your attempt to learn more and read widely about it. Try to find a translation of the meanings of the Qur’aan so that you can learn more about this pure monotheistic religion. No doubt our joy will be multiplied if you become our sister in Islam by entering this religion.

Secondly, acts of worship in Islam are based on an important principle, which is that no one is permitted to worship Allaah in any way except that which Allaah has prescribed in his Book or which was taught by His Messenger Muhammad (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam). Whoever worships Allaah by doing something that Allaah and His Messenger have not enjoined, Allaah will not accept that from him. The Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) told us of that, as it was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (radiyAllaho 3anhaa) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: ‘Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours [i.e., Islam] that is not part of it will have it rejected.’” (Narrated by al Bukhaari, Kitaab al Sulh, 2499).

Acts of worship include festivals. Allaah has prescribed two festivals or Eids for us to celebrate, and it is not permissible for us to celebrate any others. (Please see question no. 486).

With regard to celebrating the day on which the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) was born, it should be noted that he (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) did not tell us to celebrate this day, and he himself (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) did not celebrate it, nor did his companions (radiyAllaho 3anhumaa). They loved the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) far more than we do, yet despite that they did not celebrate this day. Hence we do not celebrate this day, in obedience to the command of Allaah Who has commanded us to follow the commands of His Prophet. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad) gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)” [al Hashr 59:7]

And the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “I urge you to adhere to my Sunnah [way] and the way of the Rightly-Guided khaleefahs. Adhere to it and cling tightly to it. And beware of newly-invented matters [in religion], for every newly-invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is a going-astray.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, al Sunnah, 3991; classed as saheeh by al Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, no. 3851).

The extent to which a person loves the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) is to be seen in how he follows him with regard to all that he commanded or forbade. That includes following him in not celebrating the day on which he was born. See question no. 5219, 10070.

Whoever wants to venerate the day on which the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) was born should follow the alternative that is based on Islamic evidence, which is that one should fast on Mondays, not just the day that he was born but every Monday.

It was narrated from Abu Qutaadah al Ansaari (radiyAllaho 3anh) that the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) was asked about fasting on Mondays. He said, “On that day I was born and on that day the Revelation came to me.” (Narrated by Muslim, 1978). On Thursdays deeds are taken up and shown to Allaah.

Conclusion: celebrating the Prophet’s birthday was not prescribed by Allaah or by the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam), so it is not permissible for the Muslims to celebrate his birthday, in obedience to the command of Allaah and the command of His Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam).

We ask Allaah to guide you to the Straight Path.

And Allaah knows best.

IslamQA

Shaykh Muhammad Salih Al Munajjid
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Muslim Woman
02-11-2010, 01:23 AM
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format_quote Originally Posted by brotherubaid
...mawlids of india/pak/bangladesh .... THEY CLAIM THAT THE PROPHET HAS ARRIVED N HE IS IN THEER WITH THEM IN THAT ROOM OR PLACE OR THAT MASJID !

some people do believe that Prophet pbuh is alive in his grave and visits those who recite darud , but this is a different topic. If we can fast on each monday , then why oppose fasting on 12 Rabiual Awal ? If we can offer extra salat through out the whole yr, why not thank Allah on the day He sent His mercy to us ?

There is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat , charity on 12 Rabiual Awal according to Quran and Sunnah. So , if one does not want to do anything extra on that day , it's ok but why oppose ? Yes , we should be careful about not worshipping the Prophet pbuh but thanking Allah on the special day through halal activities , what's the problem ?



related link:

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), says that the day he was born was a special day. Since it is well known from the Shari`ah that Muslims should seize the opportunity in blessed days and do good deeds, Muslims should celebrate the Prophet's birthday so as to thank Allah for guiding them to Islam through Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

Therefore, celebrating the Prophet's birthday is permissible provided that it does not include committing any of the prohibited things.


.....My opinion is that celebrating such a religious occasion is recommended especially nowadays for youth have become forgetful of these religious occasions and their significance because they have indulged in other celebrations.

Celebrating such a great event should be done through reading more about the Prophet's Sunnah and life, building mosques, religious institutes and doing other forms of charity work that remind people of the Prophet's life and his struggle.

Therefore, it is permissible to celebrate the Prophet's birthday as an expression of our love to him and our endeavor to follow him as an example provided that these celebrations do not involve any of the prohibited things. Some prohibited things are improper intermingling between men and women, behaving improperly at mosques and partaking in innovations such as worshiping at tombs and other things that violate the teachings of Islam. If such previously mentioned violations surpass the religious benefit realized from these celebrations, then they should be stopped in order to prevent harm and wrongdoing as indicated in the Shari`ah.


....celebrating the Prophet's birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam. Such an occasion is meant to remind people of how the Prophet lived.

Allah Almighty says: (Verily in the Messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the last Day, and remembereth Allah much.) (Al-Ahzab 33: 21)



Related Questions


- Fasting on the Prophet’s Birthday


- Muslim Women Celebrating the Prophet’s Birthday


Allah Almighty knows best.



Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...#ixzz0fBdyjmrO
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brotherubaid
02-11-2010, 10:06 AM
did u read my first post in this thread

if it is recomended , how come the sahaba n those who came after them untill 500 or 600 year aftter the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam passed away did not do any of the things u are mentioning on 12th rabi al awwal.

U clearly dodged most of what i said in my last post

tell me how is it alright to believe the prophet visists us ???? where is the proof?? that he visists such gatherings , how come he never visited his beloved sahaba??

second tell me how is it alright for such people to use the birthday of the prophet to make musc hala , and u should know the CLEAR impermisibilty of music in Islam and by the Prophets hadeeth yet we see all types of insturments being played , and OHH please dont come in n say beating the duff is alright , coz even if we do beliee beating the duff is alright then it would be limited to the duff notr the rest of the Instruments played and now even in your naats!!!

How is it alright for women to dress in their zeenah n clorful clothes n come out n sing and dance with the men

How is it alright for men to dance like women n wear silk n sing!!!??



And since u have started it

Now listen

listen what 12th rabi al awwal was to the ones close to the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam

we first of all , there is a differnece of opinion on the day the prophet was born
according to some narrations its the 9th and some its the 17th and some its the 12th

the most right one is the 9th , but lets put that aside , and believe that 12th was the day the prophet was born on , then know that it is the day the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam passed way on.


It was the darkest and most sad day in madeenahs history

The prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam left them on this day and passed away

Bilal refused to give adhaan radi allahu anhu n couldnot take it n left madeenah

Umer when he heared it from abu bakr mouth could not stand n fell down!!! his legs could not bear his weight any more


Fatimah radi allahu anha never smiled after that day ( and we are always seen smiling n distributing sweeeets!!)

Usman was in a state of shock n could not hear or talk

u wana know more???

U wana hear or read about the last days of the prophet sala lahu alihiwa salam n his last momenets n the day of his death n its aftermath???

so how can any muslim beat drums n play instruments n celebrate this day


This is ust what the lazy ones do , single out one day for fast , charity n good ddeeds n daroud , And even if they dont single it out , even if they specify it THERE HAS TO BE A DALEEEL , A PROOOF from quran n sunnah !!

How come the sahaba never did any of what we do on tis day today

Are we some how more knowledgable of the deen then them??

Please please read the post i posted about albani n the one who approved of mawlid it should answer some of ur questions.


N know that innovation is so dangerous , it could lead one to hell fire


n u knw what else innovatiosn do??

Do u love the prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam?? Do u wana drink from his haud al kauthar by his shareef hands?? do u??


well know that it was narrated in some authentic ahadeeth that on that day when the Prophet will with his own hands give the muslims a cup of al kawthar , which is whiter than milk n sweeter than honey n the one who will get to drink it will NEVER get thristy again!!

do u know who on that day will nopt get to dri n it n will be dnied by Alah n the Angels will repel them from the prophet n from reaching the haud ?

The inovators!!!

the prophet wil ask them sala lahu alihi wa sallam why are u stopping them they seem to be from my Ummah ( They have beards , marks of sujud , marks of wudu n other thinsg that show they are mulsim) The angels will replay they did one little mistake due to which they will be denied this drink today

They will say , u do not know which new mattters they introduced into the deen after u pased away oh messenger of Allah!!


So now the people and group that celebrates the mawlid , n claims the prphet visits them , n all sort of other superstitions n khurafaaat only have one excuse to what ever they have introduced to the deen , that is Its a Good Bidah good innovation , n the Prphet says EVEREY new matter is an Innovation , n ever innovation is a misguidance n every misguidance will lead to hell fire

so fear Allah , n leave such cults that worship graves n worship the prophet n have false believes about him with No evidence what so ever from quran n sunnah

n come to the pure quran n sunnah wuth no innovations n notthing taken away from it

and Billah Al Tawfeeq
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brotherubaid
02-11-2010, 10:14 AM
sister u said
some people do believe that Prophet pbuh is alive in his grave and visits those who recite darud , but this is a different topic.

I say where is the proof , n wel if we believe he is alive in his grave , n then all of a sudden he goes to a gathering of darud in india , does his grave become empty at that time??? what about the people at that time at the grave offering their salams , are they offering at am empty grave ?? n wel there ate thousands n millions of such gathering all over the world on that day , so how can the prophet be at ALL those gatherings at the same time?? Please be carfeul coz u dont wana give the attributes of Allah to the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam n commit major shirk !!


Sister
There is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat , charity on 12 Rabiual Awal according to Quran and Sunnah.

Where is ur Evidence from QURAN n SUNNAH?

u meantioned tehre is no bar , well please produce ur evidenc e, if u cannot then please repent n leave these cults

In ur links it also says we should BUILD msajid n other islamic centers on this day
"Celebrating such a great event should be done through reading more about the Prophet's Sunnah and life, building mosques, religious institutes and doing other forms of charity work that remind people of the Prophet's life and his struggle."

Wel i would like to see that , i would like to see a masjid built in ONE DAY , subhanAlah , cant u see the lame excuses of these people??? i would like to see an institue being built in one day subhanAlah

How can they claim that we should build masjids on such days ?? even with the help of jinns u would be able to build a masjid on that day.
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muslimsister1
02-11-2010, 10:27 AM
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Hope you all in good health, i know that when it is the birthday of our beloved Prophet Salallahu Alayhi Wassalam der is bayan n pray naat shareef and there is eating after in the mosque. Is this ok? cuz there is nothing untoward going on.

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Insaanah
02-11-2010, 10:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
some people do believe that Prophet pbuh is alive in his grave and visits those who recite darud , but this is a different topic. If we can fast on each monday , then why oppose fasting on 12 Rabiual Awal?
:sl: sister

Because rasoolullah :saws: never singled out his birthday for fasting, neither did his sahaabah, may Allah be pleased with them. If that had been a beneficial day for us to do so, they would have taught us that. Us celebrating it is like saying we know better than them and they forgot to teach us that part of our deen. Or rasoolullah :saws: would have said before his death, that after I depart, I want you to do extra worship and fast on my birthday, and treat it as another holy day, or another Eid, but he didn't, and if he :saws: didn't legislate it, then that makes it an innovation.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
If we can offer extra salat through out the whole yr, why not thank Allah on the day He sent His mercy to us ?
We should thank him on all days. There is no reason to single out one particular day.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
There is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat , charity on 12 Rabiual Awal according to Quran and Sunnah. So , if one does not want to do anything extra on that day , it's ok but why oppose ? Yes , we should be careful about not worshipping the Prophet pbuh but thanking Allah on the special day through halal activities , what's the problem ?
Ok. Also in the the hadeeth we have been told how many raka'ahs to pray for each salaat. eg four fardh for Dhuhr. Now suppose somebody says they want to pray six raka'ah fardh, as although it says four raka'ah in hadeeth, it doesn't say anywhere you cannot pray more than four, so if I pray six fardh, I am doing extra good thing therefore I will get more reward, therefore what's the problem? Or they say, I want to thank Allah for all He has done for me, therefore I will pray one extra raka'ah fardh wih maghrib. What's the problem with that?

Would you accept that? No. So why do we accept that we should make an extra holy day, that rasoolullah :saws: or sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them) never did? In the same way, that is also not acceptable. The best way to give thanks for the life of rasoolullah :saws: is not to thank or do extra acts of worship on one day of the year that he didn't legislate, rather to follow his sunnah and avoid anything that deviates from it to the best of our ability all the time.

Hope that makes it clearer sister.

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Muslim Woman
02-11-2010, 03:56 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by brotherubaid
sister u said
some people do believe that Prophet pbuh is alive in his grave and visits those who recite darud , but this is a different topic.

I say where is the proof ,

I dont' believe that Prophet pbuh visits them who recite darud .



Sister
There is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat , charity on 12 Rabiual Awal according to Quran and Sunnah.

Where is ur Evidence from QURAN n SUNNAH?

I said , there is no verse or hadith that say we can't fast on 12 Rabiual Awal. if there is any bar against it , then pl. show .
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Muslim Woman
02-11-2010, 04:13 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by Insane Insaan
:sl: sister

Because rasoolullah :saws: never singled out his birthday for fasting,

but he did . Prophet pbuh used to fast on Monday 'cause he was born on that day.
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Insaanah
02-11-2010, 05:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
I said , there is no verse or hadith that say we can't fast on 12 Rabiual Awal. if there is any bar against it , then pl. show .
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It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2550; Muslim, 1718.

Introducing anything into the deen, is anything the Prophet :saws: or the sahaabah (May Allah be pleased with them), did not teach us to do, but that people have introduced into the deen themselves thinking that they will get extra reward for it.

Fourthly:

It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Messenger of Allaah :saws: said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2550; Muslim, 1718.

According to a version narrated by Muslim (1718) he :saws: said: “Whoever does an action that is not in accordance with this matter of ours will have it rejected.”

Al-Faakihaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

I do not know of any basis for this mawlid in the Qur’aan or Sunnah, and there is no report that any of the scholars of this ummah, who are examples in matters of religion and adhere to the path of those who came before, did this. Rather it is an innovation (bid’ah)
If celebrating the Prophet’s birthday was prescribed, then the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have told his ummah of that, because he is the most sincere of people and there is no Prophet after him who could explain anything he did not speak about. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the Seal of the Prophets and he explained to the people what he had to explain of the truth, such as loving him and following his sharee’ah, sending blessings and salaams upon him and other rights of his that are explained in the Qur’aan and Sunnah. He did not tell his ummah that celebrating the day of his birth was something prescribed so that they would do that. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do that during his lifetime and his companions (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who were the dearest of people to him and the most knowledgeable of his rights did not celebrate that day, neither did the Rightly-Guided Caliphs or any others. Then those who followed them in truth of the best three generations did not celebrate this day either.

Do you think that all these people were ignorant of his rights or fell short with regard to them, until the later generations came and made up for this shortfall and made the truth complete? No, by Allaah. No wise man who understands the nature of the Sahaabah and how they followed the truth would say this. If you understand that the celebration of the Prophet’s birthday was unknown at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the time of his companions and the time of their earliest followers, you will realize that it is an innovation that has been introduced into the faith, and it is not permissible to do it, approve of it or advocate it, rather we must denounce it and warn people against it.

Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 6/318, 319
From: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/70317/prophets%20birthday

format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
but he did . Prophet pbuh used to fast on Monday 'cause he was born on that day.
He :saws: fasted every Monday, not just annually on the anniversary of the day he was born. He :saws: or his companions, did not single out that day for extra good deeds or acts of worship.

Celebrating the Prophet’s :saws: birthday (al-mawlid) is an innovation, and doing special acts of worship on this day such as saying tasbeeh and tahmeed, observing i’tikaaf, reading Qur’aan and fasting is an innovation...
Ref same link as above.
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Muslim Woman
02-12-2010, 02:25 AM
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IMAM SHAFI'S EXPLANATION OF THE ABOVE HADITH:

Kullu bida'tin daiala: "Every innovation is a misguidance"? Doesn't the term "every" include all innovations?" Such an objection stems from the misinterpretation of the term kull ("every") in the Hadith to be all encompassing without exception, whereas in Arabic it may mean "Nearly all" or "the vast majority."



ARE THERE GOOD OR BAD INNOVATIONS IN ISLAM?



Prophetic saying as stated in Sahih Muslim is known even to common Muslims, let alone scholars:

"He who inaugurates a good practice (sanna fil-islam sunnatun hasana) in Islam earns the reward of it, and of all who perform it after him, without diminishing their own rewards in the least. " Tirmizi, Page 92.

...
Those who call upon Bida'h (innovations):



For those who insist on scrutinizing Bida'h should rather pay more attention to Haram and major sins.

....Buying houses on mortgages (interest);
Holding Credit on credit cards;
Eating non halal meat and foods (MacDonald, KFC, etc.)
Disobedience to parents and ill treatment of either wife or husband;
Sending of children to Islamic school but not practicing Islam themselves
Calling other Muslim brothers Miskeen (poor) based upon nationality
Undue extravagance: Luxuries (Castles, Rolls Royces, Cadillacs etc);
Engaging in fraud and corruption
Celebrating own anniversaries and birthdays yet raise objection on Mawlid. Etc.

http://www.islamicacademy.org/html/A...in%20Islam.htm
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Muslim Woman
02-12-2010, 02:35 AM
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format_quote Originally Posted by brotherubaid
...In ur links it also says we should BUILD msajid n other islamic centers on this day ...even with the help of jinns u would be able to build a masjid on that day.
hmmm. may be , the scholar meant we should start the noble task on the day but it's not a must to finish on the particular day .

Also build masjid means trying to establish salat among Muslim community . Specially in the west , if Muslims try to do that , messages of Allah that we got through our beloved Prophet pbuh will be spread out and more non-Muslims will be able to know about the Truth.... a good work indeed. :statisfie

And Allah Knows Best.
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
02-12-2010, 02:58 AM
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One of the mountains of knowledge from amongst the early Muslims, Imaam Al-Awzaa’ee said:
“When Allaah desires evil for a people, He opens the door of argumentation for them and prevents them from (doing good) deeds.”
Please take some time to reflect upon this profound statement and instead of engaging in these useless arguments online, focus on what benefits you and gets you closer to Allaah.
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hanif_
02-12-2010, 03:29 AM
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Ukhti Muslim Woman:

Just take a breath! When time permits do not post until you review all the Dalil (Evidence) that was presented in this thread.

I have taken the time to read every post and researched the evidence presented. It is clear!

Don't allow emotions to allow you to adopt tunnel vision. We will be judged on our intentions. If a Muslim normally fasts on Monday and Thursday Allah knows their intention. But if this is done strictly to commemorate the birth of Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) this is another issue.

It takes a strong Muslim to accept when they have taken a wrong position and then corrected it. But to receive overwhelming evidence and continue on that course it becomes more of a problem.

33:36 (Y. Ali) It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.

Are you taken the position that Muslims should worry about major or minor sins? Bi'dah (Innovation) isn't minor.

Is this your position or were you just quoting ? We would not condone either action.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Those who call upon Bida'h (innovations):

For those who insist on scrutinizing Bida'h should rather pay more attention to Haram and major sins.

....Buying houses on mortgages (interest);
Holding Credit on credit cards;
Eating non halal meat and foods (MacDonald, KFC, etc.)
Disobedience to parents and ill treatment of either wife or husband;
Sending of children to Islamic school but not practicing Islam themselves
Calling other Muslim brothers Miskeen (poor) based upon nationality
Undue extravagance: Luxuries (Castles, Rolls Royces, Cadillacs etc);
Engaging in fraud and corruption
Celebrating own anniversaries and birthdays yet raise objection on Mawlid. Etc.
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ardianto
02-12-2010, 03:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
There is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat , charity on 12 Rabiual Awal according to Quran and Sunnah. So , if one does not want to do anything extra on that day , it's ok but why oppose ? Yes , we should be careful about not worshipping the Prophet pbuh but thanking Allah on the special day through halal activities , what's the problem ?
Yes, there is no bar against fasting and offering extra salat on 12 Rabiul Awal. However, if our niah (intention) is for welcoming/celebrate/memorize this date, it becomes bid'ah, because we add/make an innovation in ibadah.

....celebrating the Prophet's birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam.
Incorrect. The first message (surah Al-Alaq :1-5) was revealed on 17 Ramadan, when Rasulullah (saw) was 40.
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al Amaanah
02-12-2010, 08:14 PM
:salamext:

Is it permissible to eat food that is distributed on the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam)? Some people quote as evidence the idea that because Abu Lahb set free a slave woman on the birthday of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam), Allaah reduced the torment for him on that day.

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

There is no festival in Islamic sharee’ah that is called “The Prophet’s Birthday”. Neither the Sahaabah nor the Taabi’een nor the four imams nor anyone else recognized such a day as part of their religion. Rather this festival was introduced by some ignorant Baatini innovators, then the people began to follow this innovation but the imams have denounced it in every time and place.

We have discussed the objections to this innovation in detail on our site, in the answers to questions no. 10070, 13810 and 70317.

Secondly:

Based on this, everything that the people do specially for this day is regarded as haraam, innovated actions, because they intend thereby to keep alive a festival that has been introduced into our religion, such as holding parties, offering food and so on.

Shaykh al Fawzaan said in al Bayaan li Akhta’ ba’d al Kuttaab (268-270):

The commands in the Qur'aan and Sunnah to follow that which has been prescribed by Allaah and His Messenger and the prohibition against introducing innovations into the religion are well known. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): “If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur’aan and the Sunnah), Allaah will love you and forgive you your sins”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:31]

“[Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) to these idolaters (pagan Arabs) of your folk:] Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord (the Qur’aan and Prophet Muhammad’s Sunnah), and follow not any Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers who order you to associate partners in worship with Allaah), besides Him (Allaah). Little do you remember!”

[al A’raaf 7:3]

“And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path”

[al An’aam 6:153]

And the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” According to a version narrated by Muslim: “Whoever does any deed that is not part of this matter of ours will have it rejected.”

Among the innovations that people have introduced is celebration of the Prophet’s birthday (Mawlid) in the month of Rabee’ al Awwal. There are various ways in which they celebrate this occasion:

Some of them simply gather to read the story of his birth, or they listen to speeches and qaseedahs (odes) on this occasion.

Some of them make food and sweets etc, and offer them to the people who attend.

Some of them hold these celebrations in the mosques and some hold them in their houses.

Some of them do not limit themselves to what we have mentioned, rather their gatherings include haraam and evil things such as men mixing freely with women, dancing and music, or acts of shirk such as seeking the help of the Messenger (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) and calling upon him or seeking his support against their enemies, and so on.

Whatever kinds of celebrations they are and whatever form they take, they are undoubtedly bid’ah and haraam innovations that were introduced long after the time of the best generations.

The first one who introduced this innovation was Abu Sa’eed Kawkaboori, the king of Irbil, at the end of the sixth or beginning of the seventh century AH, as was mentioned by the historians such as Ibn Katheer, Ibn Khalqaan and others.

Abu Shaamah said: The first one who did that in Mosul was Shaykh ‘Umar ibn Muhammad al Mulla, one of the well known righteous men, and the ruler of Irbil and others followed his example.

Al Haafiz Ibn Katheer said in al Bidaayah (13-137), in his biography of Abu Sa’eed al Kawkaboori:

He did the Mawlid in Rabee’ al Awwal and celebrated it with a great celebration. … Then he said:

Al Sabt said: Some of those who attended the feast given by the king on some of the Mawlids said that this feast included five thousand roasted heads, ten thousand chickens, one hundred thousand bowls and thirty thousand plates of sweets. And the Sufis sang from Zuhr until Fajr, and he himself danced with them.
End quote.

Ibn Khalqaan said in Wafiyaat al A’yaan (3-274):

When the first of Safar came, they would adorn those domes with all kinds of fine adornments, and in every dome there was a group of singers and a group of puppeteers and musical players, and they did not leave any dome but they installed a group there. End quote.

But most of what these innovators do on this day is making food of various kinds and distributing it and inviting people to eat. If a Muslim joins in this action, eats their food and sits in their gatherings, then undoubtedly he is taking part in keeping the innovation alive, and is cooperating in it, and Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Help you one another in Al Birr and At Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allaah”

[al Maa’idah 5:2]

Hence the fatwas of the scholars state that it is haraam to eat food that is distributed on this day and on other innovated festivals.

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (ra7imahullah) was asked the following question in Majmoo’ al Fataawa (9/74):

What is the ruling on meat that is slaughtered for the Mawlid?

He (ra7imahullah) replied:

If it is slaughtered (as a sacrifice) to the one whose birthday is being celebrated, then it is major shirk, but it is slaughtered just to be eaten, there is nothing wrong with that. But it should not be eaten, and the Muslim should not attend (the feast), so as to denounce them in word and in deed, unless he attends in order to denounce them without joining them in eating or anything else.
End quote.

We have also quoted some fatwas concerning this previously. Please see the answers to questions no. 7051 and 9485.

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A

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Muslim Woman
02-13-2010, 03:26 PM
:sl:


It's sad to see how Muslims love to argue about religion . :cry:


It's really unfortunate to debate with my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters . imsad

May Allah guide those who have the wrong opinion , ameen.
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MSalman
02-13-2010, 03:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
:wa:
but he did . Prophet pbuh used to fast on Monday 'cause he was born on that day.
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sister, may Allah preserve you, my comments below are not directed to you but to those from whom you are taking.

when we read this hadith with other ahadith then we understand the whole context of fasting on monday. Did the Prophet (sal-allahu alayhi wa sallam) fasted on mondays once a year or whole year? The Prophet (sal-allahu alayhi wa sallam) also fasted on Thursdays, so was he born on two days? If this day was really meant to be as you want to take, why did Prophet (sal-allahu alayhi wa sallam) not make it clear to us rather he said there are only two days of celebration for you? Why is that this distorted understanding of this hadith never presented by the early scholars in support of celebrating milawd? Why no one from the Salaf celebrated milawd? Are you saying that we are more keen to earn reward and display our love for the Prophet (sal-allahu alayhi wa salam) than the Salaf? Why don't math-habis make taqleed of their imaams in this issue? Did any of the four imaams of 4 mathahab celebrate milawd? What happened to stiking to whatever imaams said?

The statement of Imam Malik (rahimahullah) is enough to refute any deviants out there; he said that whatever was not part of deen at their (sahabas) time will never be part of deen at our time.

Preserving our deen is an obligation upon us. Let us not help shaytan to destroying that preservation.

and Allah knows best

May Allah guide those who have the wrong opinion , ameen.
Allahuma Ameen; it is more befitting for a Muslim to say may Allah guide us all and keep on haqq, ameen.
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Insaanah
02-13-2010, 04:36 PM
:sl: sister,

format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
It's sad to see how Muslims love to argue about religion .
We are not arguing, we are merely trying to present you with the way of Rasoolullah :saws: and the sahasbah (may Allah be pleased with them). I am sorry if I have gone about it the wrong way, and if it has come across as arguing.

Culturally, in the Indian subcontinent. this festival is called Eid Milaadun Nabee. It is regarded as the third Eid, when Rasoolullah :saws: clearly told us we had only two Eids.

If you try to explain to someone who has observed Milaad un nabee all their life that it is wrong, it is hard for them to accept, because they see it as something good and as part of the deen, when it is not, but because they have seen that all around them, it's hard to accept.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
For those who insist on scrutinizing Bida'h should rather pay more attention to Haram and major sins.
....Buying houses on mortgages (interest);
Holding Credit on credit cards;
Eating non halal meat and foods (MacDonald, KFC, etc.)
Disobedience to parents and ill treatment of either wife or husband;
Sending of children to Islamic school but not practicing Islam themselves
Calling other Muslim brothers Miskeen (poor) based upon nationality
Undue extravagance: Luxuries (Castles, Rolls Royces, Cadillacs etc);
Engaging in fraud and corruption
Celebrating own anniversaries and birthdays yet raise objection on Mawlid. Etc.
I have highlighted one of your sentences above in bold. Bid'ah is major and worst, because it changes the deen. Eg, if anybody does the other sins you mentioned, even people who do it know it's wrong. But people who do Bid'ah don't accept that they're doing anything wrong. In fact they think they are doing something good. Those innovations then begin to form part of the deen, and there is a real risk that generations down the line, people will begin to accept it as part of Islam. That is why rooting out the bid'aat is important, to keep the deen how it was at the time of the Prophet :saws: and to not introduce new things ourselves that neither he nor his sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them) legislated for us as part of the deen.

We need to think, that although it won't happen, if Rasoolullah :saws: were to come back today, how much of the Islam we practice would he recognise as what he taught?

format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
May Allah guide those who have the wrong opinion , ameen.
I will not comment on your view that those who try to stick to the sunnah of the Prophet :saws: and the way of the sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them) have the wrong opinion.

However, what I will say, is, May Allah guide us all. Ameen. There is no human being on this earth who does not need guidance.

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Snowflake
02-13-2010, 06:23 PM
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We don't need to celebrate Mawlid to remind ourselves and others of the Prophet's (saw) coming to the world. Implementing the Quran and Sunnah in our lives are the best reminders. We should also remember him by sending darood upon the Prophet (saw) as Allah told us to and to do it in abundance every Friday. Not for one day of the year.


The Prophet (saw) did not celebrate the B'days of those beloved to him. It's true we should thank Allah for His bounties, but how many people fast on their own or the Prophet's B'day? How many parents fast on their children's B'days to thank Him for offspring? Rather they celebrate it the kuffar way.


If you love the Prophet (saw)then imitate him. Copy him in everything he did. From the moment he got up to when he slept. From the day he was given Prophethood until the day he (saw) died. he was an example of the best of mankind, sent for us to follow. So keep away from what he didn't do, because you may end up doing something that displeases Allah.


The prophet told us to avoid which is doubtful. Then even if you have good intentions for celebrating Mawlid, remember intentions are only rewarded if they are in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah. As for Mawlid, apart from the Prophet (saw) fasting on the day he was born, remember that the Prophet (saw) himself did not celebrate B'days of those dearly beloved to him, or advocate the celebrating of b'days for himself to his family or the sahaba. So if this isn't proof enough it should at least make the matter doubtful enough to leave it.



May Allah forgive me if I have said anything wrong. And Allah knows best.



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paradise88
02-16-2010, 06:32 PM
Asalaamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatu to readers.

I am aware it is the Prophets (pbuh) birth month. I know many people that celebrate it and i thought it was wrong to celebrate birthdays. Obviously we should make dua for our Prophet (pbuh) and remember him but is is write to hold big gatherings in mosques where 'sing' so to say. I dont mean singing exactly but when people recite but in a song form. I hope im making sense but i know alot of Pakistani brothers and sisters have a big do on our Prophets (pbuh) birthday and I just wanted to know more about it.

thank you wasalaam
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Insaanah
02-16-2010, 07:31 PM
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Rasoolullah :saws: or his sahaaba (may Allah be pleased with them) did not celebrate the prophet's birthday, nor do any extra acts of worship. It is not therefore, for us to innovate such a celebration.

Mawlid al-Nabi (the Prophet’s birthday)
Why some people accept and some unaccept the celebration of the prophet ?What is your opinion?

Praise be to Allaah.

There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).

Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.

Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).

We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.


Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
from: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/249/prophet%20birthday

Question: They choose a day on which to speak about the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) in the mosque and they call it a Mawlid
It is well known that celebrating the prophets birthday is an innovation, A lot of people have Mawlids, but not to celebrate the prophets birthday but to teach about the prophet his life and so on so forth. If the event is not taking place on the prophets birthday is it still considered haram? Is it just the use of the word mawlid that causes the event to be considered haram? for example if I were to teach about the prophets life etc... but not associate the word Mawlid to it would it still be considered haram? In the same event people would be fed etc... I ask this because a wedding dinner will be held in the upcoming weekend on Saturday and since there will be a gathering of people the hosts decided to teach about the prophet after the dinner in the masjid. They called it a mawlid but neither does it fall on the day the prophet was born nor used to celebrate the birth of the prophet but instead to teach about the prophet. They are doing this instead of having dancing etc... so that people would benefit more from learning about the life of the prophet. Please advise. Secondly, If I were to have a gathering at the mosque just to teach about the life of the prophet and provide food to those who attend would this be considered haram?.


Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

It is not prescribed to celebrate the birthday of anyone, whether Prophets or anyone else, because that is not narrated in sharee’ah. Rather it is something that has been taken from non-Muslims, such as the Jews, Christians and others.

See the answer to question number 10070 and 13810.

What is meant by celebrating birthdays here is celebrating on the day on which a person was born, such as celebrating the 12th of Rabee’ al-Awwal which some people believe is the day on which the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was born.

With regard to speaking about the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and teaching about him, mentioning his good qualities, virtues and Sunnahs, this is mustahabb and is prescribed at all times, and this is not called a Mawlid, just as celebrating a wedding is not called a Mawlid, but it is common in some Muslim countries to call every celebration that is done in an Islamically acceptable manner, with no dancing, music or mixing, a Mawlid, and they say: we will do a Mawlid on the wedding day or on the circumcision day, and a preacher comes to exhort the people, and a reader comes to read Qur'aan, and so on. There is no basis for giving it this name, and calling it by this name does not change the ruling concerning it. There is nothing wrong with people celebrating the wedding and having someone to address the people and exhort them and remind them of good, or speak about the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and mention his biography and good characteristics. This is prescribed in Islam, and does not come under the heading of celebrating the innovated Mawlid.

There is nothing wrong with holding activities or meetings in the mosque to teach people about the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), without singling out a particular day because of some belief in its virtue, such as the day of the Mawlid or the 15th of Sha’baan (al-nusf min Sha’baan) or the day of the Isra’ and Mi’raaj. Rather that should be done on any ordinary day. There is also nothing wrong with offering food to the people who attend, but it is important to publicise the ruling that this should not be called a Mawlid, and it does not come under the ruling on celebrating the Mawlid, so that no one will think that celebrating the Mawlid is prescribed in Islam.

We ask Allah to help you to act in accordance with the Sunnah of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and to propagate it among people.

And Allah knows best.
From: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/117651/prophet%20birthday

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EDIT: See also the following post: http://www.islamicboard.com/miscella...ml#post1291056
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paradise88
02-16-2010, 09:31 PM
Thank you! This has helped me alot actually
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AlbanianMuslim
02-16-2010, 10:24 PM
Which group celebrates his birthday? Is it the Shi'as? or some other sect?
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Uthman
02-16-2010, 10:35 PM
The Milaad – A Caution Against Innovation, By Imaam`Abdul `Aziz Ibn Baaz
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north_malaysian
02-17-2010, 04:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AlbanianMuslim
Which group celebrates his birthday? Is it the Shi'as? or some other sect?
Sunnis who practice Sufism celebrate it. In my country, there would be parades in cities... personally, I never celebrate it ... as it's a public holiday.. we just went picnic or watching documentaries about the prophet on the tv
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ardianto
02-17-2010, 04:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AlbanianMuslim
Which group celebrates his birthday? Is it the Shi'as? or some other sect?
Sunnis who practice Sufism celebrate it. In my country, there would be parades on cities... personally I never celebrate it ... as it's a public holiday.. we just went picnic or watching documentaries about the prophet on the tv


(I have the same answer with north_malaysian, but I hope there is no copyright on his statements, or I must pay royalty to him. ;D)
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paradise88
02-17-2010, 02:59 PM
what is Sufism? Can anyone tell me in the clearest concise way possible?
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al Amaanah
02-17-2010, 06:09 PM
:salamext:

^ read this insha Allah: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/4983

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north_malaysian
02-18-2010, 06:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Sunnis who practice Sufism celebrate it. In my country, there would be parades on cities... personally I never celebrate it ... as it's a public holiday.. we just went picnic or watching documentaries about the prophet on the tv


(I have the same answer with north_malaysian, but I hope there is no copyright on his statements, or I must pay royalty to him. ;D)
you have to give reps then... :p
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Muslim Woman
02-18-2010, 04:49 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by AlbanianMuslim
Which group celebrates his birthday? Is it the Shi'as? or some other sect?

In Bangladesh , most Muslims are Sunni ( and Not Sufis ) and we do celebrate Eid - e-Miladunnabi or Sirat un nabi.

People fast , recite Quran , give charity , arrange dua mahfil , some sing Hamd and Naat , discuss about the life of the Prophet pbuh and offer extra salat / nafal prayer .
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al Amaanah
02-20-2010, 06:04 PM
:salamext:

On every last Sunday of the month, we get together with a group of 30 or more sisters and each of us reads two or three hizb (portions of Qur’aan) until we complete the Holy Qur’aan in one and a half or two hours. We have been told that this will count – in sha Allaah – as a completion of the Qur’aan for each one of us. Is that correct? After that we make du’aa’ and ask Allaah to give the reward for our reading to the rest of the believers, living and dead. Will the reward reach the dead? They quote as evidence for that the words of our master Muhammad (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam): “When a man dies, all his good deeds come to an end except three: ongoing charity, beneficial knowledge or a righteous son who will pray for him.”

On the festival of the Prophet’s birthday (al mawlid al nabawi), they hold a ribaat (vigil) which starts at 10 a.m. and lasts until 3 p.m. They start with prayers for forgiveness, praise of Allaah, tasbeeh and takbeer, and sending blessings upon our master Muhammad (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) silently, then they read the Qur’aan, and some sisters fast on that day. Is singling out this day for all these acts of worship regarded as an innovation (bid’ah)? We also have a lengthy du’aa’ seeking blessing that we say at the time of suhoor, for those who are able to say it. It is called du’aa’ al raabitah. It starts by sending blessings and salaams upon our master Muhammad and his party and the other Prophets, and the Mothers of the Believers, and the female companions of the Prophet, the Rightly Guided Caliphs, the Taabi’een, and the righteous close friends (awliya’) of Allaah, mentioning each of them by name. Is it correct that mentioning all these names will make their owners recognize us and call out to us in Paradise? Is this du’aa’ an innovation? I feel that it is, but most of the sisters disagree with me. Will I be punished by Allaah if I am wrong? How can I convince them if I am correct? This matter is making me lose sleep and every time I remember the hadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) which says that every newly-invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is a going-astray, and every going-astray will be in the Fire, my worry and grief get even worse.


Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

In the saheeh Sunnah there are many reports which speak of the virtues of gathering to read the Book of Allaah, but in order for the Muslim to attain those rewards, he should ensure that the gathering is in accordance with sharee’ah. One of the prescribed ways in which people may gather to read Qur’aan is for the people gathered to read together for the purpose of study, learning the meanings and how to recite properly. Another kind of gathering that is prescribed is for each of them to read and the others to listen, so that they may ponder the meanings of the verses. Both are mentioned in the Sunnah of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam).

For more information please see question no. 22722, which explains the ruling on gathering to read the Qur’aan.

With regard to what each person reads being counted as a khatmah (complete reading of the Qur’aan) for each of them, this is not correct, because none of them has read the entire Qur’aan, or even listened to it, rather each of them has read a part of it, so they will only be rewarded for whatever they have read of the Qur’aan.

The scholars of the Standing Committee said:

Distributing ajza’ or parts of the Qur’aan to those who are present so that each one of them may read a hizb of the Qur’aan is not necessarily regarded as a khatmah or complete reading of the Qur’aan on the part of each one of them. End quote.

Fataawa al Lajnah al Daa’imah, 2/480

Secondly:

It is not prescribed to say du’aa’ together after reading Qur’aan, and it is not permissible to pray that the reward for the reading go to any of the dead or the living. Our Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) did not do that, and neither did any of his companions (radiyAllaho 3anhumaa).

Shaykh ‘Abd al ‘Azeez ibn Baaz (ra7imahullah) was asked:

Is it permissible for me to read the entire Qur’aan for my parents, knowing that they are illiterate and cannot read or write? Is it permissible for me to read the entire Qur’aan for a person who knows how to read and write, but I want to give this khatmah to him? Is it permissible for me to read the entire Qur’aan for more than one person?

He replied:

There is no report in the Holy Qur’aan or in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam), or from his companions (radiyAllaho 3anhumaa) to indicate that it is prescribed to give one's reading of Qur’aan (or the reward thereof) to one's parents or to anyone else. Rather Allaah has enjoined reading Qur’aan so that one may benefit from it, learn from it, ponder its meanings and act upon it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(This is) a Book (the Qur’aan) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings, that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember”

[Saad 38:29]

“Verily, this Qur’aan guides to that which is most just and right”

[al Isra’ 17:90]

“Say: It is for those who believe, a guide and a healing”

[Fussilat 41:44]

And our Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “Read the Qur’aan, for it will come as an intercessor for its companions.” And he (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “The Qur’aan will be brought on the Day of Resurrection along with its people who used to act upon it, preceded by Soorat al Baqarah and Aal ‘Imraan, like two clouds or two flocks of birds, spreading their wings, pleading on behalf of their companions (i.e., those who used to read them).”

The point is that it was revealed to be acted upon and pondered, to be read as an act of worship and read a great deal, not to be given to the dead or to anyone else. I do not know of any reliable basis for giving it to one’s parents or anyone else. The Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “Whoever does any action that is not in accordance with this matter of ours will have it rejected.” Some of the scholars are of the view that that is permissible, and they said: There is no reason why the reward for reading Qur’aan and other righteous actions cannot be given to others, and they liken that to the case of charity and du’aa’ for the deceased and others. But the correct view is the first view, because of the hadeeth quoted above, and other similar reports. If giving the reward for reading to another was permissible or prescribed, the righteous salaf would have done it. It is not permissible to make analogies with regard to acts of worship, because they can only be proven by a text from the Book of Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, or the Sunnah of His Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam), because of the hadeeth quoted above and other similar reports.

Majmoo’ Fataawa al Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 8/360, 361

With regard to their quoting the hadeeth, “When the son of Adam dies, all his good deeds come to an end…” this is not correct, rather if you think about it, you will see that the hadeeth indicates that it is not prescribed to give the reward for reading Qur’aan to the dead, because the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “A son who will pray for him,” not “who will read Qur’aan for him.”

Thirdly:

We should not write the letter (S) or abbreviations for the blessing upon the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam). If a person can write such a lengthy question, he is not incapable of writing the blessing upon the Prophet in full. We have already discussed the ruling on writing such abbreviations in the answer to question no. 47976.

Fourthly:

Celebrating the Prophet’s birthday (al mawlid) is an innovation, and doing special acts of worship on this day such as saying tasbeeh and tahmeed, observing i’tikaaf, reading Qur’aan and fasting is an innovation for which a person will not receive any reward, for these are all rejected.

It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (radiyAllaho 3anhaa) that the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” Narrated by al Bukhaari, 2550; Muslim, 1718.

According to a version narrated by Muslim (1718) he said: “Whoever does an action that is not in accordance with this matter of ours will have it rejected.”

Al Faakihaani (ra7imahullah) said:

I do not know of any basis for this mawlid in the Qur’aan or Sunnah, and there is no report that any of the scholars of this ummah, who are examples in matters of religion and adhere to the path of those who came before, did this. Rather it is an innovation (bid’ah) which was introduced by those who have nothing better to do, and it is a means for them to have fun and eat a lot.

Al Mawrid fi ‘Aml al Mawlid, quoted in Rasaa’il fi Hukm alIhtifaal bi’l Mawlid al Nabawi, 1/8, 9

Shaykh ‘Abd al ‘Azeez ibn Baaz (ra7imahullah) said:

If celebrating the Prophet’s birthday was prescribed, then the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) would have told his ummah of that, because he is the most sincere of people and there is no Prophet after him who could explain anything he did not speak about. He (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) is the Seal of the Prophets and he explained to the people what he had to explain of the truth, such as loving him and following his sharee’ah, sending blessings and salaams upon him and other rights of his that are explained in the Qur’aan and Sunnah. He did not tell his ummah that celebrating the day of his birth was something prescribed so that they would do that. He (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) did not do that during his lifetime and his companions (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) who were the dearest of people to him and the most knowledgeable of his rights did not celebrate that day, neither did the Rightly-Guided Caliphs or any others. Then those who followed them in truth of the best three generations did not celebrate this day either.

Do you think that all these people were ignorant of his rights or fell short with regard to them, until the later generations came and made up for this shortfall and made the truth complete? No, by Allaah. No wise man who understands the nature of the Sahaabah and how they followed the truth would say this. If you understand that the celebration of the Prophet’s birthday was unknown at the time of the Prophet (salla Allaho 3alayhi wasallam) and the time of his companions and the time of their earliest followers, you will realize that it is an innovation that has been introduced into the faith, and it is not permissible to do it, approve of it or advocate it, rather we must denounce it and warn people against it.


Majmoo’ Fataawa al Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 6/318, 319

Fifthly:

It is not permissible for anyone to make up a du’aa’ or dhikr and promulgate it among the people. The du’aa’ that is called du’aa’ al raabitah is an innovated du’aa’, and thinking of those who are being prayed for and believing that they will recognize the one who is praying for them and will call out to him in Paradise – all of that is Sufi myths and fables that have no basis in the religion of Allaah. The Islamic guidelines by means of which a person can distinguish between Sunnah and bid’ah, right and wrong, are clear. The basic principle with regard to acts of worship is that nothing is permitted unless there is evidence. We cannot seek to draw closer to Allaah by doing an act of worship unless there is evidence from the Qur’aan or saheeh Sunnah that it is prescribed. The basic principle for the Muslim is to follow and not to innovate, and innovations will be rejected. Allaah has completed this sharee’ah for us and has completed His blessing upon us, so what need do we have for such innovations to be part of our lives at the time when we are falling so far short with regard to that which is proven in sharee’ah?

For more information see the answer to questions no. 27237 and 6745

We hope that what we have mentioned is sufficient to make these sister refrain from their innovation. We advise them to fear Allaah and follow the Sunnah. They should remember that Allaah does not accept any innovated act of worship, no matter what efforts and wealth are expended on it. Being moderate in following the Sunnah is better than striving hard in following innovation, as the great Sahaabi ‘Abd Allaah ibn Mas’ood (radiyAllaho 3anh) said.

We ask Allaah to guide those sisters to that which pleases Him, and we advise you to convey this message well and not take part in that with them, and to be patient in bearing any problems that may result from that.

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A
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Misz_Muslimah
02-20-2010, 09:33 PM
^ Jazaakalahu khayran for sharing sis :)
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MMohammed
02-21-2010, 12:34 PM
JazakAllah.
In Pakistan, some people celebrate Prophet(S.A.W)'s birthday while others take it as a day of grief as Prophet Mohammed(S.A.W) as well passed away on this day(According to some texts).
I dont like overjoicing on this day
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AlbanianMuslim
02-23-2010, 11:37 PM
To Celebrate or not to Celebrate--That is the Question!
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by Asma bint Shameem

Some of us celebrate it with great devotion and diligence, while some of us are against it with an equally great vengeance. Some say it is our religious duty while others say it is nothing but bid'ah.

People argue about it. Families split up, friends forsake each other. And sometimes people literally fight over it and hurt one another.

So what is it that I am talking about?

I am talking about celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam), the Mawlid or Milad, as some of us say.

Yes, the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal came and went. But, ever wondered.... . what is the reality regarding the celebration of the birth of our beloved Prophet anyway?

Let's examine the facts.

First of all, whenever a Muslim is faced with a problem or confusing situation, what are we supposed to do? Allaah tells us:

“O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination” [Nisaa’:59]

Referring it to Allaah and His Messenger means to turn to Allaah's Book and the Sunnah of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam).

1. What does the Qur'aan say about the Mawlid?

Nothing. Yes that's right.....NOTHING. There is absolutely nothing in the Quraan that tells us to celebrate the birthday of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam). Not one single ayah.

You see, all acts of worship are tawqeefi which means that they are not subject to personal opinion and it is not permissible to do any acts of worship except those which are approved by Shareeah. So, for example, I cannot pick a special day or time, say the 22nd of every month, and start celebrating that day as a form of worship.

Why? Because there is nothing in the Shareeah that permits me to do that.

Also, I cannot start praying three rakaah for Fajr from tomorrow, even if I want to worship Allaah more, because Fajr Salah is only two rakaat as commanded upon us by the Shareeah. And similarly, if there is no order for us to celebrate the birthday of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam), then we dont. In fact, the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said: “Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Bukhaari).

Now someone might argue that we dont celebrate the Mawlid/Milad as an act of worship.

So let's see what other evidences we have.

2. What does the Sunnah say about it?

Again, there is nothing in the Sunnah of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) that shows us that the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) EVER celebrated his birthday or that of his wives, children, or Sahaabah.

There is not a single hadeeth that tells us that he (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) thought this day was significant enough to celebrate it.

Just think.....if there was any good in doing so, wouldnt he would have done so himself and wouldnt he have ordered the Sahaabah to do so?

And obviously, it is not possible that he (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) forgot to tell us about it, Aoodhu billaah!

Did the Sahaabah celebrate the Mawlid/Milad?

The Sahaabah were witnesses to the revelation of the Quraan.

They had the Prophet right in front of their eyes.

They ate, drank, sat, slept, talked, walked, lived with the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam).

If they misunderstood anything or were mistaken, the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) immediately corrected them. And thus, their understanding and practice of Islaam was the best.

Yet, when we look at the lives and practice of the Sahaabah, we find that none of them EVER celebrated the birth of their beloved Prophet, whether during his life or even after he passed away.

Not Abubakr, not Umar, not Uthman, not Ali, nor Aaishah, Ibn Umar, Ibn Masud, Talha, Az-Zubair, not a single Sahaabi.

Doesn't that prove anything?

The Sahaabah absolutely loved the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam). They gave up their homes, families, lives, everything they had... for his sake, in the blink of an eye. Yet this love did NOT promote them to celebrate his birth.

This love translated into the practical application of his teachings and NOT picking the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal as a day of celebration.

What about the Four Imaams and other Ulama?

Did any of the Imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? No. In fact, it was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries.

The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said: “The best of mankind are my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them. (Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi) .

And if the 'best of mankind' didnt celebrate his birth, then we shouldnt either.

Actually, the celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later. By this time, many of the features of true religion had disappeared and bid’ah had become widespread.

Think about it!

Can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the Imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of the importance of celebrating the birthday of the Prophet or that they were lacking in their love for him?

And it was only those who came later who were aware of it or loved him more?!!! How can that be?!!

Actually, dear brother/sister in Islaam, TRUE love of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) is shown and proven by following the guidance that he brought. So follow his Sunnah to the best of your ability and don't fall into innovated forms of worship. It is nothing but a trap of the Shaytaan.

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Aal ‘Imraan 3:31)

And remember the words of the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) when he said:

“The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation (bid'ah) is a going astray.”

(Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).
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north_malaysian
02-24-2010, 07:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by MMohammed
JazakAllah.
In Pakistan, some people celebrate Prophet(S.A.W)'s birthday while others take it as a day of grief as Prophet Mohammed(S.A.W) as well passed away on this day(According to some texts).
I dont like overjoicing on this day
i have Shia friends and they told me that they mark a day of grief of Prophet Muhammad's death on the 28th of Safar.
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Mr.President
02-24-2010, 11:23 AM
did abubakkar siddeek raliallahu anhu celebrate Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) Birthday ?

did umar bin kattab raliallahu anhu celebrate Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) Birthday ?

did usmaan raliallahu anhu celebrate Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) Birthday ?

or

did ali raliallahu anhu celebrate Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) Birthday ?


the four rightly guided kalifas also din celebrate so what makes some of us think that we are above Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) companions and do bidaa ?
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G3A3
02-24-2010, 11:39 AM
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We need to look at the issue of celebrating the Birthday of the beloved of Allah (SWT) i.e. Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) objectively and dispassionately as after all our goal is to please Allah (SWT) and follow the Sunnah.
First and foremost there is a huge disagreement between the Scholars about the exact date of birth of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) i.e. the commonly known date of 12th of Rabiul Awwal cannot be right because we can retro-construct the date based on two facts:
a) FACT ONE: We know that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was born on Monday
b) FACT TWO: We know that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was born in the month of Rabiul-Awwal
Working backwards from the date of death of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) in the year during which Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) the new moon of Rabiul-Awwal was born on Friday the 10th of April 571 at 20:56 AH so Rabiul-Awwal could have started on Saturday the 11th of April 571 OR Sunday the 12th of April 571 (as moon should have been easily sighted on Saturday). That means that there is NO WAY Monday could have been on the 12th of Rabiul-Awwal. Here is the rudimentary table for verification:
Sat 11 -
Sun 12 1
Mon 13 2
Tue 14 3
Wed 15 4
Thu 16 5
Fri 17 6
Sat 18 7
Sun 19 8
Mon 20 9
Tue 21 10
Wed 22 11
Thu 23 12
So Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) could have been born on the 1st, 2nd, 8th or 9th BUT no way on the 12th!
The reason I am presenting this issue is to highlight that IF celebrating the Birthday of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was indeed a Sunnah or a practise carried out in the Khairul-Quroon (the best of generation/era) by the Salaf then such a discrepancy would not have occurred i.e. they would have made sure that the date was known and no difference of opinion would have existed and the Scholars would have been united upon the matter.
But we know that:
a) Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) didn’t celebrate his Birthday
b) Sahaba (RA) didn’t celebrate his Birthday
c) Taba’een didn’t celebrate his Birthday
d) Taba-Taba’een didn’t celebrate his Birthday
e) No Authentic tradition exists in any Major Books of Hadeeth about this practise
f) No Reference exists in any of the earlier works of Fiqh and writings of the four Imams of Madhabs
In short, there is no precedence.
In no Hadeeth or Athar is there is a link of associating the fast of Monday to the Birthday of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam).
Poetry (Qasida Burda or others) has precedence and there were poems and words of praise written and read out during the lifetime of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and thereafter but celebrating of Birthday simply doesn’t exist.
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CosmicPathos
02-24-2010, 11:58 AM
I am sorry to say but Sister Muslim Woman has resorted to ad hominem attacks regarding other types of Bidah.

She was asked to refute the evidence which was eloquently presented by brotherubaid. She did not and instead changed the topic and brought in other things as examples of Bidah. This is not an honest way of seeking truth. I doubt brother ubaid celebrates his birthday yet Muslim Woman said that anti-mawlids celebrate their birthdays yet not of Prophet. This is emotional argumentation and has no place whatsoever in Islam.

If people are so desiring to celebrate the birthday of Prophet pbuh then why dont they mourn on the deathday of Prophet? Dont they feel pain of his departing from us? Or do they just want to feel happy and be festive and thus just celebrate his birthday?

Celebrating birthday of Prophet pbuh is just like celebrating the supposed birthday of Jesus on 25th December. Allahmadulilllah I do not want to be a part of this act and the evidence is clear cut for any rational person that having fun (even if its halal entertainment) on Mawlid is out of Islam.

And know that we dont celebrate our birthdays. people would send me "happy bday, have a blast" messages on facebook and I dont like them. I have hidden my birthday now. And you accused us of celebrating our birthday and not of Prophet pbuh. :(
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al Amaanah
02-24-2010, 02:37 PM
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jazaakomo Allaho khayr.

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brotherubaid
02-24-2010, 09:32 PM
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I dont' believe that Prophet pbuh visits them who recite darud .





I said , there is no verse or hadith that say we can't fast on 12 Rabiual Awal. if there is any bar against it , then pl. show .

Dear sister, May Allah bless you n reward u, im glad u came to this thread and i ask Allah to guide me n u and all the muslims to what is authentic n true n haqq n to save us from the batil , the false.

Sister the above way of istidlaal/reasoning is pretty strange , u say that we should fast on the 12th rabi al awwal coz there is notthing suggesting that we should NOT fast it, there is no bar against it , well InshahAllah i will show u why we should not fast it and also show u how ur reasoning is very wrong n strange.

Now lets see , in Islam do we do certain things because there is notthing to suggest that we should NOT do it or do we do them because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prescribed n legislatd n ordered us to do it.

We all believe n know that the deen was completed 1400 years ago and the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam delivered the message completely n with cmplete honestly n held notthing back

Like in the Beautiful ayaat .. ‘This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my
Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.’ [Soorah al-
Maidah (5):3]


n ahadeeth like ....
Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'There is nothing that will
take you closer to Paradise but that I have enjoined it upon you, and there is
nothing that will take you closer to Hell but that I have warned you from it.'
[Musnad ash-Shafa'ee]

So lets look at some random days which the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prescribed hs ummah to fast

1- the day of Arafah

Do we fast it sister because notthing proves we should NOT fast it or coz there is no bar against it OR do we fast it because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam 1)prescribed it fasting, 2) told us its reward 3) did it himself n his sahaba, 4) showed us to do it n taught us 5) legislated it???

we fast that day coz the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam told us to n told us its reward n legislated/prescribed it , as we have from many ahadeeth.


And lets look at the fast of Aashoorah .

do we fast it coz there is notthing to suggest WE SHOULDNT fast it n NO BAR against it OR do we fast it coz because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam 1)prescribed it fasting, 2) told us its reward 3) did it himself n his sahaba, 4) showed us to do it n taught us 5) legislated it???

we fast that day coz the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam tod dus to n told us its reward n legislated/prescribed it , as we have from many ahadeeth


this was just an example sister and i can go on and on and on .... sister please , when a day is singled out out of the year or month for ANY sort of Worship it has to have evidence from teh sunnah , n there is n evidence of mawlid n whatever people do in them even after 600 years of the passing away of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam.



format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
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In Bangladesh , most Muslims are Sunni ( and Not Sufis ) and we do celebrate Eid - e-Miladunnabi or Sirat un nabi.

People fast , recite Quran , give charity , arrange dua mahfil , some sing Hamd and Naat , discuss about the life of the Prophet pbuh and offer extra salat / nafal prayer .
[QUOTE=Muslim Woman;1291385]:sl:

Dear sister , everyone claims to be sunni , but only a deep research in the creed aqeedah n manhaj shows who is sunni, n well trust me no sufi is ever willing to admit he is sufi, but lets leave it alone n focus on meelad un nabi issue.

Firsr of all it was never a part of islaam , the best generations n those who loved n knew the Prphet n religion n quran n sunnah more than us never celebrated it so how could we?


U said sister may Allah reward u that people

1) Fast

i have already above refutted that the day cannot be singled out for fasting n please dont say that the prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam fasted his birthday coz that refers to monday and theer is no evidence he fasted on the 12th to mark his birthday , rather the day itself which was a monday , so u cannt use this evidence to support smething else , many innovators do this , they bring the evidence for eample beating the duff and then conclue all instrument are legale , n play them on graves n festivals on graves n on mawlids n men wear silk n dance n every little thing that the Prphet sala lahu alihi wa sallam forbade , they legalize it by twisting and turning the evidence ,,, what a grave sin , may Allah have us.


n well let me go back to the beginning of ur post sister where u suggested another name of the mawlid to make it more acceptable u said

"celebrate Eid - e-Miladunnabi or Sirat un nabi."

coz if we say we are celebrating the seerah of nabi then people cannot oppose

I say

FIRST
You are NOT celebrating the seerah of nabi , in fact u are doing something that is not found ANYWHEER in the seerah of nabi, subhaALLAH! So is this how the seerah celebrated , by doing something the prophet never did? great!

SECOND
The seerah of nabi sala lahu alihi wa sallam is not to be celebrated by the things that he FORBADE

Like music
silk for men
mixing of men n women
STANDING UP TO HONOR THE PROPHET WHILE RECITING NAAT ( He didnt allow it(standing up for him in respect or honor) in his life n u guys do it now after he passed away?)

n doing other bidhas that have no evidence from sunnah like mahfil of zikr , mahfl of darood n remmberance n naat n hamd in mosques....

How do u celebrate something with something forbidden

n well

Seerah is celebrated by the REAL sunni muslim each n ever second

He makes his face , his dress , his ikhlaaq n manners , his sight n gaze , his actions n limbs according to the guidance of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam. He lives each and ever moment n each n every hour n day n week n month n all his life in accordance to the sunnah , trying to implement it n adheer to it n hold on to it. So by protecting his gaze he is celebrating seerah , by avoiding music he is celebrating sunnah , by his dress n his apperance , by his day to day manners n dealing n on and on and on

NOT JUST ON A PARTICULAR DAY OR EVENING !!

N NO ITS NOT A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE YOUTH N TEACH THE YOUTH ABOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET , each n everyday this should be done , Just coz we cannot raise kids n we dont even know religion ourselfes we cannot teach it to our kids either we come up with these little excuses n events to cover up for something that is so vital n important , the education of sunnah n seerah , we just do it on this day n think our responsibility is over???



back to the post sister u said People fast , recite Quran , give charity , arrange dua mahfil , some sing Hamd and Naat , discuss about the life of the Prophet pbuh and offer extra salat / nafal prayer



so sister people recite quran on that day n leave ot almost the rest f the year untill ramadan comes in or night of qadr of 15th shaabaan ( which is also bidah) ?? sister cant u see what it is doing?? look at the big picture... we are seting standards n examples for those who will come after us , when we single out these days fr worship people take these days fr worship n neglect the rest of the year n still think they are doing a great job,

This is the problem with innovatiing thinsg in the religion , it has effects n with time it reallly does turn into something else , n well most importantly no one guards it , what i mean is people open the door for lets say celebrating the mawlid , but no one stands guard on this door to regulate whats to be done n whats not to be done , no one watches over it n time n years pass by n it turns into something else , this is exactly why each n every door of innovatin should not only be closed it should be educated against n refuted

This is exactly why now we have soo many shirk n innovations n crazy things in the eid meelad un nabi , n this is exactky why its sooo hard for people to accept the fact that it is a bidah n its bad , coz it has become a part of their lifes n deen.



U said give charity , duaa mahfil , hamd naat , life of prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam , extra salat n nawafil ...


The pious precedors did not do any of that , were they not more knowledgable than us , n well soem of those are Haram n even sahaba disapproved it like duaa mahfil or zikr n remmberance mahfils .. how??

well here is a link , please please do check it
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=46 sahabas attitude towards innovation ( congregational zikr) nice naration of the sahaba. u will be surprised to see the same things happen in our masajid!!



sister
"Whoever introduces into our matter (religion) that which is not a part of it, will have it (his innovation) rejected."
Related by Al-Bukhari & Muslim

sister all those will be rejected if they are singled out for a particular day , n well hamd n naat will be rejected cz it was not prescribed , never!

sister , please please i will suggest u again to go back to the first page of this thread n read the dialogue between al albani Rahimahullah and the one who approves of mawlid , it is very nice n detailed n full of benefits like ayaat n ahadeeth , and sister may Allah guide us n u to the truth ... cant u see how hard it is to leave the bidah ? coz the shaytaan keeps peoples hearts attached to it , coz the innovator is never blessed with repentence , coz he dosent think he is doing something wrong , he thinks teh opposite.


Any way , this thread already has enough evidence for those who want the truth , and may Allah open our hearts to the Sunnah , the beautiful way of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam n his sahaba ..


Sister one last thing

the deen is not our opinins , its nt up to our brains n intellect , rather its quran n sunnah n narations , its what is proved , Opinions do not mean anything when it comes to deen , always always traceback the ladders of hadeeth n quran to see if something is right or worng or even from the deen.

Allah sent the deen till the day of qiyamah , Allah knew there would be a 2010 n 2009 , He did not Allow us to come up with new ways n new philosiphies , to teach the deen , or to practise the deen , rather it is follwoing what was deen at the time of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam , n what was not has no place today.

n i warn my self n everyone else to always try to be from the saved sect

WHO ARE THE SAVED SECT?

well apparently everyone is claiming to be , doesnt it get confusing?? no ! coz the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam left us on a clear white plain

As the Prophet Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa sallam said, "I have left you on a clear white plain, whose day is like its night. Anyone who deviates from it is destroyed."

n he told us clearly who the saved sect out of the 73 will be

He sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam also said:

"Indeed, the people of the Book before you split-up into seventy-two sects. And this nation will split-up into seventy-three sects, seventy two are in the Fire and one is in Paradise. It was asked: Who is that one? He replied: "That which I and my Companions are upon

Dear sister , were they upon eid millad un nabi , n fasting n charity n mafhil duaa n mahfil zikr n hamd n naat n all that u mentioned?? if nt then be careful , u dont wana be from the 72 sects sister, while abandoning mawlid clearly saves u from that n drives u to what the prophet n sahaba were upon.


sister
The Prophet sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam said:

"I advise you to have taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and to obey, even if an Abyssinian slave becomes your leader. Those of you who live long after me will see a lot of differences, so hold fast to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Khaleefahs after me. Cling to it tightly and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and all misguidance is in the Fire."


sister
Ibn Mas'ood - radi-Allaahu 'anhu - said:

Allaah's Messenger sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam drew a line for us and then said: "This is Allaah's Path." Then he drew lines to its right and its left, and said: "These are differing paths, upon each of them there is a shaytaan (devil) calling to it." Then he recited: "And verily this is My Path, so follow it, and do not follow other paths for they will separate you away from His Path." [Soorah al-An'aam (6):153] [4]

be careful of these other paths , n follow what the companions were upon

n be careful of the groups that call to these newly invented things

This is deen

this is upon which our hereafte depends

this is serious


I have said what i have said , if right then from Allah n by the grace of Allah , if wrong then from my self n shaytaan , n i seek Allah's forgiveness , Indeed He is the Most forgiving n He knows best

Assalam O Alikum
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Salahudeen
02-24-2010, 10:38 PM
very comprehensive answer from brother ubaid. When will the majority turn to the way of the the prophet peace be upon him and the sahabba :(
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Muslim Woman
02-25-2010, 03:39 AM
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format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist
... I doubt brother ubaid celebrates his birthday yet Muslim Woman said that anti-mawlids celebrate their birthdays yet not of Prophet.

i personally did not attack anyone . In that article , the author expressed his frustration that when celebrating birthday , marriage anniversary , taking interest etc etc are common among Muslims , some / many people raise questions against Eid e Milad un nabi.

If it creates any doubt that I personally attacked any bro /sis here ,then I am sorry.

I hope , at least I am allowed to offer some darud on 12 th Rabiul Awal ?
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ardianto
02-25-2010, 09:06 AM
Mawlid event in the masjid near my home is giving charities to the orphans.

My question : Am I allowed to give charity to the orphans in this event ?.
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
02-25-2010, 03:20 PM
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The time of this thread has come to an end. I close the thread with this most excellent piece written by Shaykh Abu Eesa Niamatullah. Both sides of the debate, please read and reflect, as he says in the article it's to "remind ourselves exactly what this debate is all really about."
The Messenger Was Born

At a time when many Muslims will be debating the definitions of bid‘ah and the condemnation of people based upon whether they don’t celebrate the ‘Eed Milād’l-Nabi or do, where some will find excuse to mix and party and others will find reason to have a quiet reflective moment, perhaps it would be pertinent to remind ourselves exactly what this debate is all really about.

The blessed Prophet and Messenger Sayyidina Muhammad (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) was understood to have been born in the early half of the current month Rabī’l-Awwal in the year 570 or 571 CE. There is not a single piece of evidence that categorically establishes the exact date of birth and indeed this was never an issue for the early scholars due to their lack of celebrating the particular birthday of the Prophet (‘alayhi-salātullāh). As one of my teachers used to say, “Why do people find this strange? I was born in the 20th Century and my family still have no idea when I was born, not even the year!”

What is known for sure though is that the Prophet (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) was born on a Monday and is indeed perhaps one of the reasons he fasted on a Monday as he (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) stated and as collected in Sahīh Muslim. We likewise fast on Mondays in celebration of his Sunnah.

Yet within the discussion surrounding the birth of the Prophet, many people don’t get further than either the fact that we simply fast on a Monday as a result of it or on the other side, hold celebratory functions in which devotional songs are recited. Perhaps both parties would do well to not miss the wood for the trees and reflect upon an individual who simply cannot be reduced to a Mawlid gathering or a chain email warning of deathly innovation.

Thus let us start and look at who then was born that great day!

The Description of the Prophet (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam)

Physically speaking, the Prophet Muhammad (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) was the most handsome of people. He was of medium height, not too tall and not too short, of medium build, of white going slightly red-brown skin colour, with a completely full head of shiny black slightly curly hair that would reach to his shoulders at its longest, hair which was sometimes dyed slightly red and/or yellow, a taut neck, an extended black thick beard with a few white hairs, firm un-raised cheeks, a fine slender nose, wide white eyes with a slight reddish tinge with strikingly black pupils, a flat chest and stomach, well-statured, thick heavy hands with slightly long fingers, very soft palms, smooth large feet, no excess fat or flesh on the heels, and a gait of one leaning slightly forward when he walked. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He had a large back, broad shoulders, in between which slightly to the left one could see the Seal of Prophethood – a slightly raised piece of skin with a small grouping of hair. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

When he met people, he would turn his whole body to meet them. He was the first to greet people, having a wide smile, with a face that was immersed in blessed light that shone and radiated like a bright moon. He had a firm handshake which he would not let go of until the other person let go yet at the same time was so gentle that if a small girl was to take his hand and lead him around the town, he would follow in tow. It was difficult for people to compose themselves in his presence due to the sheer awe of his countenance and the shock of how handsome he was. His gravitas and presence was such that despite his medium height, he seemed taller than those surrounding him. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He would love to wear cotton shirts, some similar to a thawb, short and long but never below the ankles, sometimes short-sleeved so that one could see his white clean arm-pits and sometimes long to his wrists. He disliked woollen garments except for the occasional use of a woollen over-garment, mostly white yet sometimes colourful garments particularly striped, sometimes red-striped, but never wore anything saffron in colour. He would wear a turban, sometimes a two-piece outfit with a sarong type lower garment, and would accept and wear the clothes of foreigners given to him as a gift. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

The Demeanour of the Prophet (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam)

He was always cheerful, of mild temperament and easy going, yet at the same time reflective and would spend much of his time looking down at the ground in contemplation. When he spoke, those sitting around him were so still that it seemed that birds were perched on their heads. When he fell silent, they talked but never argued in his presence. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He was neither rude nor coarse and did not shout or utter obscenities. His did not find fault with others nor lavishly praise them. He did not interrupt another’s speech. He would interact with those who sat with him in the best of ways: he would never frown at them, treat them harshly or turn away from them, he would not point out slips of the tongue nor reprimand one for any coarseness in speech or the likes, and he would make excuses for them as much as possible. Whoever mixed with him would think that he was the most beloved person to him due to the attention he received, his kindness and the sincere advice he was given. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He would honour the leader of every people and put them in charge of their affairs. He would show respect to the people of nobility and excellence and he would divide his time amongst them in accordance to their religiosity, yet there wasn’t a soul who felt they were not able to approach him due to his humility and welcoming nature. He gave everyone who sat with him his due share such that none thought that another was more honoured than he. If any person sat with him or near him to ask of him, he was tolerant and remained so until that person himself turned away. When someone asked him for something he needed, he either departed with it or with some consoling words. He had the kindest and best behaviour of all people, being like a father to them. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He was easy going, soft, close to people, he answered the calls of those who called him, judged those who required judgment, fulfilled the need of those who asked of him – never preventing them from asking him and never letting them go disappointed or empty handed. When his Companions desired a matter from him, he would agree with them and follow them; if he determined to do something, he would consult them. He would accept their good from them and overlook their mistakes. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

He was the most truthful of people, the most honourable. The people of the earth fought him, employing all means at their disposal yet none of them ever accused him of lying. His friends and foes alike would not describe him except as the most gentle, generous and empowering individual to walk the face of the Earth. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

His generosity did not come about through effort, neither was it hard upon him, rather it naturally arose due to the purity of his soul and gentleness of spirit. He had the most giving of hearts by virtue of the righteousness of his spirit and the great good contained therein. Kindness would pour out of his heart for it was enveloped in every beautiful moral and in every excellence.

It is sufficient to end with the fact that the very greatest and noblest of people would all say about the Prophet Muhammad, “I have never seen anyone, before him or after him, who was comparable to him.” May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

The Right of the Prophet (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam)

Allah jalla wa ‘alā sent him as a Prophet and a Messenger to the entirety of the worlds of Jinn and Man. He was sent as nothing but a Mercy to these worlds, one blessed with wisdom and guidance, with a criterion to establish right from wrong, truth from falsehood, and to bring the people from darkness into light.

He was sent as a favour to mankind, and was sent to be followed. He was sent to be emulated and loved, to become more beloved to us than our parents and our children, even more than our own souls. It is in his cause that we are asked to sacrifice throughout our life for, and it is through his praise that we will attain the true success in this world and the Hereafter, by ultimately achieving the love of the Divine Himself.

It is his Sunnah that we study, revise, memorise and implement. We then internalise it, promote it, then teach it, defend it, protect it and die for it. At this moment then, let us revive his Sunnah by not indulging in actions contrary to it, but by reflecting on the magnificence of the one who came with it and his attempts to keep the people straight upon its path. Let us reflect upon the actions of those supreme Companions whom Allah Himself is Happy with, and the way that acted upon this Sunnah and the way they remembered their guide and master and celebrated his coming.

The Messenger was born and the world became illuminated as a result of that birth. Let us celebrate, not on the 8th, not on the 12th, not this month, and not even this year, but rather every single living moment of our lives as we now start to realise that we have been blessed beyond our wildest imagination to have even known of this great man: our master and leader, Sayyidina Muhammad. May Allah jalla wa ‘alā bless and bestow peace upon him.

* All of the above is based upon authentic narrations. Please see the “Commentary to the Shamā’il al-Muhammadiyyah”, Refi Shafi, Sunnah Publications, exp. release end of 2010 insha’Allāh for further information

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Muhammad
02-27-2010, 11:52 AM
Another resource to look at:

http://streetdawa.com/content/detail...phets-birthday


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